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Old 06-15-2008, 04:36 PM   #1
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pump up them tires!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok so i am going to start this thread to show, hopefully, a good detailed build up of turning your a/c compressor into a good reliable air compressor!
i haven't checked for any writeups on this forum so maybe this will be good, anyways.

things your going to need for a basic setup ( no tank )

1. air filter ( a little k&n will do just any little air filter )
2. in-dash electric switch, double pole single throw?
3. air pressure regulater
4. air manifold
5. air pressure gauge
6. t-fitting
7. high pressure air hose.
i'm in thee process of building so i will post pics and write up the problems ( if any) i run into.

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cool just what i want to see my 99 tj doesn't have ac so I want to pick up a compressor and do this.

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Lots of pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
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i've got my original compressor for 87 and the 95 engine came with one to, i wanna see how good this works.
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$5 foot pump from Walmart
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$5 foot pump from Walmart
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hey 80 pounds adn throwin a tire back on bead locks is a hell of alot better than a foot pump, trying to spoil my fun....i bet i can do this for less than 50 doll hairs...wall mart sucks anyway
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one concern here that, if i understand right is that, the refrigerant also lubricates the
compressor, so to remidy this, i think you can buy a special lube or possibly just some good old 30 weight...i honesly don't know so thus far i am going to do some research on what kind of oil to use and how often! maybe just have to do it when you clean the filter, i'll take some pics of the filter i am going to use and the parts once they are all aquired, remember this is a budget build like everything else, so taking time to find the parts is what its all about, i would say by friday it will be complete.
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Sweet build. Someday I might do this, or maybe just get a York OBA. The A/C compressor uses PAG oil for lubricant. Do you know what kind of PSI you can get out of an A/C compressor?
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as a matter of fact yes 80 psi at 1500 rpm's or 40 at idle, i talked to someone who had heard of it...tehy gave me some facts, but i will give you deffinate when i do it,
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alright tomorrow i am going to buy all my parts, harbor freight, air pressure regulator is 6.99 as a matter of fact so is the air manifold with quick disconnects it has three, and the pressure gauge is like 4 bucks, all the plumbing should be under 2 dollars a foot, so not much there, and i have enlisted a friend form advanced auto parts, so discount on my cool rocket launcher switch, also gonna use an 8 gallon tank, gonna mount it somewhere under the hood, don't know how much thats gonna cost, but its used so who knows, i'll post the receipt tomorrow!!!

also thanks for the fluid info coyote !!!
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Ck this thread a few pics of mine can be found there.
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The old style yorks are the best choice for this, they actually have kind of an oil pan, the oil is not part of and mixed in with the refrigerant. They are generally a bigger compressor though.
Those who build low riders though have a good selection of air tanks made for mounting along the frame rails in a variety of different sizes and shapes. I've also seen bumpers turned into air tanks, 6" diameter tube, holds like 4-5 gallons.
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Make sure you have some type of pressure safety release device or switch. I had a shop convert my old R-12 system on my Bronco and this guy F'd something up big time. My wife pulled into the school parking lot after a real hot day and the condenser literally exploded like a grenade. Turned out he forgot to change the high pressure shutoff switch.

There was shrapnel and parts everywhere in the engine bay. Those compressors really pump up so be careful.
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so whats the lubrication solution on a stock a/c compressor from a yj. i have an 87, and 95 compressor, but they're lubricated with the pag oil in the freon.

i'm definately doing this.
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so whats the lubrication solution on a stock a/c compressor from a yj. i have an 87, and 95 compressor, but they're lubricated with the pag oil in the freon.

i'm definately doing this.
I *think* you need to put an inline dryer in there and refill the oil. There is a lot of information about it on the net, I don't think you are limited to PAG oil either. I just never gave it much attention other than 'hmmmm, thats interesting'.
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All you have to do is put an inline oil tool oiler in and keep oil in it.It pretty simple to do.
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hey billg i like your setup very clean and clever i am doing mine this thursday
i just don't know how i want to route everyhting but there will be plenty of pics of the installation and a hopefully good writeup for anyone who wants to do this, but
what is an "inline oil tool oiler" i was told every so often after heavy use of the compressor to just put some oil in the intake when its on, can i get this "tool" at harbor frieght
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hey billg i like your setup very clean and clever i am doing mine this thursday
i just don't know how i want to route everyhting but there will be plenty of pics of the installation and a hopefully good writeup for anyone who wants to do this, but
what is an "inline oil tool oiler" i was told every so often after heavy use of the compressor to just put some oil in the intake when its on, can i get this "tool" at harbor frieght
An in line oiler is normally used to supply oil to air powered tools like impact wrenches, etc. You really don't want to be filling your tires with a mix of oiled air I'm thinking. Now if you put the inline oiler on the intake side of the compressor and an oil remover or dryer on the output side that would work. I normally use a few drops of oil on the air tools connector before I plug the air hose in, the oiler eliminates this need BUT if you fill tires or use say a spray gun you normally want clean no oil or water or moisture in that air.
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There is not enough oil coming out to worry about but you could put a oil seperator on the outlet side.
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yeh i just went and looked at all the pneumatics at harbor frieght so i am thinking i am going to run an oil seporator on the outlet side anyway i jsut bought my three way manifold and my pressure releif valve, so that came to like 11 bucks!!!!!!! and all the hoses and what not won't amount to 20 bucks for the whole jeep, so i am lookin at like 30 40 bucks for this, awesome. the air pressure regulator i bought goes to 160 so i hope that is enough, i saw more expensive ones at northern and they were more along the lines of 1080 psi and cost roughly 15 bucks so i think 160 will be fine! now all i need is my hoses and my filters and i am set, ohh yeah and my switch, i am putting in a flip, trigger switch with a light.. cool shit huh! well anyway thursday is the build date, but if i get my camera working i will start takin some pics of teh parts
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billg i am only finding a pressure switch at northern tool, for 37 bucks, is the one you used special in anyway, settings different, auto setting etc. i would like to find one a little cheaper and local, but i will take what i can get. thanks for all the info!!!
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ok so the idea is to have the plumbing go as so,

