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Old 04-23-2007, 03:27 PM   #31
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You mean ones that could kick you butt both on and off the trail?
Hmmmm, well, since you put it that way...... yes!

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I like off roading and Im a woman - but I'm just bad at it...I've had to replace the rear axle twice...maybe I need to invest in some new parts or something

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Old 04-23-2007, 03:45 PM   #33
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Well shucks, thanks Unlimited. I didn't feel that accomplishment on Saturday until way after cuz I'm easily frustrated with myself but stubborn as a mule and hard to stop. I hate not catching on right away and picking a decent line has just eluded me at most turns. Took me a while to relax when I fought, I think it'll take me a while to relax and not beat myself up over missteps on the trail.

I do think you're right though. Need to conquer above all else is where that line just might be.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:14 PM   #34
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I really think you are beating up on yourself too much. Everyone that wheels gets stuck at one time or another. Anyone who says that they never needed a tug or a jack to get out of a tight situation is either lying or has never attempted a black diamond trail.

Instead of being frustrated about getting stuck, you should be thinking about what happened that got you in that situation, what you did to get out of it, and how you can avoid it next time.

Saturday was my son's first real time wheelin'. He attempted to run one of the most difficult lines through that second rock section and ended up getting stuck. We were able to get going again by jacking up the axle and putting rocks under one wheel. He said that he was worried about damaging my Jeep and stopped paying attention to his spotter for a second. That is what got him into trouble. Next time he'll know better.

I think that everyone in our group did an excellent job running that trail and I think everyone should be happy with their efforts. You just need to relax and enjoy the ride. Just like fighting, skill will come with time.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:42 PM   #35
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I thought everyone did a fantastic job out there Saturday. Sure it took a while to get some of the rigs through some of the more difficult spots, thats normal and to be expected. Look at how long it took some of the people ahead of us. A poor driver would have gotten frustrated and either quit or done real damage.

At this point in your wheeling, don't expect to waltz through like Rawkon and Unlimited. Remember they've been doing this a while and have learned both the trails and their rigs very well. At this stage just try to get better each time and enjoy. Look back at what you made it through and think about how intimidating/impossible that would have been just a year ago.

I don't really have the "conquer" thing going on as much as I just enjoy being on the trails. Depending on who I am with I can spend all day on dirt roads or black diamond as long as I am out there.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:55 PM   #36
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....I don't really have the "conquer" thing going on ......
Who you tryin' to kid:



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Old 04-23-2007, 05:09 PM   #37
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Who made me take that line? Remember? I was gonna take the easy line until you pulled the whole peer pressure thing on me .
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:38 PM   #38
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Oooooooh, it was the mine's bigger than yours thing was it? I didn't even know you took the hard line, Red, I freaking missed it!!!
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Eric made a point yesterday that was most likely true: For me that probably was the easy line as it was much less offcamber, you just needed the clearance and armor to do it. I think I hit my muffler (not my tail pipe like everyone thought) which is armored as well and my rear DS scuffed but that was about it. Heck of a good job spotting Brian!
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My wife is a more than capable off road driver, in fact has taken our Toyota on tougher lines than I may have. But she does not take directions well, more of a do-it-myself personality, so I don't know how well she would do with having to go through a trail section under a spotter's instruction.

So, as far as the Jeep, she would need to learn manual trans. and become proficient at it, then be willing to sit in the passenger seat and see how having a spotter works and how important and useful it is. Same things I had to learn.

Not a matter of if she'll drive it, just a matter of when.
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Who made me take that line? Remember? I was gonna take the easy line until you pulled the whole peer pressure thing on me .
Made you? Oh yeah, sure, I made you.......

(By the way, that is the same route my son went through. His first time wheelin'.)
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Oooooooh, it was the mine's bigger than yours thing was it? I didn't even know you took the hard line, Red, I freaking missed it!!!
We'll just have to do it again so tiny can watch

And yes, mine is longer......
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Yeah, but mine is cuter
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I feel the need to conquer
........and exceed my personal best in many things I do. I think it boils down to an individual's personality and how they approach a percieved challenge. Depends on a person's interests and to a degree, what they may have been exposed to.
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I probably would have enjoyed doing things like that if my dad hadn't traumatized me as a child by taking the family in the old monte carlo and gone mudding and mountain climbing in the damn thing. Flying out of my seat and into the back windshield just kinda ruined it for me.
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Now Texapple, don't go getting all philosophical on us.
.......ok

I'm a show off, I can't help myself
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Made you? Oh yeah, sure, I made you.......
I remember hearing something along the lines of "What else did you build that for?"

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(By the way, that is the same route my son went through. His first time wheelin'.)
Yeah, I also remember your Big Stuck .

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We'll just have to do it again so tiny can watch

And yes, mine is longer......
Well, if we are gonna be like that......

Mine's Bigger

Just messen' with ya Brian, it was fun and I'm glad you made me take the bigger line , for his first time out your son did quite well.
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ERIC!!! I didn't hijack it. They did.
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ERIC!!! I didn't hijack it. They did.
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And that's all I got to say about that....
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Some girls are just girly girls...

I just thought of Arnold (Terminator) when he called the Repulican congreess men-

"Stop being Girly Men"....LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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I probably would have enjoyed doing things like that if my dad hadn't traumatized me as a child by taking the family in the old monte carlo and gone mudding and mountain climbing in the damn thing. Flying out of my seat and into the back windshield just kinda ruined it for me.
I dreamed of my father doing that with his Chrysler New Yorker....
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I probably would have enjoyed doing things like that if my dad hadn't traumatized me as a child by taking the family in the old monte carlo and gone mudding and mountain climbing in the damn thing. Flying out of my seat and into the back windshield just kinda ruined it for me.
Me wanting to take every goat trail I come across might not help either
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Me wanting to take every goat trail I come across might not help either
lol I took my mustang off road many times before I met you =P
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There is a small group of us that wheel together (6 jeeps). There is 1 woman that wheels her jeepand she is one of the better drivers. The rest of the women seem to prefer to ride and not wheel it. But, 1 of the couples will switch off when we wheel. They were bustin on my wife to wheel my jeep. I think her reply was something like, NO Thank you, it takes 2 hands to hold on. lol
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lol I took my mustang off road many times before I met you =P
I do seem to remember picking rocks out of your crossmemeber when I crawled under that thing.
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I do seem to remember picking rocks out of your crossmemeber when I crawled under that thing.
meh, what can I say? I love racing and sometimes I end up in the ditch =P
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meh, what can I say? I love racing and sometimes I end up in the ditch =P
That explains the rocks, what about the 2 in. of caked on Mud
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I'll repeat what someone else said "you 2, get a room" !

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