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Old 01-26-2014, 10:16 PM   #31
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I liked the way the 2 felt today much more.
When we test drove a few we were impressed with the tight turning radius of the 2-dr, compared to our old GT Cruiser that had the turning radius of a school bus. We removed the rear seat and permanently put it in storage in the basement a few days after we drove it home. There's just the two of us and no need for more than two seats.

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Old 01-27-2014, 09:34 AM   #32
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I just went through the exact same thing. For a few months I asked co-workers who have jeeps about their thoughts and they all love them. Mpg was a concern, potentially going from an accord with 24ish mpg to what would be a significant drop to 16 with a jeep. Removing the hard top, road noise, all the same concerns, I just went through.
Mpg, it's a jeep, that's what I/we wanted and were ready to deal with it.
Road noise and driving comfort were amazing. Nothing like I thought. Very little road noise with the hard top. While it does not "ride on rails" as my wife says, comparing it to our accords, it does drive smooth and comfortable.
After several test drives of different Sahara years, we ran across a 2013 4 door Sahara with 13k miles for $31,400. It was perfect! While above our price range, it was under the blue and black book value. We sucked it up and bought it 2 days ago. With the anticipation of spring and summer drives to the beach with the top off, my wife and I were overjoyed with the deal.
It is a huge investment and you should be concerned and have questions. If you are like us and know what you want, you can overlook certain things, mpg, road noise, comfort compared to a sports car, knowing that the fun aspect far out weighs those concerns. We are very pleased with it and look forward to warmer weather.
Ps, it was 45 yesterday and we drove with front hard top off just for kicks. While it was very cold, it was a blast! Soooo glad we found the one we were looking for.

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Old 01-27-2014, 10:30 AM   #33
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It is a big move from a nimble car to a jeep, but I drove a few larger SUVs over the weekend and frankly they felt more awkward than the 2 door Jeep.

I would be doing the soft-top full-time and that's my concern. I realized I will not be able to deal with the hard top. With the hard top, the noise was average. Not an issue. With the soft if was an issue on the highway at speed but not terrible. If I went with hard top I'd have to leave it on and only use the t-top aspect. Don't know if that's worth it. My decision would have been made already if I only had a garage!
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I have a soft top with no garage, and it's suprisingly okay. I'm in Michigan and this winter is brutal, but the Jeep heat is awesome and driving in the snow is a blast!
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:13 PM   #35
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It is a big move from a nimble car to a jeep, but I drove a few larger SUVs over the weekend and frankly they felt more awkward than the 2 door Jeep.

I would be doing the soft-top full-time and that's my concern. I realized I will not be able to deal with the hard top. With the hard top, the noise was average. Not an issue. With the soft if was an issue on the highway at speed but not terrible. If I went with hard top I'd have to leave it on and only use the t-top aspect. Don't know if that's worth it. My decision would have been made already if I only had a garage!
It is a bummer about the garage.....it really, really helps. I built my own hoist, and it makes removing the top a 1 person job while also being able to park under it nose first at night (when the garage is actually clean....)...


I lot of people rock soft tops all year long...even in cold weather locations....and the new premium tops are really nice.

You just have to treat the vehicle a bit differently than you would other vehicles...especially the 2 doors because the underseat lockboxes don't fit the +2012's due to the fold'and'tumble seat design.

Basically, remember to not keep anything of value EVER in your vehicle. Even with a hard top don't do it....but with a soft top, anyone can get it at anytime by simply unzipping the window.

A Wrangler is the world's most unsecure vehicle. Some people with soft tops don't even bother to lock their doors.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:28 PM   #36
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I have a soft top with no garage, and it's suprisingly okay. I'm in Michigan and this winter is brutal, but the Jeep heat is awesome and driving in the snow is a blast!
Come on! Michigan is a tropical paradise!

my concern with year-round soft is not having the rear defrost and the potential of having visibility impaired from again plastic windows. And of course security.

Though I"m guessing Ice doesn't stick to the plastic windows as much???
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:46 PM   #37
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test rode the 2 door again today and have concluded that I will go with the 2 door sahara automatic if I get one at all. Also determined I'd have to go soft top full time. Therein lies the problem. Going the entire winter with the soft top un-garaged is an unerving proposition. I'm not going to go hard top full time and wind up just using it like a t-top in nice weather, That to me is a waste. So at least now I know what direction I'd have to take.

I liked the way the 2 felt today much more. I drove manual and auto 2 and 4 door (yes I took 4 vehicles) and concluded the auto 2 door felt the best. I really liked it. I also drove soft and hard tops and got to take the soft 2 door out on the highway. Noisy but bearable. Stereo in the new Sahara is great. Cabin took a while to get warm so heated seated would be in order. I also didn't see that the back seat flipped totally up and out of the way yesterday. That changed my opinion allot. These salesmen have to learn their shyte. All in all I liked it very much today.
You will learn to hate that back seat with it flipped up. It doesn't lock forward. Every time you accelerate, it will flop down, and every time you brake, it will slam up against your seat with a bang.

Pull it out if you don't need it.
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:35 PM   #38
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A Wrangler is the world's most unsecure vehicle.
I dunno...I wouldn't leave anything of value laying on my motorcycle seat.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:40 PM   #39
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I dunno...I wouldn't leave anything of value laying on my motorcycle seat.
I left my ex-wife on one once... no one took her

So it's the two door hard top for me . I concluded even using just the freedom tops like T-tops was worth it. Beats a regular sun-roof by miles.
should I come by a garage in the future I'll get an aftermarket soft top.

Ordering it tomorrow..
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Call around, try to find a place that will rent you one for a week. Then you'll have a better idea. It may not be cheap to rent one but could save you from making a mistake.
Very wise post! I completely agree, a weeks rental worth every cent. I would recommend you test drive both the 2 dr and 4 dr. I chose the 4 dr over a 2 dr for much more room and a smoother less choppy ride, no regrets. to each his own. Good luck!

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