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Old 03-25-2010, 01:55 PM   #1
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Sahara VS. Rubcon/Trailing Capabilities

What are the capability differences when trailing between these two choices?? Also, is the urban driving much different? Thank you.

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Old 03-25-2010, 02:51 PM   #2
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What I know from jeep shopping over the years, the Sahara has nicer trim packages and Daily driver conveniences, the Rubicon is built tougher for the trail an has the serious off road options in the package. The Rubicon is the best stock off road package that jeep makes. They both are extremely trail capable though, just like any wrangler. If it came down to it I would choose the Rubicon with no hesitation but that's just me.

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The Sahara is very competent off-road, and for most people will do everything they really want to do. Don't think that it's not a good trail vehicle. Even stock, it's good.

The Rubicon takes it up a notch or two, by adding at the factory some of the upgrades serious Jeeper's were already doing. Like locking differentials, disconnecting sway bars, and stronger axles. Rubicon's are pretty amazing vehicles. Whether you think you need the extra capability is up to you.

I suspect that a lot of Rubicon owners didn't really need that rig.
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:08 PM   #4
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If you plan on ever going offroading and joining the crowd. Defiantly go with the Rubicon. Not only will it give you immediate bragging rights. But you will have D44 in both the front and rear WITH locker at the very start. Things that take a lot of money to get the others to that point. Though that is not all you will also get the NV241 transfercase that not only has no slip yoke(costs 300-400 to convert the 231 if doing the work yourself) but also have a 4:1 low gearing(which costs around $1000 to convert the 231 yourself) Those three things would make me pic a '03 Rubicon with 120k over a '09 JK unlimited X with 10k anyday.

Though if you have the chance at a JK rubicon go with it over the Tj rubicon. More creature comforts, stronger D44's than previous gen, NVG241OR transfercase(basiclly the same) More potential tire clearance with tube fenders, automatic sway bar disconnects, ABS with traction control and trailer sway. And could get a GPS in the dash.

That is the only thing I regret with my jeep perhase, that I didn't get a Rubicon, I didn't know any better back then. Now I am searching for a 241 and D44's or an 8.8 and D44 front to swap in. I won't go higher that 35's but want lockers, can't do that with the d30 and d35, that 4:1 gearing in the transfercase helps alot.

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Old 03-25-2010, 03:43 PM   #5
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Both are fantastic, but if the prices are close, get the Rubi.

If I wouldn't have gotten such a low price (for my area) on my Jeep, I'd feel bad for not getting a Rubicon. but mine was priced about 3-5k less than every other TJ Wrangler in my area...
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A Rubicon is fine on the street but would be a waste of money it that's what you will be doing primarily IMO.
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Old 03-25-2010, 04:20 PM   #7
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A Rubicon is fine on the street but would be a waste of money it that's what you will be doing primarily IMO.
Depends on price difference IMO.

and its money that you will still be able to get out of it when u sell.
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YUP! and that really counts, where you are

I paid $30,xxx out the door in late '08 for my Rubi

There are just 2 within 300 miles of San Francisco, for sale, for 32K and 35K and thats for a 2 year old jeep, the Rubi JK's, really hold their value

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I suspect that a lot of Rubicon owners didn't really need that rig.
True, but I sure do feel good riding around in it.....
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I have a rubi and took it on some trails recently and was suprised how capable it is box stock. I never even locked the axles or used the front sway bar disco and it just went through everything very easily. To me for the price I was getting it for, it was a no brainer.
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True, but I sure do feel good riding around in it.....
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YUP! and that really counts, where you are

I paid $30,xxx out the door in late '08 for my Rubi

There are just 2 within 300 miles of San Francisco, for sale, for 32K and 35K and thats for a 2 year old jeep, the Rubi JK's, really hold their value

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I live in SW Colorado and do a lot of off-road driving. My '10 Sahara Unlimited is my ninth Jeep and I consider it to be one of the best I've owned. With the exception of rock crawling, I can go just about anywhere a Rubicon can go. Price was never a consideration, but the ease of getting in and out of the driver's seat was important.
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Here's my question cause I've been pondering a similar subject. I used to be a mechanic so I know my way around a vehicle and Can spin a good wrench. So is it cheaper to buy a non rubicon and do the mods mostly by your self? I'm taking up grading axles adding in lockers and all that hub bub.
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I suspect that a lot of Rubicon owners didn't really need that rig.
No, but man did I want it !!!! And VERY happy I have it!!!!
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When the going gets tough, Sahara owners start pulling off Sahara parts and buying something better.

Confession of this Sahara owner...

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Here's my question cause I've been pondering a similar subject. I used to be a mechanic so I know my way around a vehicle and Can spin a good wrench. So is it cheaper to buy a non rubicon and do the mods mostly by your self? I'm taking up grading axles adding in lockers and all that hub bub.
Depends on how serious of a build you'll do.

Even if you buy the Rubicon and want to build, you can sell those axles later and pay for half of your D60s...
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Buying a Rubi doesn't eliminate your off-road addiction craze, I paid $30K for mine and as of NOW I'm in 7K more-will it ever end ??

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