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Old 12-07-2013, 01:06 PM   #1
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so much hummer hate?

Im still new to owning a jeep but almost everyone that owns one has stickers that say "its a jeep if it was a hummer id call your sister" "NEVER wave to a hummer" and I see forums with people parked next to them comparing xD
Why doesnt anyone that owns a jeep like them? Lol

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Old 12-07-2013, 01:15 PM   #2
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I love hummers! If I could afford it I would have an H1, anything other than that doesn't appeal to me

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Old 12-07-2013, 02:23 PM   #3
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I would buy an H1 ANY day...... but, like the newer Jeeps.... they are WAY too proud of them.

Same opinion of Yota LC.....

The H2s, H3s are purely for show IMHO.
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I don't hate hummers, I rarely give them a second thought. On the forums, one of the cool things to do is to say you hate hummers, though. I'd bet almost every hater has never driven or ridden in a hummer, and have almost no clue about what they are and aren't capable of.
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I'm indifferent when it comes to Hummers. The H2 and H3 are much more geared towards on road comfort so I chuckle when I see people talking about how great they are off road.

But hey, if someone likes theirs more power to them.

Just remember though, a hummer is just a hummer. A Jeep goes all the way.
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:41 PM   #6
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I have yet to see a hummer in the woods where I live, its either because they cant go far orr no one can afford one
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A lot of the hate I've seen for hummers is directed at a) the H2 / H3 crowd that thinks their Tahoe with a body kit is the end all of off roading and b) overly smug H1 owners.

I've seen people rag on the hummer because it's not as nimble or capable as a 2 modified jeep / bronco / whatever but they forget that the H1s were never really designed to be rock crawlers or hardcore trail rigs. They were designed for a specific purpose and do pretty well at it.
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My mind was in the gutter when i came into this thread lol...

but now that i'm here, the only hummer which attracts me is the H1

H2 and H3 are completely useless
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Im still new to owning a jeep but almost everyone that owns one has stickers that say "its a jeep if it was a hummer id call your sister" "NEVER wave to a hummer" and I see forums with people parked next to them comparing xD
Why doesnt anyone that owns a jeep like them? Lol

the correct quote is" If I wanted a hummer I'd call your sister".
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:49 PM   #10
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the correct quote is" If I wanted a hummer I'd call your sister".
Lmfao thats what I meant, i was like ?? It is right and re-read it and realized how wrong i said that lol
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I don't think its hate so much as ridicule. If you are in the stands watching and criticizing, you own a Hummer. If you like to get out on the trails and actually do things, you own a Jeep. How many Hummer's have you seen on the trails? Therefore, Hummers are a joke, and we ridicule them. But, it's all in fun.

It's like the guy who buys a $300 pair of sneakers just to walk around looking good(Hummers). Then, you have the guy who wears a cheap pair of sneakers, and is always on the court(Jeepers).
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I don't think its hate so much as ridicule. If you are in the stands watching and criticizing, you own a Hummer. If you like to get out on the trails and actually do things, you own a Jeep. How many Hummer's have you seen on the trails? Therefore, Hummers are a joke, and we ridicule them. But, it's all in fun.

It's like the guy who buys a $300 pair of sneakers just to walk around looking good(Hummers). Then, you have the guy who wears a cheap pair of sneakers, and is always on the court(Jeepers).
Agreed! Makes perfect sense hahah
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Maybe because this is how a Hummer looks when we cross paths?
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Im still new to owning a jeep but almost everyone that owns one has stickers that say "its a jeep if it was a hummer id call your sister" "NEVER wave to a hummer" and I see forums with people parked next to them comparing xD Why doesnt anyone that owns a jeep like them? Lol
Cool! About time someone I know joins this forum!

Don't forget the "Hummer recovery vehicle" decals!

However hummer tried to sue jeep for the number of slits in the front grille awhile back. Maybe jeep sued hummer, I don't remember....

They are large, bad on fuel, and some of the owners think they can go anywhere with them.

But it's mostly just all in good fun. I see "jeep recovery vehicle" stickers all the time.

Reminds me the picture of a hummer owner checking my jeep out lmao.
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:06 PM   #15
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I would buy an H1 ANY day...... but, like the newer Jeeps.... they are WAY too proud of them. Same opinion of Yota LC..... The H2s, H3s are purely for show IMHO.
Yes the H1 is the true hummer! Even hardcore jeep guys would love to own them. I was in one once, and I believe there was a switch where you could inflate or deflate the tires as needed. Either that or it was a diff lock switch for front and rear. Whatever it was it amazed the heck out of me.
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H1s are cool, I'd love to have an Alpha one day. H3s aren't bad, there aren't many fully enclosed SUVs from the same era that do as well off road. H2s are an embarrassment, and thanks to GM's incompetence what most people think of when they think of Hummer.
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Yes the H1 is the true hummer! Even hardcore jeep guys would love to own them. I was in one once, and I believe there was a switch where you could inflate or deflate the tires as needed. Either that or it was a diff lock switch for front and rear. Whatever it was it amazed the heck out of me.

It was an inflate/deflate.... the H1s could do that on the fly...... I was in the process of looking/buying back when they first hit the market at about $45K..... but I could not convince the wife it was worth her giving hummers for me to get one....

