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Old 02-20-2012, 06:41 PM   #1
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which one!? torn between two jeeps..

Hay everyone, I'm perspective jeep owner. And I'm pretty serious with some of my choices already. But I needed to bring the question to you all..

The jeeps are:

'05 wrangler unlimited
93000 miles
(40,000 are tow miles)
Private seller.
Buying it from an older couple that towed behind their motor home as they toured the country and Canada. They stopped touring and the owner developed parkisons
The jeep is great condition. They are the second owner. Last carfax odometer reading was 53000
He is eating the cost of its supposed low miles and selling it for its exact Kelly blue book

Vs.

'07 jeep wrangler 4d (stock)
93000 miles
Reputable jeep dealer
I'll have to talk the dealership down in price a little if I want this one. But I think I can do it.


Personally, I favor the body stlye of the 07 over the 05. But would prefer a lot less headache. But I never owned a jeep before so I don't know how it is with them. The 05 jeep owner says he is a "fanatic" about maintenance. And has maintenance records he is willing to provide.. however. The night I went to go see it somebody broke into it and ripped up the soft top (f*#$ @$$holes). He is took it to the shop. Idk if he is going to eat the cost repair yet..


What do you guys think!?

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Old 02-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #2
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I prefer tj/lj. So I would personally go for the 05, however they are known to have opda problems. On the other hand, the 07 has the 3.8 minivan motor and it's the first model year of the jk.

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Old 02-20-2012, 07:43 PM   #3
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Edit - sorry EAGLE he mentioned OPDA

05 looks like a good one. Beware though of OPDA in the 05-06 MY.

I would think twice on 07 if AUTO.
Not that the motor is under powered. The auto tranny is undergeared.
Of coarse a gear change will fix that

My 07 is just fine with 4.10 MT.

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Old 02-20-2012, 07:52 PM   #4
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I have a 2010 4 door. I got it to make it easier with carseats and a child. I also like the extra room in the 4 door behind the rear seat. To each their own. Just get which one you like the most. I would be happy with either.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:11 PM   #5
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I prefer TJ's so i'd go with the 05...not a JK fan in terms of how many accessories they have and the pita maintenance
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:34 PM   #6
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I don't know guys. I think ill take a minivan motor over a headache any day... I really don't want to wrench anything up as often as my old Cadillac. That odpa looks pretty hereditary.
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and the maintenance on a JK is far more of a pita and more expensive than a TJ
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:54 PM   #8
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IMO, the jk will be a better ride if used as DD. You can fit larger tires without lifting, and has rear doors if you have kids. I like tj's or lj's but I personally wanted something newer with warranty when I bought. Seeing as this is my only street legal vehicle I feel I made the right choice.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:47 AM   #9
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I'm curious about the towed miles on the TJ. When towing behind an RV the odometer isn't registering the miles. Those 93k miles have to be driven miles.
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and the maintenance on a JK is far more of a pita and more expensive than a TJ
Maintenance wise the a Tj and 07-11 Jk are similar. Some of those creature comforts on the Jk are options. IMO a basic stock Jk with the 3.8 is pretty easy to work on.
The engines themselves are both older and proven. The suspension will be actually easier with the Jk and if you are planning on a lift.

The newer 3.6 in the 2012 Jk is entirely different. I can't comment on that.
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Yeah, ill be using it as a daily driver. So now I'm curious about that pita maintenance on the 07. How so is it pita?

And you right marine, I found another thread here outlining that subject

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/towe...ct-120452.html
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Yeah, ill be using it as a daily driver. So now I'm curious about that pita maintenance on the 07. How so is it pita?

And you right marine, I found another thread here outlining that subject

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/towe...ct-120452.html
Not a PIA at all

I've owned both

A stock Jk w/3.8 may even be less of a headache than and older Tj. Most newer vehicles will but regardless-the TJ and 07-11 Jk are similar. (Engine-maintenancesuspension wise)

The 3.6 is a whole new(er) animal.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:21 PM   #13
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I'm curious about the towed miles on the TJ. When towing behind an RV the odometer isn't registering the miles. Those 93k miles have to be driven miles.
yep, you're supposed to unbolt the driveshaft when towing like that.....and if they didn't, then that's 40,000 miles of incorrect towing. Regardless, in order to tow it, you put the tranny in park, but the transfer case in neutral with the ignition off (obviously).......so i don't even think it would register those miles either. I think he's BSing about the miles being from towing....
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With that many miles on the TJ and if it is in good condition ask the guy to see his service records.It would probably already went through the OD issues with those miles.

I have an 06 and no issue
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yep, you're supposed to unbolt the driveshaft when towing like that.....and if they didn't, then that's 40,000 miles of incorrect towing. Regardless, in order to tow it, you put the tranny in park, but the transfer case in neutral with the ignition off (obviously).......so i don't even think it would register those miles either. I think he's BSing about the miles being from towing....
I have never heard it being nessesary to remove the driveshaft.

Transfer case in neutral, tranny in park if an auto / 5th gear for a manual to allow fluid to be circulated. Depending on the year, might need to turn the ignition to the first position to prevent the steering from being locked.
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I can't afford the motorhome to pull my rig behind. But I thought there was a button/key near the shifter to override the trans. Maybe I saw that in my jk manual. Driveshaft removal seems a bit tedious.
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Get the tj or be careful with the jk, they come out of the factory with an average of like 1.5 problems per vehicle. I got my tj from a doctor who drove it 10 years through college. Also it has the time tested inline 6, and is easy to work on
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:42 PM   #19
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My 2005 LJ has just over 27,000 mi on it, and I've had it for a little over six months now. I LOVE it. I bought it versus the JK because of its older engine and mechanical simplicity compared to the JK.

If you are an average wage earner like me, I'd go for the LJs for less cost per repair incident. If money is no object, go for the JK.
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:48 PM   #20
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Now I'm not so torn. I love the way the jk looks. But I'm an average earner. So Im looking at the tj a little more closely now. I'm a little befuddled by it thou. The car fax says its last reported odo was in 09 @ 53k. Then nothing for the years to come other then registrations I think... I'm gonna go look at the maintenance records today. And just to get a solid answer as well. I'm gonna call the dealer and ask what is the proper way to tow the specific jeep. I almost want his answer first and then call the dealer infront of him to confirm. Nice old guy. But these tow miles got me lifting an eye brow. Suppose he drove it with to those miles ( its priced at that mileage anyways). And forgive me for asking, but are these jeeps usually still strong at those miles. It's my understanding that jeeps are bullet proof but at the same time, they don't make things the way they used too :/. I'm gonna check out the mileage thread on this board right after. Just want to know what's your take.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:06 PM   #21
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Like stated earlier, I would stay away from the 07 if it is an auto. The transmission tends to overheat and some have been known to catch fire.

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