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Old 03-04-2012, 08:50 AM   #1
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stock bumper not strong enough for winch ?

Is that why I never see a winch on one ?

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Old 03-04-2012, 09:10 AM   #2
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Is that why I never see a winch on one ?
Lots of people put a winch on the stock bumper, both full-length and stubby. Just need to buy a mounting plate kit. Lots of different ones, from in-your-face big to almost completely hidden.

Two things: You'll most likely have to get a vacuum pump relocation bracket (for '12's), and you should check the front spring rates on your Jeep (info in the links below) to see how much sag you'll get adding a heavy winch to the front bumper. If your spring rates are, say, 13's, you'll get a good bit of sag; if they're 19's, not so much.

Also, consider a winch with synthetic cable, such as WARN's VR-series winches. Synthetic is lighter, and far less dangerous than wire cable, although it's easier to abrade on rocks and such.

Does a winch on stock bumper affect suspension or ride?
Winch Mount for Stock Bumper
Winch mount complete
winch on factory bumper?
Need help finding winch mount plate for stock bumper

And in the interests of one-stop shopping, some threads with winch info:

Synthetic rope vs. Steel cable
Massive Multi-Winch Shootout - Four Wheeler Magazine

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Old 03-04-2012, 09:31 AM   #3
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thanks for help ! after level kit my front is 1/2 INCH higher I might just go with steel bumper for weight . MALL CRAWLER YA KNOW !
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thanks for help ! after level kit my front is 1/2 INCH higher I might just go with steel bumper for weight . MALL CRAWLER YA KNOW !
Haha...nothing wrong with that. A steel bumper or a winch on the stock bumper (which would look MUCH better if you get a stubby kit, IMO) should level your Jeep out.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:13 PM   #5
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agree I see on in my future .
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:51 PM   #6
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Hey pa jay,, A guy in PA made this for me . Mounts to the frame .

He can put most any design you want on it .

If I did it again I think I would have put JEEP in the center with the AK's on the sides.


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If you buy a mounting plate the bumper really doesn't have anything to do with the strength of the winch because the plate mounts to the frame. I put a winch on my bumper and no issues so far. I can't justify spending $$$ on a bumper just to look cool when I could cut the stock one and have the same performance.
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If you buy a mounting plate the bumper really doesn't have anything to do with the strength of the winch because the plate mounts to the frame. I put a winch on my bumper and no issues so far. I can't justify spending $$$ on a bumper just to look cool when I could cut the stock one and have the same performance.
True that I just put the caps on my wish list Im going to try that way first .
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thanks for help ! after level kit my front is 1/2 INCH higher I might just go with steel bumper for weight . MALL CRAWLER YA KNOW !
Lol... Mine is NOW only 1/4 higher in the front
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Lol... Mine is NOW only 1/4 higher in the front
worst part is I can tell and it drives my crazy ! freakin OCD !
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worst part is I can tell and it drives my crazy ! freakin OCD !
Dont know if you followed my ordeal.

Most people that have installed this lift or some others do see a bit more up front.
In my case 2"

I'm sure once the hardtop comes off, I will be level. But.... Def not worried about 1/4.
Not noticeable like before. It was bad
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i see + 1 inch spacer in rear ? i didnt need the sway bar links in the rear if i up another inch I guess I will ?
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where you measuring from ? fender well ? im guessing thats with 2 inches up front picture
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where you measuring from ? fender well ? im guessing thats with 2 inches up front picture
Yes... That's the before shot

TF's kit puts 3" front and 2" back.

Did not matter where I measured from.
Ground to flare or mid wheel to flare, I was
up almost 2" in the front. The spacers gave me back 1 1/4"

Check out my "need measurements" thread.

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http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/nee...se-140221.html
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Talking Well dond Wolfman............

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Lots of people put a winch on the stock bumper, both full-length and stubby. Just need to buy a mounting plate kit. Lots of different ones, from in-your-face big to almost completely hidden.

Two things: You'll most likely have to get a vacuum pump relocation bracket (for '12's), and you should check the front spring rates on your Jeep (info in the links below) to see how much sag you'll get adding a heavy winch to the front bumper. If your spring rates are, say, 13's, you'll get a good bit of sag; if they're 19's, not so much.

Also, consider a winch with synthetic cable, such as WARN's VR-series winches. Synthetic is lighter, and far less dangerous than wire cable, although it's easier to abrade on rocks and such.

Does a winch on stock bumper affect suspension or ride?
Winch Mount for Stock Bumper
Winch mount complete
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And in the interests of one-stop shopping, some threads with winch info:

Synthetic rope vs. Steel cable
Massive Multi-Winch Shootout - Four Wheeler Magazine
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Kbwwolf I vote we make you the official “WF” librarian Everybody else agree
Agreed.

However, I don't want to see him wearing reading glasses and a plaid skirt.
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Agreed.

However, I don't want to see him wearing reading glasses and a plaid skirt.
Yikes! I don't wanna see that either.

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