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Old 06-20-2012, 12:01 PM   #1
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When to/how to use lockers?

I'm picking up my 99 wrangler from the shop today. They just installed ARB lockers..and I cant find any rule of thumbs on when to use them... steep slopes, ice, snow, mud, front, rear, and both on and on..please help..don't know of it matters but I also have rear dana 44..and gears 456

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Old 06-20-2012, 12:09 PM   #2
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The only rule of thumb with lockers is turn them on when you need them.

The front locker will drastically reduce your ability to steer. Keep that in mind.

Lockers are not a good idea on snow/ice at all.

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Old 06-20-2012, 04:08 PM   #3
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my understanding is to use them when you know at least one of your wheels will be off the ground. going over obstacles off roading and what not.
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You should have gotten a owners manual its in there. I got one cannot find it right now. There is lots of good info in there.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:57 PM   #5
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Not to be a D but if you don't know when to use them it sounds like you just spent a lot of money for nothing....
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Not to be a D but if you don't know when to use them it sounds like you just spent a lot of money for nothing....
Just because she's not familiar with using them doesn't mean she'll never use them and when she needs them they'll be there.
I would assume that by asking questions Cheryl plans to use the lockers.
Actually I'm envious. I want ARB lockers $$$.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:09 PM   #7
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Sweet setup. You can figure out how to use them but unlike the rest of us we get lockers after we realized we need them.

As it has been stated. Lockers are not recommended or used in snow/ice. One big benefit of selectables is you can turn off the locker.
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They will be good on dry ground. Great for climbing. They can get you in trouble on snow or muddy side-hills, causing the Jeep to go to the low side quickly. Have fun and welcome to the forum. Curious how much $$ you spent on them. Good stuff when you need it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:00 PM   #9
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They will be good on dry ground. Great for climbing. They can get you in trouble on snow or muddy side-hills, causing the Jeep to go to the low side quickly. Have fun and welcome to the forum. Curious how much $$ you spent on them. Good stuff when you need it.
Me too. Just pricing on line your looking at $900-$960 for each ARB locker, add $200 for the basic ARB compressor. My guess would be about $3000 -3,500 with labor.
The one thing I do like about ARB locker is that you don't have to buy a new locker if you change to a lower gearing. Which is not the case with the other two I was looking at, a trutrac and E-locker. They were 3.73 and up.
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Thank you everyone for the advice Was relieved when they handed me the ARB manual. I think i got a fair deal. Paid $5,098.79 out the door...Parts were $3,322.15 for front and rear ARBs, upgraded compressor, 456 gears, slip yoke elimininator, and cv driveline...$1,520.00 for labor...$256.64 for tax...And i got great customer service for free Did find out that who ever had jeep befor me, submerged in deep deep water My transmission fluid looks like whole milk. Now i must flush. oh well. As soon as i got back into town i went to the mountain that has been kicking my patutty...Hahaha...joke on you mountain...was soooo easy with the lockers, was kinda embarrised that i couldnt do it without. Cant wait to find more trouble to get into. Next on to do list...stronger tie rods, and steering stablizer
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AND!!!!!! 00tj2 you are a "D"
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Thank you everyone for the advice Was relieved when they handed me the ARB manual. I think i got a fair deal. Paid $5,098.79 out the door...Parts were $3,322.15 for front and rear ARBs, upgraded compressor, 456 gears, slip yoke elimininator, and cv driveline...$1,520.00 for labor...$256.64 for tax...And i got great customer service for free Did find out that who ever had jeep befor me, submerged in deep deep water My transmission fluid looks like whole milk. Now i must flush. oh well. As soon as i got back into town i went to the mountain that has been kicking my patutty...Hahaha...joke on you mountain...was soooo easy with the lockers, was kinda embarrised that i couldnt do it without. Cant wait to find more trouble to get into. Next on to do list...stronger tie rods, and steering stablizer
welcome to the forum. :wavy:

lockers are a great thing, like others have said ice is not a good idea to be locked. but over rocks and steep hills they are a huge benefit.

i just recently installed my locker in the rear by myself (and the help of a few friends)

well welcome and enjoy
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Just because she's not familiar with using them doesn't mean she'll never use them and when she needs them they'll be there.
I would assume that by asking questions Cheryl plans to use the lockers.
Actually I'm envious. I want ARB lockers $$$.
Like I said I wasn't trying to be.... And I too am envious of her purchase.... From her initial post it seemed as if she was well beyond her scope of what she needed.... After reading that she hit the trails right away and passed obsticals that she wasn't able to before clears up a few things.....

But no matter what changing that transmission fluid should be the number thing on your list Cheryl...
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AND!!!!!! 00tj2 you are a "D"

Why thank you, I've never been called one before by someone with front n rear ARB's Happy wheeling....and change that transmission fluid...and all your other fluids while your at it....
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Didnt take offense 00tj2..just had to give you crap all good. made appointment with transmission guy for 2 weeks out. You are correct about changining rest of fluids. Where i got my lockers installed said i needed to get oil change and diff fluid changed within 500 miles because of metal shavings due to changing to a 456.
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Haha, glad you can dish it out.... To be honest with you two weeks seems like a long time if the transmission fluid is that milky....

