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Old 09-13-2010, 02:14 PM   #1
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Rubicon and X big differences?

I searched, found nothing.

Is there really a big difference in the two styles? My jeep will be my daily driver, but I don't want to be afraid to leave the pavement either. If the X is as capable as a Rubicon offroad, I don't see why I shouldnt go X. And looking at 2010s, $7,600 is a big stretch.

So why? Are Rubicons easier to customize? What is it that makes a Rubicon better than an X?

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Bigger/better tires, more protection underneath, tougher axels, etc. etc.... if it will mostly be your daily driver I say stick with the X and use that money to do what you want to it. You may find in a year or so you want to do a lot more off-roading, if so then begin to build your own rubicon of sorts. The X is still very capable off road.

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I bought the rubicon because It has stronger axles. that was nice to have the peace of mind when wheeling. But if youre looking to buy new youre going to pay alot more for the rubi (I bought an 03 which was about 1000 more than the base model jeeps in my area)


7000 is alot to pay for it. If youre buying new I would say buy the X and save some money. then if you need something later down the road add it
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Rubicon has locking diffs and lower t-case gearing and dana 44 front and rear. To do that after market your looking at about 5-6k, and it has lower 4.11 gears. To answer your questions a stock x will not or rather is not going to take you places a rubicon could take you. That being said, buy what you like and fits your budget. You can always add stuff to your jeep.
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Not to be rude, but asking that question makes me wonder how much off-road experience you have. If you're new to off-road driving, you might want to do some reading on Jeep's web site about the Rubicon. Learn about lockers and why people want / need them.

Ultimately, the X is probably the right one for you and if it's your DD with only occasional off-road use there's really no need to go all Rubicon on it ... unless you just like making people jealous
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What are your future plans for your Jeep? If you want a full-on badass, go with the X. No reason to pay extra for a Rubi if you're going to put 1-ton full-width axles, an Atlas TC, etc, underneath.........However, if you're looking for a very capable rig without going too crazy, a Rubi is the way to go.
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No offroad experience, but now's as good as any to start. I want to do a lot of customizing. New bumpers, winch, big-ass tires, a lift, ect. I just dont see why I should get a Rubicon if Im gonna be doing all this, and I wanted your opinions.

I probably wont be climbing rocks or any other crazy(as in, totally freaking awesome) stuff.
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maybe not lifted as high as this one and not as bigo' tires, but you get the point.
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^^^^YJs didn't come as an "X" model or a Rubicon, why are you showing him pics of a YJ? I'm pretty sure he's wanting a JK, judging by his OP.
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Its funny to read these things sometimes. I have to laugh. To the original poster. Go with the X save about 8k. 90% of the people who buy Rubis will NEVER use them to thier full capabililty and most likely dont even have the skill set to do so. Besides yes the Rubi has lockers (electronic). id rather have an air locker personally MUCH better locker. Anyone care to dispute that? I doubt it very much. Go with the X. Add as you go save lots of money.
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^^^^YJs didn't come as an "X" model or a Rubicon, why are you showing him pics of a YJ? I'm pretty sure he's wanting a JK, judging by his OP.
I know that >.<

I was showing you the front bumper, winch, tires and lift.
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No offroad experience, but now's as good as any to start. I want to do a lot of customizing. New bumpers, winch, big-ass tires, a lift, ect. I just dont see why I should get a Rubicon if Im gonna be doing all this, and I wanted your opinions.

I probably wont be climbing rocks or any other crazy(as in, totally freaking awesome) stuff.
Ya know Paul, you may not THINK you will, but once you get a taste for it if you don't get a Rubi, you'll wish you had.

Five years ago, I couldn't have told you the difference. NOW, after seeing and doing so much more than I ever imagined, I am really glad that I bought a Rubi.

If it's in your budget, get the best, get a Rubi.
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Kate youve got good advice Im sure glad I did buy a rubi 03 over an 06lj , but it was only a 1000 extra. OP youve got to judge whether its wroth the extra 7k. Perhaps you can buy an 07 rubi for cheaper then the 10 x, Whats going to be the dif? some one elses ass was in the seat for 2 years and what 20-30k miles?
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Its funny to read these things sometimes. I have to laugh. To the original poster. Go with the X save about 8k. 90% of the people who buy Rubis will NEVER use them to thier full capabililty and most likely dont even have the skill set to do so. Besides yes the Rubi has lockers (electronic). id rather have an air locker personally MUCH better locker. Anyone care to dispute that? I doubt it very much. Go with the X. Add as you go save lots of money.

Word I have an x/sport its my 3rd one and I love them, most of the people you see with one have no idea how to drive it off road. You can build a X/sport to be the same, and some times better than a rubi. at least your not paying 7-9 k more then start chucking parts off for after market stuff. Its really what you feel you would like and how much time and money you want to out in to it. just my to cents.
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... well.. run on out there and save a few grand at purchase.

See how thrilled you are when you find that you wish you had lockers and a 4:1 transfer case and then start paying to install them. My perspective is that if you get the vehicle equipped like that from the factory it's A) covered by warranty and B) a minor difference in your payment as opposed to having to shell out a big lump for big mods.

Maybe people start out not having any idea how to drive it on the trail, but dang... learning is half the fun.
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Maybe people start out not having any idea how to drive it on the trail, but dang... learning is half the fun.
Couldnt agree more.... Learnin to drive my jeep was part of the fun... Still learning.. Still enjoying...

