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Old 05-21-2007, 01:25 AM   #1
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Which Jeep?

So im a total Jeep noob but thinking of trading my ricer burner in for one.

Whats the difference in models? I'll probly have about 11-14k to spend. I want a convertible of course, 4*4 would be nice.
Is there a model thats fairly fast compared to the others?
Is 4*4 alot more expensive than 2wd?
Is there a removable hard top version?
Do they get stolen alot?
Are the reliable?
Do they come in a manual shifter?

thats all for now, thanks

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Old 05-21-2007, 01:47 AM   #2
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I am guessing, that since you are asking here you are looking at SWB (short wheel base) Jeeps and since the price you mentioned does not include any new models you are likely looking at either a CJ (up to 86), YJ (87-95) or TJ (97-06).

The CJ is the classic old Jeep that is a fantastic trail rig (leaf springs). The YJ is the interim model with the square headlights (leafs). The TJ is the most recent (except the new JK) and is a coil sprung 4-link suspension.

The YJ and TJ were never offered with anything larger than a straight 6. The CJ was offered with a V8 and there are many out there with Chevy 350's. None of these models were ever offered in a 2WD and all have removable tops. They have all been offered as manuals. Unless it's got a V8, a jeep has the aerodynamics of a brick so is a gutless wonder and a fuel pig.

Security in a Jeep is pretty lacking. If someone wants your rig bad enough they are going to get it unless you garage it. Anything valuable in it will disappear sooner or later - even been known to be missing doors sometimes. That being said, I really don't think they are on the hot list of stolen vehicles.

I may be listing all the negatives, but I must tell you that I wouldn't trade my TJ for anything. It's the least practical, gutless, non-secure, no cargo, and most fun and off-road capable vehicle I have ever owned.

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Old 05-21-2007, 02:00 AM   #3
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Yeah I dont really care what model TBH. I just want something that i can enjoy the outdoors with.
This is from the post below this one at the time of posting, the kind of thing I was thinking of...
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:22 AM   #4
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[QUOTE=Smeghead;84020]Yeah I dont really care what model TBH. I just want something that i can enjoy the outdoors with.
This is from the post below this one at the time of posting, the kind of thing I was thinking of...






That's the TJ "Sport" with half doors.........

The TJ's are broken down in different trims:
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Yes you can get them in Manual or Automatic. 05-06 are 6 spd manual, the rest are 5spd.

You can get them in Hard top (removable) or soft top. Becarefull with this choice. Hardtop is much quiter, much warmer/cooler, much more secure, but its a pain to take off compared to a soft top. Problem with soft tops is they tear often, and people just cut windows and whatnot to get inside.

No TJ is a race car. I believe they are something like 170 hp and 230 ft/lbs torque? Something around there. They arent sluggs, but they arent an SS camaro either. Besides, your not going to want to go fast in one anyway

4x4 is standard on any Wrangler older than 2007. 2007 is a brand new model, and 4x4 is standard on the short wheel base, but not the 4 door.

Just look for the lever on the center console in front of the shifter on the driver side

I think the Wranglers are plently reliable, but do not expect to go offroading every weekend and not break anything. No car is invinsible I have had a 97 Sport with 100k+ and now an 05 Rubicon with 20k. I think I miss my old Jeep more, but they are both wonderful vehicles. Either you love them or you hate them.

Also, you can get them in Full Doors or Half doors. This descion isnt as important since you can buy half doors for 400 bucks, but its something to think about. Full doors dont look as good IMHO, but they are warmer and quieter in winter. They also have real glass with a crank handle instead of a plastic zipper. Half doors look better I think, and are much more fun in summer, and great to just take the window out and toss it in the "trunk." Half doors are much easier to remove than full doors due to weight. Half doors are kind of a pain in winter though if your a smoker


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Old 05-21-2007, 08:52 AM   #6
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I agree about the soft tops, Id like to be able to put it on and off when im out somewhere. I mean you can take the softtop with you when you go out right?
You couldnt do that with a hard top.

