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Old 02-21-2012, 07:33 PM   #1
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What winches are a good buy for the price?

I'm hoping to buy a winch within the next few months and there are so many to choose from its a hard choice. If a price wasn't a factor i would like to have the Warn Powerplant hp, unfortunately that's not the case.I'm not looking to spend more than $600. Im wondering should i buy the warn m8000? are smittybilt winches any good? or superwinch? However i would prefer to go with a Warn. Any tips?

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Old 02-21-2012, 08:39 PM   #2
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I have the m8000 and like it but sometimes i wish i went to the 12000

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:40 PM   #3
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Im not looking for something over the top, i wont be doing any major off-roading/crawling. i just want something reliable and cost effective, i think i would be happy with the m8000. the 12000 is way out of my price range
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:54 PM   #4
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I'm going to go with an m8000 or an engo10

most likely the engo10 with synth line...
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What are the advantages/disadvantages of the synthetic line?
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in a nutshell, the only disadvantage i see for synth line is its more expensive than cable...

do a search for synthetic line and you'll have tons of reading. Jerry has a lot of good insight on it.

Heres a quote from one of Jerry's posts:

"I replaced my first winch's wire rope twice in its first five years for a total of three wire ropes in those five years. Then I replaced it with synthetic rope which was still in good shape until the Jeep was stolen the six years later. Never again will I go back to wire. To me, wire rope is actually fairly easily damaged during normal usage, especially when you have multiple pulls in one day when you can't carefully rewrap the cable well enough to prevent the cable from pulling itself down through its layers which damages/kinks the wire rope. When wire rope kinks from that, broken wire strands are next which indicates it is time to replace the rope, which is why I replaced mine both times.

So far as rubbing the rope goes, of course synthetic rope will wear faster than wire rope will when you drag it over a sharp rock or similar while winching. Fortunately, that's a rare thing and in fact, I've never had to drag my wire rope over anything.

The one thing I would keep in mind is if you do upgrade to synthetic, go with 3/8" instead of 5/16" which is the size wire rope most winches come with. 5/16" synthetic is still stronger than 5/16" wire rope but there's not much of a safety margin if 5/16" synthetic rope does get abraided.

3/8" synthetic, depending on which synthetic rope you go with, has anywhere from close to an 18,000 lb. working strength to something like 22,000 lbs. 5/16" synthetic is more like just over 10,000 to 11,000 lbs. IIRC. 5/16" wire rope, surprisingly enough, breaks at just over 9,500 lbs."
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:04 PM   #7
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They have winches at harbor freight for a good price and they are pretty good
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:51 PM   #8
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I'm happy with my Superwinch 8500.

The Quadratec winches that just came out look really good also.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:28 PM   #9
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[QUOTE=Owen_TJ;2060185]in a nutshell, the only disadvantage i see for synth line is its more expensive than cable...

So synthetic is just as strong if not stronger than wire rope? I have a hard time believing that but it is what it is. Is wire rope going to be a thing of the past? I definitely wish i was more educated about these kinds of topics, as you can tell i'm a newb jeeper.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:31 PM   #10
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They have winches at harbor freight for a good price and they are pretty good
I would be very cautious about buying stuff from harbor freight only because ive bought some tools from there before and it always seems to be lower quality. i guess you get what you pay for.
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I'm happy with my Superwinch 8500.

The Quadratec winches that just came out look really good also.
I'm going to ask the guy at my local offroad shop and see what he recommends and why he recommends it. Ill have to check out the Quadratecs also!
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add to that the fact that synthetic line is CONSIDERABLY lighter than wire line. were talking almost 80lbs difference. and yes it is just as strong. BTW I have one of the Harbor freight 12k winches and it has served me well for the past few months and I use it pretty regularly. Not winching my rig thru mud or anything but if I get in a jam or need to uproot some trees its there.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:43 PM   #13
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add to that the fact that synthetic line is CONSIDERABLY lighter than wire line. were talking almost 80lbs difference. and yes it is just as strong. BTW I have one of the Harbor freight 12k winches and it has served me well for the past few months and I use it pretty regularly. Not winching my rig thru mud or anything but if I get in a jam or need to uproot some trees its there.
Weight reduction is definitely good! As far as the harbor freight winch, i guess its just personal preference haha but im glad its worked well for you!
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I'd suggest the M8000. I have one and it's a great winch. A bother one to consider by Warn is the VR8000 line.

