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Old 06-29-2008, 03:39 PM   #1
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tiny wanks Shrockworks sliders FTW...

Unlimited, Cain, and I went to a new local place to do a little rock climbing. Not far into it, and I should have known this looking at the rigs lined up, I realized I was in over my head... because my tires were too small.

I climbed a few places, scraped up my rocksliders pretty good, and finally said enough was enough. We spent the rest of the day watching various people snap u-joints, axles, driveshafts and whatnot. It was great fun.

This morning we decided to take a look at the sliders and realized that I'd bent one when I dropped down onto it.



Now that rail was perfectly straight, I have pictures of when I installed them.

So, after some discussion, Cain and I decided that the damn thing was pulling the tub out so we took out the bolt.














Yup. BENT. So um...... that's not supposed to happen right?

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Better than smashing the rockers.

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thats pretty good, i thought you could jack you rig up by those, and bounce them off rocks all day long with no probs. i'm thinking about getting those, how do you like them after that? seems like they saved you tub right.
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:00 PM   #4
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Actually, they didn't save my tub. I was wedged because I had them and I bounced off the outer tube. The rock wouldn't have touched the tub at all from the look of it.

I like them, don't get me wrong, but I'm a mild wheeler. I have a MILD rig, a very mild one. Maybe it was the odd angle, maybe it was the logo cutout, I don't know. But they should not have bent like that.


Oh, and Dave, I've bounced off a number rocks before and never so much as scraped the paint on the tub. Not sure what happened.
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Yep, you wanked 'em good! You must have really dropped harder than you thought, cuz those look really heavy, but you sure did bend it good! Are you gonna call the mfg?
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:15 PM   #6
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It's funny, because I don't remember dropping down that hard, though the cheers from the peanut gallery signaled it was quite a feat, but Cain says it was a hell of a kaboom.

Anyways, yeah, I'll get in touch with Shrockworks. Don't know exactly what they'll do, I sure as heck ain't shipping it back on my dime.
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It's funny, because I don't remember dropping down that hard, though the cheers from the peanut gallery signaled it was quite a feat, but Cain says it was a hell of a kaboom.

Hell yeah! But it was more a a KA-Fawkin-BOOM!!! My life flashed before my eyes. There was a bright light... Although I didn't expect it to be red-orange and warm, but there was light none the less. And when I came to... I found that my sphincter had bitten a hole in Tiny's seat.
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Once again, CCain delivering just a little more detail than we needed to know!

Who was the primary photographer on your trip? The dude in the ZJ and the Scrambler owe somebody a few bucks! Was that CJ8 as tuff as it looks in the pictures?
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:34 PM   #9
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That CJ continued to wheel with a broken u-joint, axle, and the bolt holding on his rear leaf. Said he still had three wheels left. It was pretty damned tough.

And Cain, you owe me for that seat.
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There weren't any dirty dishes that needed cleaning today? Leave the wheeling for the boys.
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There weren't any dirty dishes that needed cleaning today? Leave the wheeling for the boys.
Is that the reason you hardly ever wheel?
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Well to summarize: Tiny Bent the Unbendable... Stay away from my Unbreakable Comb!
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There's an old saying: If you can't run with the big dogs, then you best stay on the porch.

It's just another badge of honor for your rig. You're not going soft on us Tiny are you?
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:47 AM   #14
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Running with the big dogs is one thing, but there's a reason trails are rated. I wouldn't encourage a stock jeep to go over JohnBull. Has nothing to do with going soft. I learned my limits the hard way in the ring, I'm not doing the same thing with my jeep. I wheel to have fun, not to break shit. I see no reason to roll through a place I know my jeep cannot make it through.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:10 PM   #15
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I did something like that last sumer. only I got talked into going on the black trails at a local off-road place here. That event seriously re-defined my internal limits. I didn't break anything but I sure had more gray hair than when I started.
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Don't get me wrong though... it was a serious blow to my ego to quit.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:32 PM   #17
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Don't get me wrong though... it was a serious blow to my ego to quit.
Yeah, I understand completely. One of the guys in our group was driving an XJ that had a bad alternator so I towed him off the course. It was an honorable way to quit. Otherwise, I was going to opt out. My nerves were completely shot.

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nice! its 3/16 steel and wouldve happened if it was PSC or whatever too. pretty much all mfrs use 3/16. you should see my sliders they are hideous and definitely warped into my sheetmetal after 4 yrs.

in fact I left a msg for Joe at AO to see about finally ordering some new ones but without the bars. the bars when hit from below push the upper part of the sliders into the tub while pulling the lower part of the sliders out and away from the tub. mine looks like yours but 200x uglier.

The sheet metal is all hidden under the armor so I don't mind if its tweaked. I'll just hammer it back a little and mount up a new set of sliders. There are "gaskets" though that you can get from places like rokmen.com that protect between the tub and the bare metal icase you don't want to scratch the paint.
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You may also want to put some sealer on the top edge and sides of the slider to keep water out..once you get it fixed that is. Nothing like having rust start to form.
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do those sliders run at least to the frame mounts or is there just a small lip under the jeep?
for example a pick of my sliders under the tub
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:06 PM   #21
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They go all the way to the frame.
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There's an old saying: If you can't run with the big dogs, then you best stay on the porch.
Just a point of fact here: I've wheeled with tiny several times and even with her little 31's she keeps up with the best of them. One trip we were on together with a group, she did a lot better job getting through the obstacles that the guy with the 37's who had poured about $25k into his jeep. tiny did the smart thing on this outing and I admire the fact that she knows where her limits and the capabilities of her jeep are, and that she respects them. I, on the other hand almost rolled my Jeep on the next obstacle. I did quit after that section and then it seems that I took on the role of triple A. I jacked, winched, and towed other broken Jeeps off of obstacles.
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Okay so never mind about my post in the other thread. I do now see in fact that you hosed up your rocker. However I'm not so sure as to exactly how you did that? Is your tube bent in also? Otherwise with the tube there it seems like it'd have to bend first.

Oh, and I have the same ones as Ben does and we've been having a little conversation on our local site about the benefits of the tube. I do like them and have not ever been hosed because of them. Not everyone does like having the tube on there however.

Edit: Any manufacturer can say whatever they want. But there isn't a part or a piece of steel on earth that can't be bent. But I gaurantee you that some of the rocks you've bounced off of that barely scratched the paint on your sliders......Would've seriously HOSED up your tub had they not been on there.
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Nope, the tube doesn't look bent. Weird huh? It's bent out from the tub too, that's what's got me really puzzled. I think that the tube has to be pushed into the slider which curled the end out. It's bolted right now, but it's pulling the tub out. I need to get it in a vise I think and bend it back in.


Thanks Unlimited, it was just as entertaining watching all the fun after the initial sting wore off. I'm getting used to being the smallest.
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Just a point of fact here: I've wheeled with tiny several times and even with her little 31's she keeps up with the best of them. One trip we were on together with a group, she did a lot better job getting through the obstacles that the guy with the 37's who had poured about $25k into his jeep. tiny did the smart thing on this outing and I admire the fact that she knows where her limits and the capabilities of her jeep are, and that she respects them. I, on the other hand almost rolled my Jeep on the next obstacle. I did quit after that section and then it seems that I took on the role of triple A. I jacked, winched, and towed other broken Jeeps off of obstacles.
I have the highest respect for anyone (especially Tiny) for taking on those types of challenges. It's obvious to me that Tiny knows her stuff and knows what to do with it.

(I was just busting her chops).....

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