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Old 02-09-2011, 05:06 PM   #1
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Angry rubicon express shutdown

unfortunately the re 3.5 super flex lift that i have been waiting for over a month now will be a lot longer because of "Rubicon Express has temporarily shut down operations to financially restructure the company" now i am being offered to switch to Rough Country 4” X-Series Kit they said that they have beefed up the quality of it any other kits around that price range thanks

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Sounds like you lucked out! Would you have preferred to have just got your kit only to find out that the company was shutting down? Sure would suck in a couple of months when you needed a new set of their uber fantastic bushings and they aren't around. Then you'd be forced to upgrade without the satisfaction of replacing two or three sets of bushings and cursing RE before upgrading like so many others did!!!

Take a look at the kits from Currie. Personally I wouldn't go with RE, Rough Country, or any other kit that comes with control arms with bushings in them . . . not if you plan to flex the suspension anyway.

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Sounds like you lucked out! Would you have preferred to have just got your kit only to find out that the company was shutting down? Sure would suck in a couple of months when you needed a new set of their uber fantastic bushings and they aren't around. Then you'd be forced to upgrade without the satisfaction of replacing two or three sets of bushings and cursing RE before upgrading like so many others did!!!

Take a look at the kits from Currie. Personally I wouldn't go with RE, Rough Country, or any other kit that comes with control arms with bushings in them . . . not if you plan to flex the suspension anyway.
actually i would have gone with another from if i knew this was going to happen after over a month of waiting now i am looking into rough country Jeep TJ Suspension Lift or Rock Krawler 3.5" X Factor Short Arm System Wrangler TJ or Rock Krawler 3.5" X Factor Plus Short Arm System Wrangler TJ
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actually i would have gone with another from if i knew this was going to happen after over a month of waiting now i am looking into rough country Jeep TJ Suspension Lift or Rock Krawler 3.5" X Factor Short Arm System Wrangler TJ or Rock Krawler 3.5" X Factor Plus Short Arm System Wrangler TJ
I'd be more comfortable with the Rock Krawler kit based on the reputation although RC seems to be making some progress . . . I'm not really familiar with the RK set up though. The biggest issue I had when I lifted my TJ was the bushings in the control arms . . . I had UCAs from RE and LCAs from Full Traction and they both sucked ass and I was tearing up bushings after one or two outings. I'm in CA where there are a lot of rocks and flexing . . . might be different in your neck of the woods. I ended up biting the bullet after replacing a mess of bushings and upgraded all the CAs with Currie that have Johhny Joints on both ends . . . no more bushings . . . no more problems . . . probably the best mod I've done to the Jeep as not only do I not have to deal with the frustration of dealing with bushings, but the performance difference is quite noticable. If I were to do it again, I would piece the kit together with quality components or go with a Currie kit as it is probably the only one I've seen so far where they haven't cut corners or included some cheap components in the kit.
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thanks i will look into currie as well
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I'm in the same boat myself now, i had the same kit on order and they recommended a rock krawler kit. I'm just still not sure yet. Who all has this kit, I'm having a little trouble finding information.
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I had UCAs from RE and LCAs from Full Traction and they both sucked ass and I was tearing up bushings after one or two outings.
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I have a RE 4.5"lift on mine with no bushing issues at all. Rides real smooth and quiet. If I had to replace I would try Currie.
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I'm in the same boat myself now, i had the same kit on order and they recommended a rock krawler kit. I'm just still not sure yet. Who all has this kit, I'm having a little trouble finding information.
where did you order yours from? anyways i look at the kit they are replacing on mine and unfortunately they don't come with a set of bumpstops he said that i am not going to need it since i am running with 33s only but any bigger than that i will
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I'm in the same boat myself now, i had the same kit on order and they recommended a rock krawler kit. I'm just still not sure yet. Who all has this kit, I'm having a little trouble finding information.
by the way here's the link Rock Krawler Suspension, Inc.
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Take a look at the kits from Currie. Personally I wouldn't go with RE, Rough Country, or any other kit that comes with control arms with bushings in them . . . not if you plan to flex the suspension anyway.
X2...RE's bushings suck ...ugraded to Currie as well.


BTW rock krawler makes some pretty good stuff from what I've seen.
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I have a RE 4.5"lift on mine with no bushing issues at all. Rides real smooth and quiet. If I had to replace I would try Currie.
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Chalk it up to every Jeep is different I guess. Half the guys you talk to have bushing horror stories and the other half haven't had an issue . . . I don't get it. My buddy had almost the exact same Jeep . . . black Rubi, 4" lift, 33" tires, but had one of the cheaper ProComp kit on his . . . we ran the same trails and his bushings held up for a couple of years with no problem, mine would be torn to hell after a couple of trips.

