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Old 06-05-2010, 11:26 PM   #1
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safety??

Im 17 and my girlfriends parents are freaking out about the 6 inch suspension lift kit and 35 inch tires i have on it and wont let me drive her in it. i dont know whether or not their fear is legit or not.. and i need to have evidence to convince them that the jeep is safe! if it is. im new to this so i dont really. and help would be greatly appreciated

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Old 06-05-2010, 11:29 PM   #2
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Post some pictures. As a parent of a lovely young lady, I need to see YOUR picture, a picture of your Jeep, and you might as well post a picture of where you live. Once I have this info, I can give you an informed opinion.

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haha i dont know how a picture of me is relevant but im no thrillseeking young male and believe myself to be relatively trustworthy! i live in charlottesville VA.
I haven't taken any pictures of it but heres a picture that the dealers took.

http://images.autotrader.com/scaler/..._A.562x421.jpg.

im more concerned with the legistics of the suspension lift and oversized tires, what they actually do to the risk factor of rolling over and general safety
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Sorry, but as a parent I need the other pics to generate an opinion on whether they will ever let her ride with you.
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i respect where you're coming from. im not comfortable posting pictures of myself online to someone i do not know, so if you choose not to help any more i understand. i will tell you that ive been dating her for two years, and her parents trust me, they just do not trust the safety and integrity of the lift kit. i dont know whether their fear is because of common stereotypes about jeeps and lift kits or whether it is based on true facts. thanks
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:57 PM   #6
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Just take the father for a ride and let him see what he thinks
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:57 PM   #7
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oh and that is a badass jeep
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:59 PM   #8
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thanks! im going to do that! but i want to make sure to be able to defend myself with facts because he's very protective and i feel that he believes it wont be the "everyday ride" that gets her hurt, but itll be the odd random freak ride where the lift kit of the jeep exacerbates the risk effect enough to injure her..
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very badass jeep... i know exaclty how you feal, was with my gf two and a half years before her parents... well mom gave into letting her ride on my street bike... and in the jeep with no doors... i mean there is a thing on the visor saying the top and doors don't do anything right? haha
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First to judge, I will definitely need pics of the girlfriend.

But seriously, I don't know exactly what to show you to help.

http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html

Safety rating, Jeep Wrangler's have a 4/5 crash test rating. Tell her about how safe the vehicle is because of the steel bumpers, how much higher it sits, and how cautious of a driver you are. Offer to take the parents for a drive first, point out how well it really handles and how the misconceptions about Wranglers aren't true. That said, they really do have a higher rate of roll over because of the shorter wheel base, but let them know that you've properly lifted it with a suspension lift and therefore, you raised the center of gravity so you didn't defeat the safety of it.

Unfortunately, being that you're 17 a new driver and all, that's tough they won't trust you to drive. My sister won't ride in mine because she's a nurse and thinks its unsafe, and I just have to respect that opinion. Good luck man.

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i mean there is a thing on the visor sayig the top and doors don't do anything right?
I probably wouldn't mention this little fact to them.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:03 AM   #11
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yeah that little sticker wont make them feel any better about it....
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:04 AM   #12
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did you have anything before the jeep?
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but thanks. i definitely will do my best
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:05 AM   #14
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yeah a 1993 chevrolet blazer. with 10k miles on it..
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:08 AM   #15
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really though, like the above post, in collision, the jeep holds up great, and the height does help... but you seem more concerned about roll over... as long as you dont do any crazy, pull out qick with the wheels turned you'll be alright.
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well im not the once concerned with the rollover its her parents. her father is a doctor. a real numbers and solid facts kind of guy so i was hoping for something to tell him about the addition of the lift kit and what that does to the rollover possibility. like does it heighten it or lower it? personally i think that it doesnt matter what kind of lift kit you have, if youre driving any jeep in a manner more fitting to a sports car it will flip. but thats not enough to convince him
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you got it, its a jeep... just like they say suv's (aka your blazer) are prone to roll overs...well not so much prone, but more likely then a car. If it is driven right then there isnt any wories. hm... thats a tough one.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:17 AM   #18
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ill trade.. mine sits lower... haha
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:18 AM   #19
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yeah. im pretty stuck. i dont know how to handle it, because i dont want to have to be driven around by her in her little red volkswagon beetle, but idk where to go from here
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:21 AM   #20
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Just tell him that your chances of rolling over are actually less likely than if it was stock because your center of gravity is actually lower and stance is wider due to adding weight lower in the jeep
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:23 AM   #21
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thats what im looking for but i need to konw why the cog is lower. how does that work? i konw that the added weight and wider base will provide stability but how does that offset the six inch lift? what would the net change on the cog be?
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:28 AM   #22
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it's like an exam on here with you haha..try this thread http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/lcg-...ity-22073.html..

I read the first post in it but nothing after that, not sure how helpful it will be but it is titled low center of gravity
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:30 AM   #23
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haha you think im an exam? talk to her father. and thanks
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:35 AM   #24
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lol im just messing around..anyway a roll over in a jeep if you aren't wheeling is gonna be the drivers fault not the jeeps
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:38 AM   #25
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yeah and i dont konw how to sell that to him in a way that will make him let me drive her in it..
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well you just gotta convince him i wish you luck with that..you should get some more pics of that jeep up that is a nice looking ride..stick or auto?
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:44 AM   #27
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definitely stick. and thanks for your help
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:46 AM   #28
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not a problem..take it easy and good luck man!
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Yea, explain to him the LCG because of your wide 35s as opposed to skinny car tires and skinny typical SUV tires. Compare 35x15 to 215/75 ratio and you'll see that your tires help distribute the weight. Explain you are a responsible driver. And let him know the lift kit is done properly and complemented by the better matched tires.

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