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Old 02-12-2008, 08:14 PM   #1
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um... rollcage?

Found this on craigslist. I'm not sure if this is a good deal or if it actually will fit...

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says "Custom made for a TJ but could also work in a YJ and CJ-7 "

What say you all?

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Old 02-12-2008, 08:35 PM   #2
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What does the front mount to? That looks to be a weak point to me.

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I don't know where it mounts. I'm not sure where a full rollcage mounts in the front anyways, but I thought that it looked like it may be missing a bar across where the dash is? I'm really not sure.
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Might want to hollar at Mr. C., it seems to me he's got a cage that all went in one piece, he might have some input, I can't think of anyone else...
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Might want to hollar at Mr. C., it seems to me he's got a cage that all went in one piece, he might have some input, I can't think of anyone else...
Actually I believe Mr. C is running a PSC trail cage.

Tiny, one of the most important areas are the A-pillars which this cage seems to lack. You should have a piece of tubing running all the way through (or beside) the dash and through the floor. Most cages mount through the factory drain holes in the floor.

Also, I'm pretty sure all of the mounting points are different for CJ's, YJ's and TJ's. If the guy who built it doesn't know that then I would be pretty damn leary about buying a piece of safety equipment from him.

Take a look at Poison Spyder, RockHard 4x4 and A to Z Fabrication as they all make add on or full cages that should work well in your Jeep.
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Thanks Scout, I wasn't sure. I didn't think all the cages fit any jeep.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:52 PM   #7
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another thing to think about it will the cage allow you to use the factory mounts for the hard/soft top. I have the RockHard4x4 cage and it's a solid cage for a bolt on cage and it lets you use all of the factory mounting for the tops. it looks like you aren't doing anything really hard core so a bolt on might be the way to go. However, for me, if I start to do more and more hard core stuff then I'd get a custom one fabbed for my jeep.
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I can't tell from the picture, but to me the A pillar looks to be a really weak point, but maybe it mounts to the top of a set of Poison Spider front "legs" that bolt to the dash. The rest of the cage doesn't look too bad for a trail cage, but you should find out if the factory belts and tops work with it before considering it. Might be a steal if you can get it for $400 or so... But I need to see how the A pillar mounts to be sure.
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I wouldn't trust it unless you knew the person knew what he was doing when he built in my opinion.


If you are looking at a cage the OR-fab one is amazing.




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If you are looking at a cage the OR-fab one is amazing.
Lev, I would stay far far away from the ORFab sport cage. We recently destroyed one on Joe's TJ (already on there when he acquired the rig) and one little shot is split the tubing. After closer inspection the materials were inferior for what their intended purpose was.

Tiny, I'd stay away from this one too.
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What materials were inferior?

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I'm going to stay away from it Jack, and like Mr.C said in my Sledgehammer thread, I do need to look at what I really want to build.... problem is, I'm not sure. When I first got the jeep, I had no intentions of wheeling it. When I lifted it, I had no intentions of going higher..... and now I'm looking at long arms and big ass tires that will require I bring a mule team with me to chance.

I'm kinda just musing right now and looking around. But I really think axles are my first purchase.

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The tubing the cage is made out of.
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The tubing the cage is made out of.
You remember that toys by troy jeep that rolled down the hill at moab? Could of sworn her roll cage was the ORfab sport cage. Do you happen to remember if it was?

I trust what your saying might be true but it just goes against what I have read about it. What exactly happened with the cage that yall messed up? Did the jeep roll and what exactly snapped or bent? Had the cage ever been rolled before by the previous owner?

Odhinn has the orfab cage and that is the one I have been looking at because it seems like a damn strong bolt on cage.

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He needs to tie the front to something, to give you an idea this is what I did.
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You remember that toys by troy jeep that rolled down the hill at moab? Could of sworn her roll cage was the ORfab sport cage. Do you happen to remember if it was?

I trust what your saying might be true but it just goes against what I have read about it. What exactly happened with the cage that yall messed up? Did the jeep roll and what exactly snapped or bent? Had the cage ever been rolled before by the previous owner?

Odhinn has the orfab cage and that is the one I have been looking at because it seems like a damn strong bolt on cage.

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When Joe's cage went it was just a gentle layover on the side. Real slow and nothing bone jaring. It hit a rock and split the tubing right where it's drilled for the door surrounds. Upon further inspection after we pulled it all off the tubing is just weak and inferior compared to what I would want in a cage.

The cage in Tracy's roll in Moab was not ORFab it was a Toys By Troy which is a direct knock off of ORFab because Troy used to work with them and when he went out on his own he started producing the same cages and bumpers that they had done at ORFab.

To me a cage should not just protect you once and then be junk. It should be built to take repeated abuse if need be. Hell the stock setup will protect you once. The bolt in sport cages on the market today do serve a purpose. They will provide "More" protection for you than the stock setup, but they are not built nor tabbed as a "Strong" cage setup. For that you really need a fabricator to build one for you with the right geometry and materials or at the least Poison Spyder and Gen Right make a great weld up kit that increases your safety 100 fold over a "sport" cage.

Lev for the kind of wheelin that you and Odhin do a "sport" cage would probably be sufficient, but I'd look at something more from AtoZ or Rock Hard for a solution before I'd trust the ORFab or Troy's.
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Thanks for explaining I'll start looking at others then.


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Great info guys, thanks..I kind of had a cage on my list of things to do.
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Great info guys, thanks..I kind of had a cage on my list of things to do.
Not joking around, but have Scout post a couple pics of his cage in this thread. He has a very nice add on cage for his, but I can't remember exactly who it's from. I'm thinking Rockhard.
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It's RockHard. I'll find the thread I posted awhile back when I installed it.

Edit: Found it - http://www.wranglerforum.com/tj-jeep...done-8649.html
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Either way, to the op if you're thinking that you'll need an upgrade in cages then follow your gut and get that first.
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One of the best things I ever did for my jeep was to get a cage. I have come close to being on my lid more than once. I have had the jeep on the side a few times. Its nice to know I have something that isn't going to fold on me...
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Go with a weld in if at all possible. I modified and reinforced my Orfab cage to strengthen it. Double piping, grade 8's and welds in the right spots.
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Tiny - too bad you don't live here in AZ. There are a number of places within an hours drive of Phoenix that can build you a cage for anything within a day.

Another viable option is a Gen-Right cage, but that would need welding.
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Actually I believe Mr. C is running a PSC trail cage.
I am running the add on PSC trail cage with a couple extra sticks of tube. Honestly? I would much rather prefer a through the dash style cage over the legs PSC uses. It isn't impossible to add A->B tie ins but I'd personally rather run full tube to full tube.

That said... I did go the extra mile to fully weld my stock cage. All the sections that are bolted together were reinforced and welded and all the stock hardware was replaced with grade 8 stuff and capped on the back side. I don't doubt my junk in a flop but a hard roll can probably hurt. I plan to replace my cage with a complete custom jobber with frame tie ins. As soon as I get off my lazy butt and buy some DOM.

I agree with bluvikng. Don't go cheap on a roll cage. Even the best driver can end up in a bad situation.

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