start with the compressor it has an intake and an output, and 2 wires coming from it to activate the clutch. on the intake attach a short hose and put on a small breather filter.
on the output i have a hose running to the side fender, where a air pressure switch it mounted, the air pressure switch is set to turn on at 80psi ( on auto) and turn off at 150. from there a hose attaches to a 3 way manifold. from the three way i have my tank connected and a t fitting on that, witch runs to a quick disconnect for air tools.
on the second port on the manifold i have a hose running out the grill to a quick dissconnct for an air hose. and on the third manifold port i have a pressure release valve set to 200psi, i have heard stories of these things building up monster pressure and blowing up like granades, a pressure switch is an absolute must.

i will have pictures posted thursday or friday, as i am building this thursday, everything has been planned out and parts have been purchased, just need to find a place for my tank. so lots of pics and of course all the info on rpms and what pressure is being made and final cost of my budget on board compressor.
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I run a 2 1/2 gallon tank on mine.My pressure switch comes on at 110 and off at 150 psi.
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ok, so today i finished it, i will post pics this weekend, took about 3 hours. there was alot more plumbing stuff required for a right setup but the extra doll hairs were worth it!!!

stuff actually used for the job

25 feet of hose
air pressure switch
2 1/2 gallon air tank
inline check valve
lots of fittings
hose clamps
t-fitting
200psi safety valve
3 way air manifold
air pressure regulator
toggle switch
air filter
a friend to help!!!

the way its setup you need to keep at least 4 inches of origional plumbing off of the air
compressor, on the intake tube just plop your air filter on, i used a k&n from advanced, went on well, on the output line run hose over to the fender and into the air manifold, from there have a line going to your tank ( mine is in the rear right infront of the tailgate)
and a line going to your air pressure switch, i have mine set to cut on at 90 psi and off at 120, gonna change it to 150 though. i have the last port blocked right now, but i am goign to run it into a quick dissconect on the front of the jeep for fast air. have a check valve right before the manifold so you don't kill your compressor and lose air once its off.
the tank has the t-fitting and 200 psi blow off on it, and on the output side is an airpressure regulator and a quick disconnect for air tools. basically it is a really cool thing to have on your jeep if you have a compressor and don't use it, good trail tool , and hell it just cool period, hopefully when i get pics the picture will be a little more clear, but hope this helps anyone who want to do it. i spent roughly 70 dollars running around and scavengin parts.
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4.0 sahara, well all i have to say is....money trap, i support the industry, but listen, you put an inline oiler in the front of the intake, and an oil seperator at the output, just like for some air tools. route the waste from the seperator back into the inline filler!!!!!! don't just take to heart what a company says, who is trying to get you to spend your money on there product, it works fine, read up on what other people have done. don't do it if you don't want to, mine works fine thus far and it will get good trail use this weekend.
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4.0 sahara, well all i have to say is....money trap, i support the industry, but listen, you put an inline oiler in the front of the intake, and an oil seperator at the output, just like for some air tools. route the waste from the seperator back into the inline filler!!!!!! don't just take to heart what a company says, who is trying to get you to spend your money on there product, it works fine, read up on what other people have done. don't do it if you don't want to, mine works fine thus far and it will get good trail use this weekend.
I thought it was weird they wanted all the fancy oilers and oil separators.
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yeah it seems rediculouse in my opinion, they act like it gets used for hours and hours every day...only then maybe would i consider some fancy high dollar filter and oiler, but dude you use it for maybe an hour every weekend. i don't know whatever works. if you build yours for 180 dollars your still gettin it way cheaper than a big factory setup.
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the pics i promised

here are some pictures. its all pretty easy to understand how it works.the piece with the blue top directly out of the compressor behind the fuse pannel is the air /oil seporator. i stongly suggest this as you don't won't oil all over you and your tires!!!!!
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