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Old 08-17-2010, 12:27 PM   #31
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I definately think dual tops is the way to go. I bought mine with dual. The hard top is handy for cold cold but if you think you are going to want the topless no doors feeling the soft top is way easier to remove or take down. I won't be putting my hard top back on until um well ever probably. The soft top isn't that loud. And as InfernoGirl stated " It's a Jeep, you gotta be tough to own one!" If you cant handle a little noise then buy a hummer.

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Old 08-17-2010, 12:28 PM   #32
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My Jeep ins my ONLY vehicle now. I have a hard top on it because I do a lot of highway driving when I travel and often have a lot of people in the Jeep. And the hard top is not that hard to remove either, takes me about 10 mins.
Also, it get hot a mother effer here... it seems to keep cooler than my 06 TJ ever did with a soft top. I've tried both and I prefer a hard top for what fits me and my lifestyle. Which I suggest you do the same. Make your choice based on your lifestyle, likes and dislikes... If it is your Jeep, do as you wish... so long as it stays offroad worthy.

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My hardtop is well enough insulated that during heat-it's cool and on the freeway, it's quiet enough that my wife can use her cell phone (or bluetooth-CB) in total comfort-

The only freeway travel is I80, to Truckee in the Sierras, then N/S on hiwy89

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I prefer my Jeep to have the manual roll up windows, have to unlock it with a key...its JEEP, i find it odd when a co worker of mine sets her alarm on her 4 door Jeep and I hear it beep signaling that the doors are locked. WOW I think to myself, did that just really happen? lol
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Hi! I'm looking into getting my first car, and I want a Jeep Wranger. Everyone I talk to says "Get a Hard top!" They say soft tops are bad for may reasons, including excessive noise, they rip/tear easily, and it makes winters brutal.

So I've been shopping around on a lot of different dealerships in my area, and all the jeep wranglers I love have soft tops, and all the Hard top jeeps I'm not too impressed with. So my question(s) really is(are), can I not buy a Soft top jeep and just buy a hard top for the particular model/year? or are tops not interchangable? Is there any additional special hardware I have to buy besides the top to make it compatible?

Thanks in advance for the help!
I have a hard top and I've been trying to trade for a factory soft top for a while now.

I've driven with the soft top in winter for many years (another Jeep I owned) and had no problems with it being "brutal" and I live in the lake effects snow belt on lake Michigan. They are noisy compared to the hard top, but nothing horrible. I never had a problem with my top spontaneously ripping or anything.

I prefer soft tops.

