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Old 04-03-2012, 08:51 PM   #1
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Which OBA system is the best?

Hello all, so I was thinking about getting a on board air system, I've looked around and so far all I've seen are Viair and ARB.

The main purpose for this will most likely be just airing up after the trails, not planning on putting in air horns or air lockers.

So with that all being said, which brand and model of compressor would be best for just airing up tires? I'm looking in the $200-$300 price range.

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What size tires do you have? The 400H kit we have with the included hose, it a great solution for 35's and low pressure 37's (up to 35 PSI). You just mount it to the vehicle, and wire straight to the battery. It has a ON/OFF switch on the back cover. This compressor is solely for filling tires.

On a TJ, there is a place under the hood to mount it, and is very simple. There is a member on here that purchase it, and mounted under his TJ hood.... and it is working great for him.

Here is a link to our 400H kit.
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And free shipping of course. Let me know what you think. Fill times are listed on the linked page. DOn't hesitate to let us know if you have questions.

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Old 04-04-2012, 11:17 PM   #3
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Thats the compressor I was looking at. I have 29" tires now but for the next set I'm looking into 31" or 33" if I really wanna get crazy. Thanks for the help! Its exactly what I was looking for.
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On the fill ratings is that per tire? Can it be paired up with a tank? About how loud is it when it running? That is a really good price for that compressor.
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+1 on these fellows. They shoot straight and have good service, I purchased my kit from them.



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What size tires do you have? The 400H kit we have with the included hose, it a great solution for 35's and low pressure 37's (up to 35 PSI). You just mount it to the vehicle, and wire straight to the battery. It has a ON/OFF switch on the back cover. This compressor is solely for filling tires.

On a TJ, there is a place under the hood to mount it, and is very simple. There is a member on here that purchase it, and mounted under his TJ hood.... and it is working great for him.

Here is a link to our 400H kit.
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And free shipping of course. Let me know what you think. Fill times are listed on the linked page. DOn't hesitate to let us know if you have questions.
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On the fill ratings is that per tire? Can it be paired up with a tank? About how loud is it when it running? That is a really good price for that compressor.
Yep, the fill ratings are per tire. The 400H is a good all around compressor. You can pair it up with a tank, but would take a few pieces.... but can be done if decided down the road. Anything is possible

I will try and take a video of it running for you and post to the website. Should be able to do it this weekend.

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+1 on these fellows. They shoot straight and have good service, I purchased my kit from them.
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I will try and take a video of it running for you and post to the website. Should be able to do it this weekend.
I'd love to see it running!
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I think the old style york is the best Ive got one in my CJ and the other in my TJ.
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I will take another video tomorrow, as this one after seeing it, doesn't show much. There is no other sound to compare it to. But, you can definitely talk over it, as they are quiet considering they are compressors. I'll post this one anyways. Also, this is (2) 400C's running, that are mounted along my frame.

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I think it would help if you posted where and how you mounted the compressor and tank.
I'm looking for something to fill up to a 37" tire and run air tools. Any thoughts?
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They are mounted along the framerail of the truck, with the compressors above the tank. I will snap a picture later today. I would recommend the dual 400C's for 37" truck tires. Are you looking to put this system on a HD pickup, or Jeep?

Nonetheless, I will get images of how I mounted on my HD. Also, stay tuned to our website, as we are developing a kit that bolts directly onto HD pickups.
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I will be mounting to a 2004 Jeep LJ. So are yours mounted under the truck? It's ok to do this? I was thinking the compressor should be mounted in the cab or under the hood. If you know where others with LJ's mount their compressor and tank, that would help. Currently I have 35" tire, but may go to 37" someday. Could I get a single 400C and upgrade to duals if needed later on? Also, the 400C will run air tools as long as I use a tank, correct? thanks
Ok, fair is fair. A ARB rep (at a show) told me their dual compressor will run circles around any Viair Product. Do you care to comment? You can PM me if you like...
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Yes, you can mount underneath the vehicle, as long as you remote mount the intake filters. They come with all the need hardware and air line to remote mount the filters. The compressors themselves are moisture and dust resistant, so they will hold up Ok underneath the vehicle.

I have seen guys mount the compressor by the brake booster, in the corner of the engine compartment. Below and to the right of the booster. There is a flat spot, and can make some brackets to mount the compressor. Of course, along the frame is fine too. I have had mine there for 5 years. Tank can go along the frame as well.... and some guys put in the cargo area.

You can use a single 400C on 37's, it will do the job. 2 will be twice as fast. The air tank is needed for air tools, as you need that storage. You can add a second compressor later, that is no problem. If you buy together as once, you can get the dual pack and save some money. It also comes with a pressure and 2 relays.

I wouldn't say the ARB runs circles around the VIAIR. It is a little faster according to their specs. VIAIR has standardized testing is very honest with their testing data.... if anything, they are on the conservative side and the compressor will do slightly better than stated.

The ARb puts out just 6.16 CFM at 0 PSI, where the VIAIR is 4.55 CFM. At 30 PSI, the ARB is 4.68, and the VIAIR being 3.74. There is no data after 30 PSI for the ARB, but VIAIR will post data all the way through 150 PSI. See ARB data here.

From what I see, you will notice the ARB loses 25% of performance between 0 & 30 PSI. The VIAIR only drops about 18%. Any compressor will lose performance as it creates pressure. I am guessing there is no data after 30 PSI because it maybe drops off at a higher rate vs. the VIAIR. Both are great companies, but I can tell you that the VIAIR will hold its performance better through the PSI range, not just the first 30 PSI. If you charging a tank to 150 PSI, you are going to want the better performance all the way through.... not just at 0 PSI.