This was the last batch and they had no more than 2-3 runs on them . . . oh the memories!!!


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Schmo...those exact pictures were posted from you when I had problems with my bushings and was asking around the forum, lol.

He does not lie people...the bushings are faulty...RE has even admitted it.
Mine went bad after 1 wheeling trip and maybe 2-3000 miles.
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Schmo...those exact pictures were posted from you when I had problems with my bushings and was asking around the forum, lol.

He does not lie people...the bushings are faulty...RE has even admitted it.
Mine went bad after 1 wheeling trip and maybe 2-3000 miles.
I had to go back a few pages on my photobucket account to find them . . . it's been so nice not having to mess with CAs in the last couple of years since I got the Curries! The sad part is after admitting to having a bad batch of bushings, RE sent me their new and improved bushing with the four injection marks on the side and it was torn faster than any of the others I'd had! I gave up after that . . . I was sick of having to wrench all the time and addressing the same issue over and over.
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i hope rk will have better stuff than re
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i hope rk will have better stuff than re
All I can say is if the control arms have bushings . . . beware and good luck. I'm not on the payroll for Currie so I'm going to leave it at that!
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Take a look a TeraFlex, we have plenty of TJ and JK kits in stock.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:55 AM   #18
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Looks like the parent company of 4WP is buying RE. What a perfect marriage . . . it's a mall crawler's dream!
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Call Dirk at DPG Offroad. Check out the OME hybrid kit.
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You dont have to have a JJ in both ends of the arm, you can use a bushing on one side and a JJ on the other and it will be just fine.

On another note the new RC x kits are pretty cool and come with JJ's
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You dont have to have a JJ in both ends of the arm, you can use a bushing on one side and a JJ on the other and it will be just fine.

On another note the new RC x kits are pretty cool and come with JJ's
Most the guys I know who had issues with RE, myself included had the arms with a joint on one side and bushing on the other . . . and the bushings would still be shot in no time. I would assume the joint helped a bit, but it was hard to tell when the bushings wouldn't last a month or two . . . perhaps if they had bushings on both ends they'd only last a few days or weeks . . . I'm not sure! Either way, after the issues I had with bushings in CAs, I wouldn't install an arm with a bushing in it ever again.
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Hmmm sucks to hear that for sure....my hardcore truggy is setup with bushing in one end and JJ on the other and Ive never lost one. My bet is the geometry isnt exactly right and its eating them up
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Hmmm sucks to hear that for sure....my hardcore truggy is setup with bushing in one end and JJ on the other and Ive never lost one. My bet is the geometry isnt exactly right and its eating them up

I've written it off to the old "every Jeep is different" saying. A couple of my buddies ran the cheapo Pro Comp kit with bushings on both ends for years and never had a single issue with a bushing . . . then myself and another buddy had the higher end kits and had nothing but problems . . . it was the same 4 guys doing all the work on all 4 Jeeps so they should have all been set up pretty close and at the time we were all on 33's with different 4" lifts, all Rubi's too, I can't explain it. The only thing I know based on the reports I've heard from others, is that we weren't the only ones having issues with certain kits and their bushings.
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The only thing I know based on the reports I've heard from others, is that we weren't the only ones having issues with certain kits and their bushings.





BTW...my buddy who runs the same exact RE CA's that I did hasn't had a problem. He bought his about 6 months after I did. I guess I got the faulty bushings and maybe he got a set of the "improved" bushings form RE.
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Looks like RE is back . . . got an email today. Funny the ad mentions their new Control Arms, but no mention of the bushings . . . just that they have new joints. FYI RE, your reputation going down the crapper had nothing to do with your joints . . . wake up! Maybe it's an old ad/write up. Not sure, but in the pic of the TJ kit, it almost looks like they went back to the old OEM style bushings, didn't look like the hourglass crap. Again could be an old pic they are using, but sure would be a smart idea for them to go back to the style of bushing that worked and got them the reputation that the newer bushing design destroyed.
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I have the RE 4.5" Superflex with short control arms. Can I replace the bushings with another company's bushings or do I have to replace the control arms?
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I have the RE 4.5" Superflex with short control arms. Can I replace the bushings with another company's bushings or do I have to replace the control arms?
do you have hourglass shape bushings? those break down, which probably helped put them out of business. the also used Clevite's years before, and those worked good.

if you've got the hourglass POS's, i believe Daystar is now selling replacements for the RE junk. If you can't find them, you'll need to replace entire control arms or at least hack off the bad bushing end and weld something else in its place...JJ or an Clevite bushing housing.

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