But the hard top gives you the luxury of locking your Jeep up (with metal doors). I prefer the handiness of being able to drop the top in good weather.
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I could hear the tires hit the potholes, I could hear the asphalt as I increased speed, I could hear engine noise from cars that I passed/passed by me, I could hear the plastic windows flapping, I could hear the tires hit each bump in the road on the highway.........
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I testdrove a Soft top today. I got it up to 60mph and I could hardly hear a thing. Nothing the radio cant fix. I'll definatly get a soft top!
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It's a Jeep, you gotta be tough to own one! Imagine life with no power windows, door locks, or mirrors.....
I'm as tough as they come. I military press my hard top when I take it off and put it on just for fun. but it's not about being tough. It's about if you use a Jeep as a daily driver and spend a lot of time on the road you don't want hear a bunch noise and have to have your stereo cranked up all the way all the time in order to cancel out exterior noise. I prefer to be civilized on the weekdays. The weekends are for going topless.
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the soft top doesnt seem that much different than a regular convertible except the plastic windows. i think there is no right choice if you have to pick one or the other. the only right choice is both. if you like the ones that have a softtop on now then go that way and get a used hardtop. thats what im doing. i do have one question. will the hardtop fit over the soft top or do you have to take it off first? oh yea and what is a bikini top? how is it different?
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I'm as tough as they come. I military press my hard top when I take it off and put it on just for fun. but it's not about being tough. It's about if you use a Jeep as a daily driver and spend a lot of time on the road you don't want hear a bunch noise and have to have your stereo cranked up all the way all the time in order to cancel out exterior noise. I prefer to be civilized on the weekdays. The weekends are for going topless.
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the soft top doesnt seem that much different than a regular convertible except the plastic windows. i think there is no right choice if you have to pick one or the other. the only right choice is both. if you like the ones that have a softtop on now then go that way and get a used hardtop. thats what im doing. i do have one question. will the hardtop fit over the soft top or do you have to take it off first? oh yea and what is a bikini top? how is it different?
May depend on what year your jeep is but on my JK it cam be dual equipped. The soft top just folds down and the hard top goes right over it. No problems or issues with having both on except the space the soft top takes up.
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May depend on what year your jeep is but on my JK it cam be dual equipped. The soft top just folds down and the hard top goes right over it. No problems or issues with having both on except the space the soft top takes up.
Dual tops are an option on all Wranglers. They are shipped with both tops installed to save space. Once delivered to the owner, one of the tops should be removed. Running the hard top over the soft creates premature wear in the soft top as is noted in the owners manual. If you want to run the hard top, get the soft top out of there, you are rubbing holes in it.
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and if you buy the quick disco's for the soft top, removal is even easier than using a screw driver!
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Dual tops are an option on all Wranglers. They are shipped with both tops installed to save space. Once delivered to the owner, one of the tops should be removed. Running the hard top over the soft creates premature wear in the soft top as is noted in the owners manual. If you want to run the hard top, get the soft top out of there, you are rubbing holes in it.
I don't have both on. It came with both installed. My hard top is collecting dust in the garage. How would it be rubbing holes in the soft top with both installed?
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If the soft top is installed under the hard top, there can be areas where the soft top contacts the hard top. Friction occurs when the two surfaces meet, and eventually, with enough friction a worn spot or hole will appear. Do as you wish, it is your top, but Bestop and Chrysler will both tell you not to leave the soft top installed under the hardtop for this reason.
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If the soft top is installed under the hard top, there can be areas where the soft top contacts the hard top. Friction occurs when the two surfaces meet, and eventually, with enough friction a worn spot or hole will appear. Do as you wish, it is your top, but Bestop and Chrysler will both tell you not to leave the soft top installed under the hardtop for this reason.
I understand what you are saying. When I bought mine both were installed but they never made contact with each other. The soft was rolled up and secured in the back. Thank you for the tips! I'm new to jeep so I'm still learning.
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Well, that explains it.... Have you folded down the top yet? It never goes down quite as neatly for the average person.... I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't want you to think no harm can come from this, and then others read it and think the same thing... I am the worst about doing a neat job of folding my top, my husband does a much nicer job than I, but I still think if we put a hard top over it, it would rub. And I guess the new JK's don't come with instruction books, but I know my owner's manual specifically says not to do that, so I just try to share the info I pick up along the way....
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No disrespect to soft top owners but ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????

Before I bought my 07' Sahara hard top I test drove a 09' soft top and I could hear EVERYTHING. I could hear the tires hit the potholes, I could hear the asphalt as I increased speed, I could hear engine noise from cars that I passed/passed by me, I could hear the plastic windows flapping, I could hear the tires hit each bump in the road on the highway.........

Hell no.
I like being in tune to what's around me. I like to hear what's going on out there. I think this whiney post against soft tops has me sold to get rid of my hard top. Thanks AirDWN, haha
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I have a hard top... that I use in the winter ... I will put it on when it get's too cold to put the soft top down ... like, November. I love my soft top, its down as much as I can keep it down ... Except these last two weeks while I am waiting on repairing it.
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Jim!

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J-Rock!

As InfernoGirl mentioned above, it's NOT recommended to have both tops on at once. I've got an '09, and my Owner's Manual (an actual Book... not that Bastage CD...) states to REMOVE the Soft Top, if the Hard Top is installed. BTW, if there is damage sustained to the Soft Top as a result of having the Hard Top over it, then your Jeep Dealer MAY NOT repair/replace the Soft Top under Warranty.

Paul Wrangler!

My Jeep came with a Hard Top when I bought it last year. I wanted one with a Soft Top, so I could experience the, "Jeep Adventure"! I Traded the Dealer the Hard Top for a Soft Top, plus used the difference in $$$ for some Mopar Accessories at their Parts Department. I drove around with the Hard Top for a week, while I waited for my Dealer Appointment to have the Tops switched. I felt it was too confining, and didn't like that my visibility was hampered by the Rear Wiper box. After the Soft Top was installed, I could hear some of the outside noise, but I liked that. Now, my Soft Top is Down most of the time, and I have a Sun Bonnet over the front part of my Jeep, to keep the direct Texas Heat directly off of me.