There is also cost. The ARB typically goes for $495. The dual 400C VIAIR pack goes for $319. But I can always give you a member discount on the VIAIR. Take that all into consideration, I think the VIAIR is the better option. For the savings, you can add a tank and other accessories and still cost less than the ARB.

Hope this info helps. I am not saying ARB is bad in anyway.... just showing the facts and trying to show you how I see them. In my eyes, the VIAIR is better.

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Onboardair, thanks for posting on the forum. I have a 2010 2 door Rubicon, with Nitto Trail Grappler 12.50x37" tires. Can you give me a link to the reccomended compressor setup? Where it mounts, does it have a tank etc....Keep in mind, I know NOTHING about on board air compressors, I dont see me running air tools, just fillin up my tires. Thanks for the help, gonna go check out your webpage now!
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If you are just looking to mainly fill tires and no air tools, I would go with the VIAIR ADA system. It mounts off a brake booster bracket and comes with tire fill hose and inflation gun. Wiring harness included as well. Because it has a small reservoir, it can operate air lockers down the road if needed.

The 400C Heavy Duty ADA can handle 37's, as most are filled to about 30-35 PSI. At that pressure, you can run the 400C for about 30 minutes before needing a rest. That is plenty of time to fill the 37's on your Jeep. When going with a constant duty, because it can run longer without resting, it also turns slower to accomplish this. I only recommend a contestant duty system if you want to fill your tires and everybody else's...... or if you have 38's or larger.

In your case, the 400C is a good choice. You can check it using the link below. Let me know if you do have any other questions. Air systems are all we do.

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Yes, you can mount underneath the vehicle, as long as you remote mount the intake filters. They come with all the need hardware and air line to remote mount the filters. The compressors themselves are moisture and dust resistant, so they will hold up Ok underneath the vehicle.

I have seen guys mount the compressor by the brake booster, in the corner of the engine compartment. Below and to the right of the booster. There is a flat spot, and can make some brackets to mount the compressor. Of course, along the frame is fine too. I have had mine there for 5 years. Tank can go along the frame as well.... and some guys put in the cargo area.

You can use a single 400C on 37's, it will do the job. 2 will be twice as fast. The air tank is needed for air tools, as you need that storage. You can add a second compressor later, that is no problem. If you buy together as once, you can get the dual pack and save some money. It also comes with a pressure and 2 relays.

I wouldn't say the ARB runs circles around the VIAIR. It is a little faster according to their specs. VIAIR has standardized testing is very honest with their testing data.... if anything, they are on the conservative side and the compressor will do slightly better than stated.

The ARb puts out just 6.16 CFM at 0 PSI, where the VIAIR is 4.55 CFM. At 30 PSI, the ARB is 4.68, and the VIAIR being 3.74. There is no data after 30 PSI for the ARB, but VIAIR will post data all the way through 150 PSI. See ARB data here.

From what I see, you will notice the ARB loses 25% of performance between 0 & 30 PSI. The VIAIR only drops about 18%. Any compressor will lose performance as it creates pressure. I am guessing there is no data after 30 PSI because it maybe drops off at a higher rate vs. the VIAIR. Both are great companies, but I can tell you that the VIAIR will hold its performance better through the PSI range, not just the first 30 PSI. If you charging a tank to 150 PSI, you are going to want the better performance all the way through.... not just at 0 PSI.

There is also cost. The ARB typically goes for $495. The dual 400C VIAIR pack goes for $319. But I can always give you a member discount on the VIAIR. Take that all into consideration, I think the VIAIR is the better option. For the savings, you can add a tank and other accessories and still cost less than the ARB.

Hope this info helps. I am not saying ARB is bad in anyway.... just showing the facts and trying to show you how I see them. In my eyes, the VIAIR is better.

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If you are just looking to mainly fill tires and no air tools, I would go with the VIAIR ADA system. It mounts off a brake booster bracket and comes with tire fill hose and inflation gun. Wiring harness included as well. Because it has a small reservoir, it can operate air lockers down the road if needed.

The 400C Heavy Duty ADA can handle 37's, as most are filled to about 30-35 PSI. At that pressure, you can run the 400C for about 30 minutes before needing a rest. That is plenty of time to fill the 37's on your Jeep. When going with a constant duty, because it can run longer without resting, it also turns slower to accomplish this. I only recommend a contestant duty system if you want to fill your tires and everybody else's...... or if you have 38's or larger.

In your case, the 400C is a good choice. You can check it using the link below. Let me know if you do have any other questions. Air systems are all we do.

400C Heavy Duty ADA

Could you later add a tank for this setup if I decide I need air tools, after talking to some guys they say "dont rule it out" just because you dont use them now (im new to wheelin) dont mean you wont use them someday.... so Im just curious if I ran this set up would I be able to put a tank somewhere, then run air tools? Or, would another compressor set up be better suited? thank you
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The 400C ADA is a great all around compressor to go with, and would be very happy with it. Starting with the ADA actually makes it easier to add a tank at a later time, since it already has a small reservoir. This is because it already has a pressure switch, safety and ports all integrated. All you have to do is hook an air line to a tank, and your ready to go. You can even still use the coupler on the ADA, and the tank can be mounted somewhere hidden. It doesn't even have to be accessible, since you have plenty of ports on the ADA.
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