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I'm probably in the minority here and I dont care. I like the H3. I almost bought one but I need a truck more than I needed another SUV so I went with the F150 crew cab. I dont really care how great the H3 would have been off road as it would have been my DD not my toy. My YJ is my "go out on the trail and have fun" vehicle. So I guess it is what it is.
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It was an inflate/deflate.... the H1s could do that on the fly...... I was in the process of looking/buying back when they first hit the market at about $45K..... but I could not convince the wife it was worth her giving hummers for me to get one....

This is CTIS central Tire Inflation System. It's a great tool on H1/HMMWV to adjust tire pressure from inside the cab. Ive gone wheeling with H1s they are awesome at time but too big for tight trails- very tough. I agree with some that the H3 is a decent vehicle- a more modern XJ style vehicle. The H2 is just goofy.
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but they forget that the H1s were never really designed to be rock crawlers or hardcore trail rigs. They were designed for a specific purpose and do pretty well at it.
Yep. It was designed for going cross country and keeping up with the tanks. It's much better at the Baja style high speed driving than a standard Jeep. And that's why the military wanted them built that way.

But yeah, what makes the H1 good at cross country driving makes it not as good for technical rock crawling.
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I don't compare the two, nor do I hate Hummers (except the ones with 22" rims, low profile tires, and miles of chrome). The Wrangler and Hummer are apples and oranges - they just both happen to have 4 wheel drive and a nameplate with links to the military. It's like slamming a 5.56mm for not being able to knock down with the authority of a 7.62mm at 500 yards. Different birds...
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It's like the guy who buys a $300 pair of sneakers just to walk around looking good(Hummers). Then, you have the guy who wears a cheap pair of sneakers, and is always on the court(Jeepers).
Haha great comparison.
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One of the coolest legal things I've done in Vegas was a H1 tour of the desert. Guy was hilarious, and the rig was amazing flying around the sand and hills outside of town near the old mines. don't think the current generation could go where that did.
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H3s are very capable trail rigs. Especially with the Adventure Package and the factory lockers.

Honestly, I wanted an H3 for a very long time. Had I been able to get one that wasn't already out of the factory warranty, I would've. But my experience with GM vehicles hasn't been great, so I went with the JK.

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It's like the guy who buys a $300 pair of sneakers just to walk around looking good(Hummers). Then, you have the guy who wears a cheap pair of sneakers, and is always on the court(Jeepers).
See, it's things like this that perpetuate the hate. Statements like this imply that every Jeep owner takes their Jeep offroad, while no Hummer owners take theirs offroad.

I can assure you there are far more soccer-mom poser Jeeps than there are soccer-mom poser Hummers, simply because more Jeeps have been produced. The ratio of Hummers that see any wheeling, and the ratio of Jeeps that see any wheeling, are probably about the same.

H3s are good vehicles. If they weren't, you wouldn't see guys like Rod Hall winning the Baja 1000 stock class in H3s..

I'd wheel an H3.
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Also, to expand on the above example..

How is the Jeeper represented by a "cheap" pair of shoes? Since when are Jeeps cheap? A JKRU cost just as much as an H3, new for new..
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H3s are very capable trail rigs. Especially with the Adventure Package and the factory lockers.
Sorry but the IFS in the H3 just is too much of a liability. Sure, you an add some travel to the suspension and throw some lockers under it but it's still a second tier 4x4 compared to a more capable design. Throw some lockers on a Jeep and you have a Rubicon that can wheel circles around every other off-the-showroom floor 4x4.

You can lift either one and throw bigger tires on either one. And the more you lift, the more you uncover the limitations of IFS, to the point where it's cheaper and easier just to do a solid axle swap. And then you're more or less on the same playing field.

That's not hate. That's years and years of experience wheeling with all kinds of vehicles. I've seen great drivers and terrible drivers in all kinds of rigs. Factory IFS just doesn't measure up to solid axles on the trails.

That being said, I have some very good friends who wheel IFS equipped rigs on moderate to difficult trails. We're all modified in one way or another. All of us have lockers, lifts and bigger tires. We have a blast going out and hitting the trails together. When one of us gets stuck, the others never hesitate to throw a strap or a winch line to help. We make fun of each other all the time because we all know it's in good fun. But that's why we hang out together. We have a bunch of fun when we wheel and it doesn't matter what you bring to drive. It only matters that we all run the same trails together having fun.
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i don't hate the H1 hummers, but the newer gens were just another luxury gas guzzler... around my way whenever you seen one they were always on 22s or bigger sized wheels, i recall once seeing a gold colored ladder on the rear to access the roof of it...
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In my opinion a four door jeep is just a hummer wannabe.
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I off-road in my four door jeep all the time. Tight wood trails and rock crawling. No problems. Every Hummer I've ever seen off-roading ends up having issues. H2s and H3s are mall crawlers. Wranglers can be mall crawlers or off-road ready right off the lot. As far as four door Wranglers you see more and more of them being used as rescue and recovery vehicles because of their carrying capacity. The H1s are great if you want to move in and out of desert war zones. Not designed for heavy rocks in wooded areas. Not a negative they are just a different tool for a different job.

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