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Old 06-27-2009, 06:57 PM   #1
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Winch Plate Bent...

Today I bent my Roughcountry X-Series 1/4" winch plate.
I used a snatch block to double the power.
Is it normal that such a winch plate bents with "only" teh double power of a 12.000 lbs winch?

Can I fix and enforce that plate?

Should I buy another plate? Which one?

Do you know if Roughcountry has a +2 years warranty? I bought it in August 2007.














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Old 06-27-2009, 07:01 PM   #2
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nice work. is there supposed to be a third bolt on both sides??

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nice work. is there supposed to be a third bolt on both sides??
No. Those winch plates are designed for more than one jeep. On a YJ you would use the outer two holes rather than the front two.
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ok good.
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What were you winching out, a tank? I think I would be getting a different one. Something doesn't look right with that winch plate. Was it raised originally or was it flat all the way across?
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We winched a tree stump out of the ground. It worked but after that the plate was bent. IMO I need a plate thatīs able to resist the power of my 12.000 lbs winch with a snatch block.

The problem is the German law. No part of the winch is allowed to be i front of the bumper. Thatīs why I need a raised winch plate thatīs a bit above the sway bar.
I found ths one. Itīs 50% thicker material (3/8" instead of 1/4"). But is it better?
Winch Plate by Smittybilt and Other Jeep Parts and Jeep Accessories by 4 Wheel Drive Hardware
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Rokmen Winch plate. Great product.
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ok, winching a stump out of the ground takes crazy force, your jeep, nor plate is designed for that.
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better make it 1/2" if you're gonna get into forrestry.
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Rokmen Winch plate. Great product.

I really like the Rokmen stuff. but tehy donīt ship to Germany. Thereīs no way for me to buy this plate.
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Was it raised originally or was it flat all the way across?
When it was new it looked like this:



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I have this one that is made by Gorilla:




Web Site: Gorilla Winches ATV Winches, Truck and Jeep Winches, ATV Accessories.

If you talk to customer service you can arrange shipping.

Another thing, you might want to consider an attachment point on the frame instead of on the winch plate like you have it now. That would distribute the load a bit and not put so much stress on the winch plate.
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They donīt ship to Germany..
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They donīt ship to Germany..
Did you call or e-mail them?
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What did you do to keep your Jeep from moving? And did you bend whatever that was anchored to?

I'd be worried about twisting the frame. 12,000 pounds doubled is a lot of force.

Time to get a Unimog?
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If you had a heavier plate you could have potentially done frame damage so maybe having a wimpy plate was better.
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The rear of the Jeep was attached to a tree with a tow strap. The tree stump that I was trying to pull out didnīt move.
Perhaps I should bend the plate and enforce it with some metal. Like this plate.

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Yeah Nico that would be my suggestion. Especially since it's hard for you to get certain products over there. Heat it up and bend it back to normal and then put some gussets underneath to strengthen it up.

I had refrained from posting yet because honestly I was truly amazed that you were able to do that to a winch plate.
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hopefully its obvious now, that was way too much. strapping the rear to a tree, and winching on a stump w/ a 12,000lb winch doubled up, you're lucky thats all that happened.
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really?

I winched a buddies long mercedes G on the same way and nothing was bent after that...
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stumps can be crazy to remove. my dad owns a construction company, he removed a stump for a neighbor with his excavator, took half a day and he said he'll never do it again. way too much for a jeep, you're lucky thats all that happened
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I also think that most winch plates don't have the hooks attached on the plate. Example, the warn plates just hold the winch. Your other attachment point (when using a snatch block) would be to a clevis on the bumper itself not back to the winch plate.
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well it would also depend on the size of the stump, among other things. I have broke 1/2 inch swedged cable pulling on trees caught behind a stump, and i have pulled stump out of the ground the same way. But that was with a skidder, i would say that might have been a little to much for a jeep. Id say bend the plate back and brace it up.
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really?

I winched a buddies long mercedes G on the same way and nothing was bent after that...
But the G Wagon was moving.

Doubling back to your vehicle works great - I do it because my winch is too small.

But if you anchor the Jeep to something, apply 24,000 pounds pressure to an immovable object, something has to give. Bolts. Metal plates. Frames. Cable ropes. The winch itself.
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Good job Nico!!! Never have seen that before!
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Here are some other pics...
And the XXXXX stump didnīt move a little bit...







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Well to be honest it wasn't a full 24k pound pull. Doesn't look like there was much more than 1 or 2 wraps off the winch so in reality it was probably more like a 14 or 15k pull.
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i hope you or your jeep wasnt anywhere close to that tree when it was being cut, whoever was cutting it had almost no control of were it was going to fall. And why didnt you just cut the stump off close to the ground, your never going to pull that out, not with your jeep atleast.
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Awesome! The roots of that stump go all the way under the road, are entwined around the trees next to it, and the main root ball goes down, what, maybe ten feet? Plus all the dirt on top of them.

Think of how heavy the trunk and branches of a 50-70 foot pine are, and how strong the roots need to be to hold it in place during snow and winds.

Just dig down a bit and cut it off.

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