Noise is a concern, I guess i'll have to ride in one and see. Im not a stereo bass-head but I would like to put at least an amp and sub with the stock stereo
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Honestly.. if you come from a race car to a wrangler.. you will go through withdraws from the speed and agility love.. i know i did and am still going.. i bought my tj a week before i joined here.

Go to www.cars.com and look in the reseach section.. there you can get basic infos...
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:39 AM   #8
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ok thanks for your patience with a noob guys.
Im having an issue with my car right now, if it turns out to be bad im gonna sell it and buy a jeep. If not then maybe i'll keep it for a while.
I do love driving fast its true, and this car is scarey fast but im just tired of wondering what going to break next because of all the power im putting down and mods ive done.
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Get a hard top and full doors, then pickup a bikini top, remove hard top and doors on june 1st and put in storage. Install new bikini, when Oct 1st rolls around reverse. As far as radio, detachable face plate and take it with you. Don't leave anything in it or go pickup a TUFFY full length security console and bolt it in.
I don't even lock my TJ when the soft top is on, I leave it in a train station every day M-F, did have some dirty underwear and socks stolen one friday when I go home for the weekend.
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So the soft tops and hard tops are interchangable eh?
Thats good to know, i think id like to have both for the reasons you mention.

Theres an 07 sahara in the paper today for 15k and a 06 Wrangler X for 21k
That seems wierd. Maybe its the milage?
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:50 PM   #11
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BTW this is a great site that answers some of the dumb questions ive been answering
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:19 PM   #12
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So the soft tops and hard tops are interchangable eh?
Soft top just folds out and all the piping and stuff stays in the back. Thats how you remove the top.. the hard top installs when you pull the soft top down. You can put the soft top down and put on the hard top and then take off the hard top and the soft top is just folded there in your trunky space or you can remove the soft top and its piping that holds it up when its up if you arent planning on removing the hard top (like me).

If you want hard top in general I'd recomend buying a wrangler that comes with hard top. A wrangler that is sold with a hard top costs just couple of hundred bucks more than a one with out but if you want to buy a hard top on its own its around 2k price tag.
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07's stil have some bugs, and they are not jeep esque IMO
the older ones do cost more becasue they are in short supply now and most people seem to like them better.
and there could be other options as well
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:33 AM   #14
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This site is hilarious but has some great priced jeeps.
Anyone dealt with them?
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:42 AM   #15
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Usually with Jeep specific dealers like that your gonna pay a premium for something that has had little done to it.

And be weary or Jeeps that look like this:


The gap between the step and the body is awfully big meaning its had a big body lift. Anything more than 2" is usless and will only cause problems... and looking at the rest of the TJ's on that site, they all seem to have bodylifts when mentioning a 3" Lift... which is the cheap way to go about it to save them money and charge you out the @ss.
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:57 AM   #16
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yes but.......the boobs! It must be a good car because she has big boobs! lol

Thanks for the warning, I thought they looked great but that shows what I know
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Oh trust me - the boobs will come with any jeep
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Also, if you're looking to buy a jeep from a private party, not a dealer, it'd be a good idea to visually check underneath to see if it's been wheeled hard, especially the gas tank skid and the tranny skid. You don't want to wind up with a rig that some 16yo thrashed around in.
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Oh trust me - the boobs will come with any jeep
I strongly disagree.. they will go away actually!!! my gf and i just split apart!!!
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Sorry to hear that
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:42 PM   #21
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Smeghead - Go look at them! Look on the internet to get an idea of the prices, and then check them out! Hardtop from the get-go, cheaper than upgrading. Auto or manual they both work great, just depends on your style. Whatever you end up with, as long as you investigate, you will love it!. (BTW, also a Red Dwarf fan)
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What is the difficulty of installing and removing the hardtop? I'm in the market of purchasing a Wrangler and the one I am looking at comes with both the hard and soft top. Since its the time of year, I figure I'll remove the hardtop. Opinions anyone?
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you need two people and a place to store it
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Yeah my robot girlfriend a large supply garage.

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