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Old 03-07-2007, 01:39 AM   #1
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Stroker & E85/E100?

Well after doing much reading to see what will be needed in the next few years to convert my motorcycle to ethanol, i have unconvers some interesting things.

E85&E100 seem to work best with modified igition timings, stronger sparks, and higher compresion. So far i have seen about a 3-5 deg retard over gas, mixed with a 10:-11:1 seem to be the best set ups. well the stroker motors are right in that range. Just curious if anyone has given it a shot. Ethanol is actually supposed to gain power and fuel mileage when used in an engine set correctly, because it can burn more efficent then gas can.

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I've never come in contact with Ethanol vehicles out here in AZ yet. I did some checking a while ago and there was only like 2 places in the whole state to get fuel from. Neither of them were in Phoenix. The position your statement represents sounds logical to me however.

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So far i have seen about a 3-5 deg retard over gas, mixed with a 10:-11:1 seem to be the best set ups.
Retard over gas, HA, i cant say that without laughing
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Yeah, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep all have what they call Flex Fuel engines now. They can run either E85 or Regular unleaded. Really the only difference between the two being the fact that E85 is much more corrosive to rubber seals and plastics. Much more so than gasoline. However most unleaded gas engines can run E10 with no modifications.

There are over 50,000 fuel stations in the U.S. that have E85. The California emissions states do not allow E85 yet. Which kind of confuses me, because E85 is supposed to release less green house gases into the atmosphere and burn cleaner than gasoline.

Also, E85 will not gain you any mpg's. That is a myth.

Sorry, but I just had to do a whole certification course on E85 last week.
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The California emissions states do not allow E85 yet. Which kind of confuses me, because E85 is supposed to release less green house gases into the atmosphere and burn cleaner than gasoline.
well that is cause cali is weird lol.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...hp&carnum=3108

this is a link about saabs e100 car... b/c you can gain more power with e100/e85, you now can use a smaller engine with = hp as a larger one, or larger gears if i understand engines right
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Yeah, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep all have what they call Flex Fuel engines now. They can run either E85 or Regular unleaded. Really the only difference between the two being the fact that E85 is much more corrosive to rubber seals and plastics. Much more so than gasoline. However most unleaded gas engines can run E10 with no modifications.

There are over 50,000 fuel stations in the U.S. that have E85. The California emissions states do not allow E85 yet. Which kind of confuses me, because E85 is supposed to release less green house gases into the atmosphere and burn cleaner than gasoline.

Also, E85 will not gain you any mpg's. That is a myth.

Sorry, but I just had to do a whole certification course on E85 last week.
I tried running E85 in my 03 Explorer which is able to run it. My mpg went down...and power too. And when the 4.6 V8 only gets about 12.5-16mpg already....just cant afford to loose much more.
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