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Old 07-12-2013, 12:22 PM   #1
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Synthetic rope brand differences -- Warn Spydura vs Viking Amsteel Blue

People's opinions are like snowflakes... they are all different

But what I'm trying to find out is why is Warn Spydura synthetic line is approximately $60 less than the equivalent line from Viking for 3/8" 100ft synthetic line. From just looking at them the thimble looks a little different on the Warn line but I'm new to all things winchy just trying to learn here.

I have a Warn 9.5cti that I want to replace the 125ft of steel line with 100ft synthetic for weight reasons.

Jeep Winch Line - Quadratec

Any reason I should spend $60 more on the Viking product?

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Bueller? Anyone?

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I bought 150' of Amsteel Blue and a Viking safety thimble from Greg in Missouri for $310.
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I bought 150' of Amsteel Blue and a Viking safety thimble from Greg in Missouri for $310.
That sounds like a good dea although I'm not familiar with "Greg"

I still don't know why Spydura is less expensive.
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I saw this on expeditionportal - Synthetic Winchline question. - Page 4 - Expedition Portal

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Is the Warn Spydura made from the same stuff that the Amsteel-Blue is?
True Amsteel Blue is 100% Dyneema fiber (there are a lot of imitators calling themselves "Amsteel Blue," however. This is like the old "Kleenex" vs. "facial tissue" or "Rollerblade" vs. "inline skates" deal). WARN Spydura uses Dyneema and UHMC (ultra high molecular compound) fibers. In addition, Spydura is coated with urethane, has a special braid construction, and a temperature-resistant coating on the first layer of the drum.
So it appears the statement from Warn is that they are the same, with minor composition/treatment changes. One thing to watch is that it doesn't seem like Warn publishes breaking strength and instead says it's good for winches rated for 10k lbs. I would prefer to compare both from stated strength. They also could have different melting points, but not sure the rated temps.
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That sounds like a good dea although I'm not familiar with "Greg"

I still don't know why Spydura is less expensive.
If you want Greg's phone number PM me.
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I'd like know more about the differences too.

I'm in the market to buy Synthetic line for my Warn Winch, and have been leaning towards Viking. But if Warn is the same, and cheaper, it's a no brainer.

BUT, it does seem like Viking has more color options...
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By the way, pre-tensioning the wire rope evenly on the drum was a big pain in the posterior. I'm sure hoping someone will tell me it's easier to get the synthetic rope wound evenly under tension.
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By the way, pre-tensioning the wire rope evenly on the drum was a big pain in the posterior. I'm sure hoping someone will tell me it's easier to get the synthetic rope wound evenly under tension.
Have the Warn 8000s. It was a cinch.
Brought the jeep to Lowe's parking lot at zero-dark-thirty (closed).
Light tension on the parking brake, tied to a light pole's concrete anchor.
Done in 10 minutes (by myself).
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Have the Warn 8000s. It was a cinch.
Brought the jeep to Lowe's parking lot at zero-dark-thirty (closed).
Light tension on the parking brake, tied to a light pole's concrete anchor.
Done in 10 minutes (by myself).
That's good to know. My driveway is long enough to unspool my 125 foot of rope and anchor it to a 6x6 gate post. With the wire rope I can get the first layer wound correctly but that second layer and beyond wants to jump windings when it's under load and because the fairlead is not as wide as the drum the wire doesn't want to go to the edge of the drum before turning back. When I'd get enough slack to try and push it together it would loosen the previous layer underneath. I eventually got it all wound back on under tension but I couldn't do it the way the instructions dictated (stand to the side)and had to hold onto the cable and pull it in one direction or the other while it respooled. Grabbing the wire while it was under tension was unnerving given all the talk I've read about it breaking and slicing you in half. Maybe once it has a "memory" of being wound correctly it will go back on better but it has definitely made me want to switch to synthetic for handling reasons alone.
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IMO....Hands down get Master Pull, price be dammed

If you read Warn's Spydura specs it states to replace the line every year.
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So I've heard no compelling arguments against the Warn Spydura rope. A major internet retailer has Spydura rope priced very cheap this week and another major internet Jeep parts retailer does price matching so I went ahead and ordered the Warn Spydura with a Warn fairlead and winch stopper for $120 less than Viking rope and safety thimble alone. Not entirely apples to apples but it left me with the exact amount needed for a set of KC driving lights (which I WILL use frequently on our deer-ridden backroads around here).

For as little use as I will make of the winch there's little point in going with the spendy stuff. If my life ever permits wheeling more than once every few months then maybe I'll find a need for high dollar winch rope.
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IMO....Hands down get Master Pull, price be dammed

If you read Warn's Spydura specs it states to replace the line every year.
Indeed it does. However this is mostly due to potential line degradation due to UVA and moisture trapping. I cover the spool section with a black, breathable cloth (no lie, a black placemat from bed bath & beyond). I anticipate it lasting much longer.

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