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Old 03-30-2010, 09:00 AM   #1
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wax on wax off?

Been asking a lot of questions lately but this place is great so thanks everyone!

I'm sure a lot of you wax your rigs. What's the consensus on the manual carwash wax. You know what I mean, the setting on the gun in the wash bay for waxing? I know it's probably not anywhere near as good as hand waxing but do any of you do it instead of hand waxing?

With that said, can it be used to spray the softop as well? Maybe wash and rinse it then spray the whole thing with the wax setting then rinse it again? Anyone do this, any suggestions? I'm lazy and really don't want to hand wax but I will if I shouldn't spray it with the wax setting. I only want to wax it to get the mud off easier.

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Waxing by hand on a Jeep is cake.... There's almost no paint on em Give it a shot, it's good for your biceps! Girls like guys with nice biceps! And watching a guy wax his Jeep is sexy!

I wouldn't use the spray wax on the soft top, it'll likely cause a filmy residue that would be unsightly.

Seriously, it won't take 30 minutes to wax it by hand, and if you pic up an orbital buffer, (the cheap one's at AZ or sears, for like $20) it will not take any time at all. And the results will be soooo much better.

Detailing vehicles is kind of a passion for me, can ya' tell?

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I find a least once a year give it a good hand rub waxing. Do it yourself or pay to have it waxed and detailed. Then at the spray wash at the end just use the spot free rinse. That spray wax just causes a build up of film over time. You have to give it a good hand rub to get rid of general funk and oxidation build up. Also I never use soap, just water. soap takes the oils out of vinyl and plastic materials and causes cracks and fading.
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I never use soap either just the pressure washer. I have an orbital buffer so I should just do it. What kind of pad do you suggest infernogirl?
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Yea I have one to guess it's time to work out!

Like everything everyone claims to be the best, what kind of wax should I use? mothers? turtle wax? etc... and what ADKJOE said, what kind of pad?
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I never use soap either just the pressure washer. I have an orbital buffer so I should just do it. What kind of pad do you suggest infernogirl?
Is your buffer the cheap Craftsman variety? (not that that's a bad thing) One speed, that you just buy bonnets for? If so, I really like the microfiber bonnets from Wally's for them. I use them to apply and remove wax. Turtle wax used to make a great terry cloth bonnet, but I haven't seen them for a few years. The new ones are skimpy and worthless, imo. Buy a bunch of 'em, and run over it with a clean one when you are done, and it'll shine up nice. Like I said before, there is so little paint on a Wrangler that they take almost no time to wash, wax and be on the road. My last vehicle was a black Suburban, now that takes some time to shine up nice!

If you have something similar to a Makita or Porter Cable dual action buffer then I use Adams pads. I use the black pad for waxing, and remove with a microfiber towel or microfiber bonnet on my orbital.

Oh, and just a tidbit for maintaining your microfiber products.... Don't dry them in the dryer, air dry is best, and don't use fabric softener on them. I wash mine by hand, but for the Jeep that's probably overkill, but I use mine on my Charger too, and she has a brand new paint job, so I wanna keep her pretty!
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So your applying the wax with a microfiber then going over it with a clean one to remove it and that's it?
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Yep, pretty much, if you have a decent terry cloth bonnet, I'd use that to apply wax. There are some areas that you pretty much have to do by hand, so I just do all the large areas with a buffer, pull the bonnet, and fold it up and use it for the small areas. Same for removal. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy! Honestly, it takes about 15 minutes to do the whole thing, and it's soo much better when it's done. Dirt doesn't stick nearly as well and if you use a decent quality wax it should only need about once a month, or less depending on your conditions. Of course if you really want to do it right...... well, that's another story! Dawn, clay bar, polish, and wax takes a bit longer, but still just an hour or two on a lazy afternoon.... It's a nice way to spend time with your girl and rub on her and show her how much you love her....
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I just got me a Porter Cable.

now that its getting warmer I'll be using it!! WOOT WOOT!!!

gonna see if I can make my Jeep a big angry black mirror.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:44 AM   #11
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Thanks infernogirl! The men must be all over you

What do you suggest for a wax?
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Old 03-30-2010, 11:05 AM   #12
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Depends - do you want store bought? or online?

