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Old 08-28-2013, 07:49 AM   #31
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I was on the trail the other day and crested a hill. At the bottom was a group of 7 jeeps who were obviously going to be there for quite some time, as they were in a position of having to get out and spot one another. Since I was alone, I thought they would probably let me pass, rather than wait for 1/2 hour or more for all seven jeeps to cross the obstacle. From my vantage point at the top of the hill, I could clearly see a line to get around them. I started down, and the trail boss jumped out and started throwing wtf hands out at me before we could discuss getting around each other. Then, he jumped in his rig and took a bad line and slid his jeep into mine. At this point the guy was getting pretty aggressive, and since there were 7 of them and only 1 of me I wanted out of there. I asked to exchange info so I could check for damage in a safer place, but trail boss just kept ranting and quoted some rules from an equestrian trail at me...

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Old 08-28-2013, 11:29 AM   #32
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I was on the trail the other day...
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:38 AM   #33
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He forgot the part about where OP ruined his custom plate frame. I was really hoping for that to come into play.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:02 PM   #34
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haha, while I do see your point it was a tight section and it is easier to find space around one Jeep vs around 7 of them. You are not in a race, it is a day out on the trail. If you have places to be, maybe you should not be out in BFE on a wet trail. It did not look like this that is for sure.

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Old 08-28-2013, 12:43 PM   #35
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I was looking for the" I was making a video about" !
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:49 PM   #36
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He forgot the part about where OP ruined his custom plate frame. I was really hoping for that to come into play.
Gold chain frame plates are getting hard to find. No need to hate.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:46 PM   #37
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since this was about etiquette

i got to point out im a noob... i bought my JK half a year ago...

I had heard you should always yield way to uphill traffic and bikes... but i also figure you should be polite... so not sure if im for the OP...but...

Since the thread is about trail etiquette... now how about this... it was very basic area i was ridding with a friend ( stock jeeps should have no problems) when suddenly we were crossing quite small ditch, not wider than 10 inches, which shouldn't be a problem...

i got to a point out that we had crossed this place before...

All of a sudden the dich kind off collapsed and literally swallowed my back tires leaving me stuck ( it was now about 2 feet or so wide) and i was basicly hangging, so non of my wheels were able to make contact ...not sure if im clear...

We were there trying to figure out how to get of the bad situation in wich we were, when we saw down on the valley ( less than a mile a far) a guy with a wrangler unlimited sahara...customized...

So my friend and i kinda thought, the guy could just lend us a hand, i had recovery straps and stuff...

They guy, refused arguing his jeep wasnt for that, purpose...i was baffled.

¿Why on earth would you buy a 4wd vehicle, customize it if you are not intended to go off road? For the money he had spent on it im sure he could have gotten a quite decent sedan. And he was on the trail, so...

Anyway Im not sure if its a trail etiquette thing... or its more a humanity thing...but im pretty sure you should be able to lend a hand to someone in need if its possible to you...anyway i learned a few lessons that day...

In the end, a couple cops who were passing by on a 2wd silverado pick up gave a little pull that allowed my wheel to make contact with the surface and brake free from the ditch...

So yeah, id like the opinion on that one...
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I'm not always out to help every dummy get him self unstuck but also not everyone who gets stuck is a dummy. I f u have your wits about you and some gear I am willing to help. I just hate the stupid guy that gets stuck and has no tires and no strap no hook ups or winch or shovel. If you straight out ask and don't mind a little teasing than I'm there.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:11 PM   #39
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With enough time and a hi-lift... Just about anything is possible. But in no way would I refuse pulling someone out in any situation. It's a pita to be stuck depending on the situation and no reason not to lend a try. It's kind of fun actually, namely to give them shit.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:06 PM   #40
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Trail etiquette might not always be common sense to someone who hasn't spent a lot of time on the trail... But I seriously doubt any insurance company isn't going to pay out to anybody when any kind of damage was done on a jeep trail. That's just silly IMO.

While I don't believe the op was in the wrong it probably would have been a good time to teach him the rules of the perverbial road b/c that's not something they teach in drivers Ed. I know I've been in situations on the trail where I've looked like I lacked some comman sense but lucky for me an old crusty dog usually schooled me in the proper etiquette without too much loss of my pride. For me it's almost always a learning lesson for me.
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Old 08-29-2013, 03:24 PM   #41
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But I seriously doubt any insurance company isn't going to pay out to anybody when any kind of damage was done on a jeep trail. That's just silly IMO.
not only will they not pay you could find yourself insurance shopping.
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Old 08-29-2013, 05:50 PM   #42
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not only will they not pay you could find yourself insurance shopping.
Entirely depends on policy. Some insure the vehicle, period. Some insure only you driving the vehicle on only public roads. Luckily out here most public trails are legal roads, so insurance has to cover them. Makes you wonder about driving through a garage door or wall... it is offroad, after all.
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:03 PM   #43
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Sounds like a teachable moment. I would urge you gregaf3, to check with the President to see if he's available to grab a beer with you and the other guy in the White House rose garden.

Seems like a good reminder to that we should:
1) Communicate early and often with others on the trail. Maybe a raised INDEX finger to signal "wait there a minute," but be sure it's clear it's your index finger.
2) Be patient with each other, remembering that we were once newbs/morons ourselves.
3) Greet others with a smile, not a WTF. (First impressions.) Even if they just pulled a dpsht move.

I would like to point out that the trial often looks quite different traveling one direction than it looks going the other way. Maybe from where he was it looked like there was a good passing spot down where you were.
Nicely put. It's funny how folks can forget where they came from and how little they once knew. I am new myself, but I will make sure I try to learn a little something before I get "the gesture". Maybe a schedule should be created so that the younger, rowdy bunch and the more laid back folks are out playing on different days! LOL.
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I was on the trail the other day and crested a hill. At the bottom was a group of 7 jeeps who were obviously going to be there for quite some time, as they were in a position of having to get out and spot one another. Since I was alone, I thought they would probably let me pass, rather than wait for 1/2 hour or more for all seven jeeps to cross the obstacle. From my vantage point at the top of the hill, I could clearly see a line to get around them. I started down, and the trail boss jumped out and started throwing wtf hands out at me before we could discuss getting around each other. Then, he jumped in his rig and took a bad line and slid his jeep into mine. At this point the guy was getting pretty aggressive, and since there were 7 of them and only 1 of me I wanted out of there. I asked to exchange info so I could check for damage in a safer place, but trail boss just kept ranting and quoted some rules from an equestrian trail at me...
OH you were in a hurry.that makes everything ok......ha!

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