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Old 02-20-2013, 06:39 PM   #1
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Seatbelt danger while wheeling

So the last time I went wheeling with my wife,and a friend in his Jeep, we were on a very steep sidewards angle & couldent get the seatbelt off or move because it locked up.Is the way to cure this from happening is installing a harness?? How many carry a knife for this reason? It could be a safety concern.

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Old 02-20-2013, 07:21 PM   #2
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the seat belt was actually doing its job and probably was "saving" you more then hurting you.... the jeep rolls and you dont have the belt on... your the first thing minus your tool box that's headed for the outside.

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There's a little device that looks like a big plastic paper clip that u can attach to the belt above the shoulder portion of the strap that will stop the belt from going through the upper attachment point. I used to use one on an old Dodge Ram. After 5 minutes the shoulder portion of the belt would continue to snug down and cut off the circulation to my left carotid artery. I bought it at Wal Mart.
You'll find as many pro's as con's from people in regard to wearing seat belts while wheeling. It makes sense to wear one to avoid being ejected in case of a roll over. Personally I wear it, but at worst I'll put the shoulder strap over my head and let it sit in back of me while the lap belt is still in place. But I only do that if it's restricting my ability to twist and turn to visualize an object or situation.
Probably be a good idea to have a knife handy of better yet order a seatbelt cutter online, that way theres no open knife edges, and u could velcro it somewhere on the console.
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I've got a 4 point harness instead of the factory belt. I like it more than the belt as its fully adjustable and i can unhook with the flick of a latch.
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I've got a 4 point harness instead of the factory belt. I like it more than the belt as its fully adjustable and i can unhook with the flick of a latch.
This sounds like the way to go.
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This sounds like the way to go.
Just remember you need a cross bar to mount to. If the upper straps mount to the floor, any accident or rollover will cause compression of your spine. Very bad.

It needs to look like this:

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Can i get some more pics on that bar? The PO mounted mine and like most of the stuff they did it's half ass.
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Can i get some more pics on that bar? The PO mounted mine and like most of the stuff they did it's half ass.
Oh that's not mine. Mr. Google showed me that pic, I bet he has more.
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Oh that's not mine. Mr. Google showed me that pic, I bet he has more.
One thing i can't understand is how floor vs bar mounting stops spinal injuries, can you elaborate on that?
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One thing i can't understand is how floor vs bar mounting stops spinal injuries, can you elaborate on that?
Sure can.

If the upper straps are beneath shoulder height and the lowers are connected to the floor (where else?), the harness really just forms a loop up and over you. When you hit a wall/tree/bigger vehicle, you go forward until the loop is drawn tight - on top of your shoulders. This is called an Axial Load, and what happens if you dive into a pool with no water. It can and does cause paralyzing injuries. In other words, all the inertia and force of your weight goes up while your shoulders are held in place.

The uppers must be in a position to hold you back, not down. If they are located properly, the seat itself forms part of the restraint system, and the straps cover the rest.

Make sense?
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Sure can.

If the upper straps are beneath shoulder height and the lowers are connected to the floor (where else?), the harness really just forms a loop up and over you. When you hit a wall/tree/bigger vehicle, you go forward until the loop is drawn tight - on top of your shoulders. This is called an Axial Load, and what happens if you dive into a pool with no water. It can and does cause paralyzing injuries. In other words, all the inertia and force of your weight goes up while your shoulders are held in place.

The uppers must be in a position to hold you back, not down. If they are located properly, the seat itself forms part of the restraint system, and the straps cover the rest.

Make sense?
Yep, time to get fabbing. Thanks

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