I really like Zaino - I never thought I'd try it, but a buddy bought me some (I was too cheap to try it). and its fantastic stuff.


for store bought I prefer meguires over just about everything else. i usually layer a real carnauba wax with a synthetic for best results.
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I want something I can rub on and rub off. I don't really want to mess around with multiple coats/layers. I'd prefer something I can pick up at the store, I've seen meguires,mothers, turtle, and about 50 other brands lol. I'm sure I can just pick one and get good results but I'm indecisive
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the more work you put in, the better the results....if you want simple get Meguires NXT wax.

Its a synthetic wax. initial results are pretty impressive, it hides small spiderweb scratches, and has a decent gloss.
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^^^ Exactly! Mothers or Meguiars for store bought, and the NXT is really very good. I use Adams and Chemical Guys, and really like them, but I have the others too, and they are fine if you aren't that into detailing. Glad we talked you into showing her some love! She'll appreciate it and so will you!

MrCC, you will love your PC.... Just don't loose the washer.... I highly recommend Adams pads, I have been advised to just trash the white pad that comes with the PC.
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I've been using "Mothers" Gold for a long time--on/off paste pretty easy (carnuba)

Now and then, when I've had to go thru some real close branched corridors, carry a can of "mothers" with you and very quickly slap on a coat (don't wipe off), on the sides and it will almost totally eliminate (PINSTRIPING)

I've used it that way on my black dodges/w decals--protection !!

I don't feel like I have to show (PINSTRIPS) on my vehicles

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Old 03-31-2010, 08:49 AM   #17
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Found the NXT locally, I think I might go with that. I think I might do it by hand to, I have an orbital buffer but I want to get up close and personal... you know intimate

There was a huge selection of pads, hand pads and buffer pads, I get confused lol.
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waxing a Jeep? sacrilege!!!
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Bato, if you are going to wax it by hand, all you need is a foam, or microfiber sponge pad for application. And a couple of (one good sized) microfiber towel to remove/buff.

Now get to waxing and post up some pics of your handiwork when you finish! Oh, and do it in the shade. Don't use too much product, it just wastes it and makes it harder to remove. If you feel like you want more protection, do it twice. And don't forget the wheels...


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Maybe if I waxed mine every now and then it would not be so rough looking.....my jeep that is
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I've been waxing my cars for over 55 years

Hollywood did a study on my waxing technique--before they produced the first (Karate Kid movie)--()

I had several black dodges when I had my tire shop and I made sure the sides and gold leaf advertisements were SECURE, when we went over the Sierras (often)

Waxing then was tough, but now, with all the polymers and carnuba alt's, its EASY

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Turtlewax Ice is the stuff! You can even use it on the plastic.
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I've done some impressive things by hand. It just takes more time to do it by hand than with a polisher like the porter Cable.

a buffer will decrease the effort needed somewhat, but IMHO not enough to justify its cost/hassle. I prefer hand over a r.o. buffer.

Brands of Wax are like brands of cars. all of them in the store are fairly equal. I've tried 90% of the ones in stores. I find that Meguires NXT lasts longer than Turtle wax ICE, and has better results. I also tried one called Nanowax (I believe it was mothers). it had good results, but they were short lived.

I generally throw down a layer of Carnauba, and then a layer of a synthetic. (current option is Zaino Z-CS) http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...duct_Code=Z-CS

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Lay down a coat of NXT, see how it comes out and later down the road if you want to get more technical play with some other things like Mrcc, lay down a base of carnuba etc... Try the NXT get used to waxing a vehicle, how it goes on/comes off (from your posts it sounds like you haven't waxed before) then go from there. Either way it will look much better and it will protect the paint from mud and UV rays.
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my jeep would not know how to act
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