Take a look on craigslist, you can find some good deals on there for used winches.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:52 PM   #15
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Weight reduction is definitely good! As far as the harbor freight winch, i guess its just personal preference haha but im glad its worked well for you!

had a 20% off coupon and it was an open box for $219 was missing some wires but no biggie for me. I got the replacement plan tho for sure cause I know it will break within a year
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:29 PM   #16
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had a 20% off coupon and it was an open box for $219 was missing some wires but no biggie for me. I got the replacement plan tho for sure cause I know it will break within a year
Hey you might as well buy it for that price right? even if it does only last a year.
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I just got a Quadratech catalog and see their new winches. 9000lbs for $295 and 11000lbs for $395. Does anyone know anything about these yet? The prices are good and I wouldn't think Q-tech would put their name on junk.
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Keep you eye out for a used one, I got a 8274 warn for 300 and in my opinion it is the best winch ever James
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:58 PM   #19
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I'm not real big on buying anything used, I've never had good experiences with that haha
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Keep you eye out for a used one, I got a 8274 warn for 300 and in my opinion it is the best winch ever James
Damm! I wish I could find an 8274 in working condition for $300!!!! Nice find!
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I got a 6k winch from Harbor Freight for $279.00. I used it yesterday for the first time pulling a fellow Jeeper out of a pretty good mud pit and it worked very well. I got a snatch block to effectively double the pull strength to 12,000lbs. In expensive, well constructed winch. My 2 cents. On another note, if I had the cash, I would get synthetic rope over wire rope. The main reason, if wire rope snaps, it can take someones head off with its recoil. It is very dangerous if it is not in 100%. If synthetic rope breaks, it simply drops to the ground (well, it has a little bit of recoil, but nothing like wire rope). It is expensive for now, I imagine as it gets more popular and more quantities it will come down, but should I ever need to replace my wire rope, it will be with synthetic.
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Keep you eye out for a used one, I got a 8274 warn for 300 and in my opinion it is the best winch ever James
I almost beat that, I picked up a 9.5 ti for $185.00 that supossedly had a bad motor. When I pulled it apart everything looked new inside so I put it back together and tried it out, it's been working perfect eversince.

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I have a T-Max EW-9000, I bought it back before they branded them Westin T-Max. I loved it so much that when I sold my old Jeep a while back I kept because I knew I'd get another Jeep down the road, well I have a Rubicon now and since the winch was a little beat up I took it apart and it's at the powdercoater now getting a facelift. You can pick them up for a decent price, just shop around. That's my 2 cents.
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Check out Engo winches, they are one of two that survived 4 wheel magazines which shoot out. I put mine one last week. $329 for a 10,000 puund unit. And it only draws 370 amps at full pull. Plus you get a cordless remote included.
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This has been beaten to death but.........

I thought I was getting a good buy on my previous 8000# Chinabilt winch at $299.00.

I was wrong. Should of donated the money to charity for the tax write-off.

Now, for me, the best bang for the buck out there is my used Warn.
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Check out Engo winches, they are one of two that survived 4 wheel magazines which shoot out. I put mine one last week. $329 for a 10,000 puund unit. And it only draws 370 amps at full pull. Plus you get a cordless remote included.
Where did you get it to get the wireless remote?
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Where did you get it to get the wireless remote?
It came with the wired remote and the cordless. I've used it twice nothing real hard but it works great. Just make sure you spool out your cable and re wrap it with some tension on it.
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wasnt there just a winch comparison done by one of the Jeep magazines? Im sure there was, Im also pretty sure of the results, the Harbor Frieght was dead out of the box and they had to get a new one, the new one worked fine, the froze them, baked them, ran them underwater, and ran them for several days non-stop, the harbor Freight was the only winch still turning at the end.

For the record I have the Rugged Ridge 8500 (same as smitty, HF, Quadratec, and superwinch, all made in the same plant) and it has worked for me for over 2 years, and I have used it fairly regularly, and I have exceeded the weight limit more than once, I also use snatch blocks and anchors and am careful about not abusing it too much.

Synthetic line is stronger than wire cable, and wire cable is a pain in the a$$ to pull out, lug around and trudge through snow, mud and forest to get to what your winching, and when your done you have to run it all back out again so you can spool it properly, synthetic (I dont have one yet, but will soon and have used it a few times) is light, easy to use, has no stretchiness to it like you would think it does, and is much easier to re-spool after your winching job is done, as for strength, Amsteel blue is what they use to tie up massive tankers and cntainer ships in ports (a little larger scale of course lol), its extremely strong, just follow the rules for winching, you want a winch twice the capacity of your Jeeps weight, and cable rated half again as much as the winch (like a 12k lb rope on a 8k lb winch). Winches are an important part of survival if you wheel alone, but dont fall for brand snobery, do the research and know what your getting other a high priced name.
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dont mess with all the new stuff.....getcha a used Warn 8274 and be done with it

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