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Old 08-12-2009, 08:06 PM   #1
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Questions about buying a used TJ

Hello all.

I am in the market for a car, and now is probably the right time for me to go for that Jeep I've always wanted.

I would like to go see a 2005 Wrangler X that has a 4" suspension lift (Rough Rider) and 33 inch tires. The seller says this has been professionally installed.

I am wondering if there is anything I need to know or be on the lookout for regarding the lift and the tires.

I would also appreciate any additional information that might be useful to me. I don't know anything about Jeeps and I just want to do my due diligence.

Thank you in advance.

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Old 08-12-2009, 09:03 PM   #2
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I have never heard of Rough rider suspensions.. did he mean rough county?

as for what to look for.

suspension wise.. it is a spring lift or body lift or a combo of the two?

Does it have factory control arms or stock stamped arms?

any pic's of this jeep you can post?

Check the oil and tranny fluid if you can, check the ac and heater controls
check for rust and damage to the underside of the jeep, skid plates etc.. evidence it was abused offroad

Run the vin number and make sure its not a flood jeep, or was in a wreck.

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Old 08-13-2009, 03:44 AM   #3
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Do you mean rough country?
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:02 AM   #4
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Yes, sorry, I meant Rough Country.

Here is a link to the ad:

Jeep : Wrangler:eBay Motors (item 250478748935 end time Aug-13-09 11:43:49 PDT)

I don't know any more info right now. I am hoping to look at this tomorrow or over the weekend.

To me it just seems like it is priced to sell and I am a little bit leery.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:12 AM   #5
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Yes, sorry, I meant Rough Country.

Here is a link to the ad:

Jeep : Wrangler:eBay Motors (item 250478748935 end time Aug-13-09 11:43:49 PDT)

I don't know any more info right now. I am hoping to look at this tomorrow or over the weekend.

To me it just seems like it is priced to sell and I am a little bit leery.
Oops the listing is closed now...
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:38 AM   #6
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Oops the listing is closed now...
Strange. It is still listed. Try this link instead:

Jeep : Wrangler:eBay Motors (item 250478748935 end time Aug-13-09 11:43:49 PDT)

It is an '05 Jeep X out of Milford, MI.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:57 AM   #7
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Anybody notice the two steering stabilizers on the front of the jeep? There should only be a need for one. It does look good though.

I'm gonna guess it only has a Dana 35 which isn't bad for now, but it is when you decide it's time to go bigger.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:17 AM   #8
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You might want to check you state inspection codes because if it is like Mass, it wont pass with the tires sticking out further than the fenders. Would have to purchase wider fenders for it which isn't a big deal but just a pain if you want to get out on the road right after purchasing it. Over all it looks nice though. Good luck!
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:21 PM   #9
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I just spoke with the seller in order to schedule a look at the vehicle. He said he bought it two weeks ago. (He failed to mention this during our first conversation.) He said he bought it and his wife flipped out.

I am definitely going to pull out a carfax on this.
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Its a very clean looking jeep. What is the asking price? Be forewarned the RC kits shocks will ride rough. There are other issues with the lift but they are not deal breakers if the price is right.
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$14,500 and he sounds willing to negotiate.

2005, 40,000 miles
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:04 PM   #12
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Its a very clean looking jeep. What is the asking price? Be forewarned the RC kits shocks will ride rough. There are other issues with the lift but they are not deal breakers if the price is right.
Wow, for a Jeep fan to admit it is a rough ride, then it must be considerable.

Well, I am aware that you don't buy a Jeep for comfort.

I also have a very short commute.

It would have to be BRUTAL to deter me.

The Autocheck came back clean.
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There are other issues with the lift but they are not deal breakers if the price is right.
4Point, can you elaborate on this?

If I like the Jeep I think I want to take it to a mechanic to have it checked out. Is this something that a Jeep dealer can do or do I need to see someone else?
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make sure its got longer brake hoses
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:58 AM   #15
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Well I saw that Jeep on Friday and I would not buy it. Just too many questions.

It was pretty cool though. It was BIG. Much bigger than than it looks in the pictures, but I guess I just did not know what to expect. I almost tweaked a hammy trying to get into the thing, it was so high up. I am kidding a little, but in all seriousness, there is no way I'd be able to get my mother into that. Just too high up for her.

I didn't think the ride was all that rough, but on the highway it felt like it was all over the lane. I don't know if that was the suspension lift or just the way Wranglers drive, but I just didn't feel really good about it.

And did I mention that the guy just bought the thing two weeks ago and already wants to sell it?

Yeah, no way I would buy the thing.

I have a vehicle that is an eligible Cash for Clunker trade in. My top advisers are STRONGLY pushing me to use that. I test drove a VW Jetta and a Ford Fusion. The Fusion was a very nice car and the total cost to finance would be just over $17K. But I don't know, I just feel like I would be buying something that a guy with a wife and two kids is supposed to drive. And I am single.

Oh well, I am in full blown research mode right now. I'll keep you all posted in case anyone cares.
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Old 08-16-2009, 01:33 PM   #16
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Best advice is find something stock or semi stock that you can build to your likes and not buy someone elses dream jeep. I personally don't want one lifted so high that you have to climb a rope to get into like my cousins bronco back in the day.

You seem to be torn between the cash for clunkers program and a Jeep. Why not pay cash for a cheap jeep you can have fun with AND get a fuel efficient vehicle for driving to work. Once I find some work I'm going to be putting money aside for a civic or something for driving to work and college because I live a hour from everything. =P
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my opinion is to find the newest unmodded
tj / lj that you can find. then you can build
it to what YOU want. i would never buy a
used, modded, anything. good luck

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