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Old 06-24-2008, 05:20 PM   #1
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Setting the Bead on a tire

so i took my tires to a place to get them balanced but they said they are too big to fit on their machine. So I want to pop the bead and put in some bb's. There are tons of places that tell me how many bb's and of what kind, but how do i pop the bead off, and how do i get it back on, preferably not with starter fluid cause that wont fly with my dad.

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you need a tire machine. it is possible without it, but really sucks. pull valve stem core out, and they make a hammer made to hit the bead. not worth it, have a tire shop bust them down and put it in for you.

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yeah i highly doubt they'de put them in, i live in massachusetts and there are more lawyers than any other profession, maybe they'de reset the bead
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breaking the bead is the harder part.
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remove the valve core and let all the air out. Then drive on the tire with another vehicle to break the bead. Put your beads in, then reset the bead with a few hands, some knees and a lot of air.
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I use a big ratchet strap to bulge the bead closer to the wheel. I always remove the valve stem cores to air up. Usually catches within the first couple tries.

OR I just get my wife to do it.

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yeah we have a tire hammer like dave said, and well if you can land a hard blow right on the bead itll work good. but hitting the wheel is bad. we use it mostly for larger truck tires. and we have used the rachet strap techinque, seems to work most of the time, but now we have a cheeta, pretty much and air tank with a vavle and pipe to put enough air in the tire to seat the bead really fast.
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ok so 1. if i dont ahve a vehicle capable of driving onto my 35" tire (i dont think a sedan can really do that!) what do i do, i dont wanna hurt my tires
2.What and how do i remove and put a valve core back in
3.will a compressor/tank that is meant for air tools have enough air to set the bead?
4. about how long would u think four tires would take?
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EDIT: Oops wrong button. Use the jeep like I did. You can set something between the rotor and tire to keep from damaging the sidewall like a thick mudflap or floormat or something. As you can see in my pic I didn't care about the old tires. Just put in a half seconds worth of ether when your dad isn't looking. Or do it at a friends house.
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ok so 1. if i dont ahve a vehicle capable of driving onto my 35" tire (i dont think a sedan can really do that!) what do i do, i dont wanna hurt my tires
2.What and how do i remove and put a valve core back in
3.will a compressor/tank that is meant for air tools have enough air to set the bead?
4. about how long would u think four tires would take?
1. Have you looked everywhere for someone to dismount the tires for you? A 35" tire isn't huge so finding someone to take it off shouldn't be a problem. Every place I went to take my 36's off said they could do it. I just went to the first place that said they could do it right then without a long wait.

2. It depends on the valve stem. Is it the standard rubber valve stem? If so, go to the local auto parts store and get a valve stem removal tool. I think the one I bought was less than $ 10. Instructions are included.

3. Yes it will work. If you need to coax it a little use some soapy water around the bead and that will help it slide on and seat.

4. Depends on the person doing the work. It took me about an hour per wheel and tire to mount my beadlocks and 90% of that was torquing down the beadlock ring. Without beadlocks I would think a normal person with half a brain could do one in about 20 minutes. You should get it done in about 45.
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I would think a normal person with half a brain could do one in about 20 minutes. You should get it done in about 45.
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You should get it done in about 45.

Visa gets all 5 done in under an hour.
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Visa gets all 5 done in under an hour.
That was one small job I actually did myself and this is one of the reasons I hardcore.

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ya know... you'd think that qualifies you as hardcore. But given every single time I've been to the tire balance machine and having to teach the tire monkeys how to do their job... goes over like a fart in a phone booth if you ask me.

We shall all bow to that which is.... billavista. Did you read his coilover bible??
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ya know... you'd think that qualifies you as hardcore. But given every single time I've been to the tire balance machine and having to teach the tire monkeys how to do their job... goes over like a fart in a phone booth if you ask me.

We shall all bow to that which is.... billavista. Did you read his coilover bible??
Haven't read the coilover bible yet but I have skimmed a few articles. He seems to know what he's talking about.
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jeeze, this is a lot of discussion when a tire shop should do all four for under $40, or just spend a couple hours fartin with it.
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discussion??? on a discussion forum??
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haha, well i took it to the two places i know, and they said they were too big for them to balance them, and i havent tried asking them to pop the beads put in bb's and reset the beads, i have a feeling they wouldn't want to do that, maybe i can pop the bead and put the bb's in then drive the tires up in my dads van and have them reset the bead
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discussion??? on a discussion forum??
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balancing is one thing, they are too big for most tire balancers, but they aren't too big for a normal tire machine that busts them down and puts them on (2 seperate machines). no shop should have an issue with popping and reseating the bead for $20
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ok well do u think its better to bring the jeep up nd the bb's or w/e and ask themt to put them in (i doubt they'de dp it but idk) or just take the tires off myself, pop the bead, put the bb's in then ahve them set the bead?
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Have them dismount the tires then you can mount and put the bb's in yourself.
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how about buying a good product where you don't have to break the bead??


easy installation for $2.79.



filtered valve cores for 2.99.



balancing media 4 at 12oz packages is under 70 bucks.

all at http://innovativebalancing.com/index.html
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I've done a few tires on hummers as tire changing was 'driver maintenance', by hand with tire irons and that includes dealing with that dam runflat aluminum donut in the inside too.
Get core removal tool, let air out, take 4ft long 2x6 lay it on the tire from tread to wheel, eyeball it, then take dads car and drive up the 2x6 with someone watching, may have to adjust the 2x6 a couple of times but that should pop it. It will need a good shot of air to get the bead to reseat it though, a 5 gallon compressor, maybe but that would be pure luck.
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I've done a few tires on hummers as tire changing was 'driver maintenance', by hand with tire irons and that includes dealing with that dam runflat aluminum donut in the inside too.
Have you ever messed with the rubber runflat thats covered in grease in the humvee tires? Man I hated those things. Total PITA.

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