I got myself a sahara n had the dealer switch the tires off a rubicon... Didnt get the electronic locker, or heavy duty front axle, but for the off roading that i do here in florida, its plenty...
I wanted a rubicon originally, but fell in love with the luxuries of the sahara... Look into the sahara, it still has the rubicon suspension, which is what i bought it for.. I dont plan on lifting it because its my DD... Whatever you do, make sure ur jeep is "Trail Rated".... Its very helpful in wet situations...
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I know that >.<

I was showing you the front bumper, winch, tires and lift.
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... well.. run on out there and save a few grand at purchase.

See how thrilled you are when you find that you wish you had lockers and a 4:1 transfer case and then start paying to install them. My perspective is that if you get the vehicle equipped like that from the factory it's A) covered by warranty and B) a minor difference in your payment as opposed to having to shell out a big lump for big mods.

Maybe people start out not having any idea how to drive it on the trail, but dang... learning is half the fun.
Kate. some you think buying a rubi and adding mods to it, ( witch is what most do any way) is better than getting a x/sport and building is up, I have a 4.1 transfer case, little use 300.00$. 2.5"lift 180.00$, Rubi springs 80.00$ rubi wheels 100.00$ so far so cheep.? axle up grads coming soon. Im not trying be an ass but people can build up a X/sport for far less and still hang with your rubi. thats all I am saying.
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All those Rubicon extras are tried and tested by the factory to work, and to work with everything else on the vehicle. And when you roll a new Rubi off the lot it it's put together solid, in comparison to most any aftermarket build. No dealing with incompatible parts, clearance issues, fitment problems, bolts coming loose, squeeking and clunking noises, constant maintenance, multiple vendors unwilling to accept responsibility for a problem, etc., and it's all covered by the factory warranty. And even after the factory warranty expires you know you can take your problem to the dealer and stand a decent chance that they'll be able to figure out what's wrong and how to fix it. With a Rubi, you can immediately tackle probably 95% of the trails any of your buddies are hitting.

But building from an X is also a valid argument, and this debate will go on forever, just like the auto vs manual debate. There's no right or wrong answer. Just know your options and choose according to your particular situation.
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Excellent points, yomondo. I'm a total newb to offroading but I'm glad I went with a Rubi for all the reasons you mentioned. It's virtually stock except for upgraded headlights, and I have no plans on modding it. When I'm eventually ready to sell, I anticipate the resale value and demand will be much higher than an X that has been heavily modded.
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If I could have a do-over I'd have gotten an Automatic Rubi LJ...

Comes down to the Rubi has some things that can be useful on a lot of different trails. and adding these costs money after the purchase. Used Rubi's seem to be a good bang for the buck. I'm not so sure when the cost is 7k. It becomes negligible at that point.
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Excellent points, yomondo. I'm a total newb to offroading but I'm glad I went with a Rubi for all the reasons you mentioned. It's virtually stock except for upgraded headlights, and I have no plans on modding it. When I'm eventually ready to sell, I anticipate the resale value and demand will be much higher than an X that has been heavily modded.

you think a stock Rubi,will sell for more than a (heavily modded) X/sport. same year years down the road, just depends on the buyer and what they want in a jeep. what was i thinking, and all the parts from a rubi will work on my sport. - the front gears. ITS all what you what to do to your jeep, most mod it in some way making it better than it was, so if you want to spend 7-9 k more go on a head your choice some don't and build a very kick ass rig doing it that way.
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No disrespect intended to your Sport Trent, none at all. And non to those that want to start with an X and build it - but your idea of a build as listed above - putting stock Rubi parts (wheels, tires, springs, TC) on, and mine are a little different.

I quickly lifted mine and replaced the stock wheels & tires. Most folks, whether building an X or a Rubi would do that. Rarely do you see someone build a rig to stock specs, unless it's a restoration project of some kind. Most of the things that you listed, are things that I upgraded.

It's just that when you're starting with a Rubi, you're starting several steps ahead of the game, that's all. Yomondo hit the nail right on the head. Parts that fit, work together and are warrantied from the factory that won't void your warranty because you added them.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't there be a wider market for a used stock vehicle, since it's basically a blank slate that the new owner could modify to his/her liking?

I'm new to Jeeps, but I've owned motorcycles for many years. The general rule of thumb with motorcycles is that you never get your money back on accessories or upgrades - maybe just a small fraction of what they cost you, but nothing close to full value.
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To the OP....

I've done things in my nearly stock (2.25" BB) '04 LJ that a guy (yeah, new to wheelin') couldn't do in his Rubi.
It's more the driver that gets a Jeep where it goes than the parts on it.

If ya want to save $$'s and get the X, find a local club to join and learn the proper way to wheel. The X will get ya where ever ya want to go.
And if ya want the Rubi, still find a local club to join and learn the proper way to wheel.
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It's more the driver that gets a Jeep where it goes than the parts on it.
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You guys bring up a lot of valid points for both sides. It's going to be a tough decision. Regardless, I wont be getting a Jeep until May '11, and I'l be putting 20k down on whatever I plan on getting. I just dont know which one to go with, but I have plenty of time.
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Again, I will state, I would much much rather have air lockers than the crap electric lockers Jeep puts in. Warrantied or not, they are crap... And no one here with any true knowledge of lockers will dispute that.
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Again, I will state, I would much much rather have air lockers than the crap electric lockers Jeep puts in. Warrantied or not, they are crap... And no one here with any true knowledge of lockers will dispute that.

Are you talking about the JK having electric lockers?
Because my TJ has air lockers.

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