Ideally, the Dual Top Option is the best of both worlds, if you have somewhere to store your Hard Top. The Mopar Storage Dolly would be great to have, and would let you store your Top, Freedom Panels, and Doors on it, conveniently out of the way.

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Thanx Bb, I did that because of my previous comments about the heavy fog my little Nevada town gets, in the early mornings !!


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J-Rock!

As InfernoGirl mentioned above, it's NOT recommended to have both tops on at once. I've got an '09, and my Owner's Manual (an actual Book... not that Bastage CD...) states to REMOVE the Soft Top, if the Hard Top is installed. BTW, if there is damage sustained to the Soft Top as a result of having the Hard Top over it, then your Jeep Dealer MAY NOT repair/replace the Soft Top under Warranty.

Paul Wrangler!

My Jeep came with a Hard Top when I bought it last year. I wanted one with a Soft Top, so I could experience the, "Jeep Adventure"! I Traded the Dealer the Hard Top for a Soft Top, plus used the difference in $$$ for some Mopar Accessories at their Parts Department. I drove around with the Hard Top for a week, while I waited for my Dealer Appointment to have the Tops switched. I felt it was too confining, and didn't like that my visibility was hampered by the Rear Wiper box. After the Soft Top was installed, I could hear some of the outside noise, but I liked that. Now, my Soft Top is Down most of the time, and I have a Sun Bonnet over the front part of my Jeep, to keep the direct Texas Heat directly off of me.

Ideally, the Dual Top Option is the best of both worlds, if you have somewhere to store your Hard Top. The Mopar Storage Dolly would be great to have, and would let you store your Top, Freedom Panels, and Doors on it, conveniently out of the way.

MOPAR 82210645 - MOPAR® Hard Top Storage Dolly for 07-10 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec

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I stand corrected. I did go back and reread that part of the manual that states don't use both. My confusion was with the fact that mine was in a boot when I bought it and there was no contact between them so I didn't see the harm. I will do more research next time. Thanks for setting me straight.
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I went with my YJ, 1/2 doors, sound bar, and soft top because I like the rugged simplicity in my Jeep. ( I have a hard top in storage that came with it.) Not a care if I get scratches. No monthly payments and only liability insurance.
I have other SUV's, trucks and cars with AC, auto trans, auto start, power windows and locks if I need them.
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Really? Are you serious?

This coming from the guy that's afraid to drive through puddle of water in his Jeep?
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I like being in tune to what's around me. I like to hear what's going on out there. I think this whiney post against soft tops has me sold to get rid of my hard top. Thanks AirDWN, haha
You want to be in touch with what's around you. That's great.

If I want to be in touch with everything around me while I'm driving down the highway I'll ride my Harley.

When I commute to work everyday I prefer the hard top.

Besides, instead of worrying about going soft or hard top I'd rather just take the rear top off and leave the t-tops on. Or I can just leave the rear top on, take the t-tops off and tuck them behind the back seat. Best of both worlds.

I have no problems with storage especially since if I take the whole top off I can simply stack the t-tops inside the rear top and tuck it neatly next to the washer and dryer in the garage.
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I've owned 3, and my experience is this material is very tough. I have never had a tear in normal conditions, and the idea it's too cold for the heater to warm up is just silly. The noise? Ah, that a "feature" and a privilege of driving a jeep!
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AirDWN... my Suzuki X-90 has T-tops i just put in the trunk!!!! T tops are great.
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AirDWN... my Suzuki X-90 has T-tops i just put in the trunk!!!! T tops are great.
Hell yeah!! Why the Jeep designers never thought to make a versatile hard top from the get-go is beyond me. And the fact that the JK rear seat simply folds over and pops up makes it that much easer to stuff the t-tops in the back.
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Hell yeah!! Why the Jeep designers never thought to make a versatile hard top from the get-go is beyond me. And the fact that the JK rear seat simply folds over and pops up makes it that much easer to stuff the t-tops in the back.
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