Would love to see some pics of your jeep and the trail you were able to conquer last time out....
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Just because she's not familiar with using them doesn't mean she'll never use them and when she needs them they'll be there.
I would assume that by asking questions Cheryl plans to use the lockers.
Actually I'm envious. I want ARB lockers $$$.
Some times I wonder if people think before they speak. I agree that she wants to use them, and she wants to learn how. That's what we do learn! When you stop learning, your dead. Help the girl out, don't tell her she is dumb for buying something to improve her jeep.
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^^^ look for both of you... Your fighting over stupid crap. Grow up. If she has the money to buy the lockers she has the money. Over time she will learn to use them. It may take a week it may take the rest of her life. But the fact of the matter is she wanted them. So she bought them. I don't understand why there's gotta be people arguing in every thread. Let people do there own thing. If you don't like it, then stfu.

Ok it's settled

SHE BOUGHT THE LOCKERS BECAUSE SHE COULD AFFORD THEM.
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Cheryl, you are going to love those lockers, I would suggest looking at some video's on you tube, not to scare you but to educate yourself on also what not to do. If you have an automatic, take it easy on very steep stuff, slow is good & know when to back off
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I traded in an 00 Sahara for an 03 Rubicon with no idea at all what a rubicon was-it just happened to be at the dealership when I wanted a newer one. It took me awhile to figure out what lockers were-no manual, no experience-and until someone SHOWED me what the switches were for, I had no idea! Good for her that she knew enough to GET lockers-means she was way ahead of ME when I 'graduated' to lockers. I agree with others-don't bother with them in snow and ice-it won't help. And stay in 4wd LOW when using them-the amount of torque produced can snap a front axle shaft like a popsicle stick if you try to turn and put the gas to it. Slow and steady...take your time!
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^^^ look for both of you... Your fighting over stupid crap. Grow up. If she has the money to buy the lockers she has the money. Over time she will learn to use them. It may take a week it may take the rest of her life. But the fact of the matter is she wanted them. So she bought them. I don't understand why there's gotta be people arguing in every thread. Let people do there own thing. If you don't like it, then stfu.

Ok it's settled

SHE BOUGHT THE LOCKERS BECAUSE SHE COULD AFFORD THEM.
Whoa. Simmer down there Hoss! I got no argument with 00tj2 or anybody. Actually he seems like a nice guy.
You're the only one that has the hair standing up on your back. I basically said something to the affect of what you just wrote in cap loc, sans the "STFU".
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Whoa. Simmer down there Hoss! I got no argument with 00tj2 or anybody. Actually he seems like a nice guy.
You're the only one that has the hair standing up on your back. I basically said something to the affect of what you just wrote in cap loc, sans the "STFU".
Wo wo....let's just all get along... we are all here to help even with a little bit of banter.... I made my statement and stand by it and was put in my place by the OP we all comment to help one another no matter how bad or good we feel the comments are... Sometimes things come off different than we want them too...

Now I just want to see some pics of a fully locked jeep tearing up some trails!!!
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lockers are the way to go and ARB are top of the heap

great to be able to kick em on and kick em off.. especially if you can rig it to kick in just front or just rear, as I could see myself using that rear a lot and being amazed what just the back, locked can do.. truly amazing.
have fun is the main thing and you are doing that.
we all look forward to what is next..
you started.. lol...
it will never stop now.. never, I tell you ..
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Im new I cant figure out how to upload photos on this thread or my gallery will post asap as soon as i figure it out, i promise One thing i didnt know when i bought these is that ARB has some weird thing where you can NOT engage the front lockers without engaging the rear first. You only have two options...engage both, or just rear. Yes Kennisondan, shop said i can rig it, but i guess this is good considering im still learning how to use them. Spent all my money on lift, ties and lockers, cant afford to break anything for awhile I learned more on this site from all of you, then in that punny manual they give you...so much thank you to ALL of you. OMG, Thank you NHrubicon...Slow is not in my nature so you just saved my jeep. thank you thank you thank you
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It's a good idea to find a trail where you can practice so nothing to hard. You don't have to use the front locker, the rear is all you will need in a lot of cases & don't forget that the steering is not so good when the front is engaged.
I have had lockers for a few years now & honestly my front doesn't get used very much
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Good advice jcf. Im soooo going to listen...thank you
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Im new I cant figure out how to upload photos on this thread or my gallery will post asap as soon as i figure it out, i promise One thing i didnt know when i bought these is that ARB has some weird thing where you can NOT engage the front lockers without engaging the rear first. You only have two options...engage both, or just rear. Yes Kennisondan, shop said i can rig it, but i guess this is good considering im still learning how to use them. Spent all my money on lift, ties and lockers, cant afford to break anything for awhile I learned more on this site from all of you, then in that punny manual they give you...so much thank you to ALL of you. OMG, Thank you NHrubicon...Slow is not in my nature so you just saved my jeep. thank you thank you thank you
There is a sticky On the main page under site help.... You need upload them onto a site like photobucket or one of the others that has free hosting and then you copy the link and paste it here... Hope that helps....

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