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Old 01-04-2008, 02:38 PM   #1
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What does a Rubicon have that a Wrangler doesn't?(STOCK)

I know this question is very noobish but I was just curious.

I was at the dealership before I bought my used jeep and noticed that the Rubys were going for 30k + while the regular Wrangys were going for almost 10k less.

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Front and rear lockers, dana 44 axles, factory 31" tires on 16" wheels, fancy dancy stickers on the hood that says RUBICON.

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...and NP241 transfer case and rear disc brakes.
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You are paying for : On the new 08's anyway
Higher tension springs
17" wheels with 31 or may be 32 inch tires
Electric Sway Bar disconnect
Compressors to run the lockers
The front and rear lockers themselves
And Front and Rear Dana 44 axle assemblies
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:10 PM   #5
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Yea... I forgot about the Tcase and rear discs...

I'd say it's well worth it since most of us will want that stuff sooner or later anyway.
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Wow. So it is worth it. BTW, are they also 6 spd now? If I wanted to lift it and change the tires to 33s, am I wasting money putting it into a Ruby?

Or is the ruby stock set up fine and dandy?
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:21 PM   #7
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...wish I woulda got the rubi....would have being alot cheaper later on
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Interesting point.
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If you can swing it up front then go for the Rubicon. The axles and lockers alone make it worth it.
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Wow. So it is worth it. BTW, are they also 6 spd now? If I wanted to lift it and change the tires to 33s, am I wasting money putting it into a Ruby?

Or is the ruby stock set up fine and dandy?

like everyone here has said. most people will want a locker d44's front and rear and quick disconnect sway bars. Also from what I under stand you only need a 2" bb to clear 33's(on the jk). so in the end you will spend the same.
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TJs (03-06) D44 front/rear, Disc Brakes, Air Lockers front and rear along with the limited slip in the rear, 4:1 transfer case, 31" Goodyear MT/R tires, 4.11 gear ratios fron/rear, Rubicon sticker, stiffer springs to clear the 31s without rubbing, 16" MOAB style wheels. with the 6spd manual (05-06) I believe the crawl ratio is 92:1 in 4 low. Also, the 6pd gearing is VERY high stock with 31s. With 33s, the gear ratios are the equvilant of the 4.11 rubicons with th 5 spd. In other words, no need to regear at 33s with the 6 spd. Almost forgot, Slip yoke eliminator on the 4:1 transfer case, and upgraded U Joints.

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TJs (03-06) D44 front/rear, Disc Brakes, Air Lockers front and rear along with the limited slip in the rear, 4:1 transfer case, 31" Goodyear MT/R tires, 4.11 gear ratios fron/rear, Rubicon sticker, stiffer springs to clear the 31s without rubbing, 16" MOAB style wheels. with the 6spd manual (05-06) I believe the crawl ratio is 92:1 in 4 low. Also, the 6pd gearing is VERY high stock with 31s. With 33s, the gear ratios are the equvilant of the 4.11 rubicons with th 5 spd. In other words, no need to regear at 33s with the 6 spd. Almost forgot, Slip yoke eliminator on the 4:1 transfer case, and upgraded U Joints.

07+ JK. Not 100% possitive, but I believe it is- Discs front/rear, D44 front rear, air lockers front rear, electronic sway bar disconnect, 4:1 transfer case, rubicon stickers, 32" BFG Mud terrain tires.
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You are paying for : On the new 08's anyway
Higher tension springs
17" wheels with 31 or may be 32 inch tires
Electric Sway Bar disconnect
Compressors to run the lockers
The front and rear lockers themselves
And Front and Rear Dana 44 axle assemblies
The JK's locking diffs are electric now fella's. It was the TJ Rubi's that used air locking diffs.

Also the TJ Moab rims for the Rubicon model are a true 8" wide rim so you can put bigger tires on it without having to change them.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:49 PM   #14
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The JK's locking diffs are electric now fella's. It was the TJ Rubi's that used air locking diffs.

Also the TJ Moab rims for the Rubicon model are a true 8" wide rim so you can put bigger tires on it without having to change them.
Interesting point.
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also, the rubi doesn't have a slip yoke. which means all you need is a cv shaft and rear upper adjustables to get rid of vibrations. no sye needed.
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also, the rubi doesn't have a slip yoke. which means all you need is a cv shaft and rear upper adjustables to get rid of vibrations. no sye needed.
Actually - all JK's have CV drive shafts. But you'd better upgrade them to u-joint'd double cardin shafts.



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I think the most noticable difference without driving it would have to be the sticker price.
But yes, it does have a few nicer items on it than the stock rig.
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To sum it all up.........the Rubi has BALLS. The rest are trying hard..........
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If you want to start out with something pretty capable get a rubi. But I would rather start with my stock sahara and build it the way I want it. To me thats fun. But rubis are nice.To each his own.
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The rest are trying hard..........
And breaking sh*t trying.
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If you want to start out with something pretty capable get a rubi. But I would rather start with my stock sahara and build it the way I want it. To me thats fun. But rubis are nice.To each his own.
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:50 AM   #22
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Whichever Jeep you look at be sure to check it over good as many options where given for all models.
for example my 06 unlimited non rubicon has
dana 44 rear w/disc brakes and 4:11 gears
I may not have the transfer case, lockers or front dana 44 like a rubi but for my needs this is good for now. The main reason I chose this over a rubi was the $10,000 dollar difference in price (and the dealer wouldn't budge, I tried)
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Actually - all JK's have CV drive shafts. But you'd better upgrade them to u-joint'd double cardin shafts.
thats cool. but i was talking about TJ's. the JK hadn't even crossed my mind.
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I know this question is very noobish but I was just curious.

I was at the dealership before I bought my used jeep and noticed that the Rubys were going for 30k + while the regular Wrangys were going for almost 10k less.
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thats cool. but i was talking about TJ's. the JK hadn't even crossed my mind.
the real question is what was HED talkin about...
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like everyone here has said. most people will want a locker d44's front and rear and quick disconnect sway bars. Also from what I under stand you only need a 2" bb to clear 33's(on the jk). so in the end you will spend the same.
There are many JKs running 33s with no lift at all. With 2.5" BB lift you can get 35s, with 4" lift you can get 37s.

The 07+ JK Rubis come with 32"s stock.
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Actually - all JK's have CV drive shafts. But you'd better upgrade them to u-joint'd double cardin shafts.



"Actually" those are Rzeppa Joints on the JK. Very good setup and strong when at stock ride height, but get them over about 3" and you weaken them exponentially.
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Which rears do I need if I put a 2" bushing lift with 295/70/18. When I'm cruising it down shifts. Thanks
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and.......... The TJ Rubicon has the wider stock wider black fender flares!

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