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Old 01-14-2012, 10:31 AM   #1
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Yj or Tj?

this is my first post. ive been looking for wrangler for about 5 months now am getting very discouraged. in all five months i have found a whole 2 jeeps in good condition at a decent price...both of which were bought right out from under me 15 minutes before i arrived. i am annoyed to say the least. one was a 94 yj for $3700 and one was a 97 tj for $4200 both rust free both 4.0 manuals. Im in long island ny and there are alot more yjs for sale than tjs here. but i like the tj much better. im looking to spend 5000 for a jeep with like 130000 miles on it...better if possible. is it possible to get good tj at this price? or should i look for a decent yj? to me the yj is just to rugged considering the car will be my daily driver. any input. also ive mainly been using craigslist...any other places to look?

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You can do better on price but you may have to travel a bit. If you don't mind a bit of adventure, hit the south east Craiglist for good deals on rust free Jeeps. I know within 200 miles of me here in Florida, there's dozens of Jeeps in the price range you're looking for. I just saw a 99 TJ 4L with 105k on it for $4900 this morning in Jacksonville. You could, in theory, fly down to get one and drive it back.

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lol there should be no question about this ... TJ
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:56 PM   #4
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I'm with pontiackid...TJ all the way. Try yahoo auto or just do a search for jeep tj for sale...there are a bunch of sites out there....Also, for that price your going to have a hard time getting a 4.0 in our area.
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ill tell you this though dont kick the 4 banger.. i have one and love it
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You know I never drove one in a wrangler but I did have a 86 Cherokee with the 4cyl and it seemed fine to me. I'm sure the prices are just as high in pa as they are here in lower ny...

Nicko, if you don't need a speed demon than the 4cyl might be worth a shot. Prices are high here no mattr what but I did see a few in the Hudson valley section of CL for under 5500
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Please keep the 4-cyls secret. I want to be able to get cheap parts for a long time, because I enjoy my 21+mpg combined rolling around in a 4x4 convertible with 31" ATs.

I look over at some poor schmo wedged into a Nissan Sentra while idling at a red light, and grin as I realize I'm burning fuel at roughly the same rate in my lifted 4x4.

Gasoline will be $4.59 a gallon in a few months, and I'll still be chugging along.
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lol there should be no question about this ... YJ
There...I fixed it for you. YJ is going to be much more economical to work on! At that price point you're going to see more YJ's than TJ's.
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Loved my YJ!...until I bought a TJ...
Honestly, either way, it's a Jeep...you can't go wrong.
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TJ hands down. Nothing wrong with the YJ though
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Thanks for the replys guys! I haven't had time to get back to my computer sorry for taking so long! But basicly I wanted a yj for the longest time because there rugged and such...but then I saw the tj and saw it was a bit more civilized! haha. Also I'm inclined to agree with you on the 4cyl....I hadnt really considered it because everyone says it so under powered?? I drive a 4 cylinder 2.2 lieter chevey car that gets 23 mpg consistently....would the wrangler be kinda like that? If it is I dont mind cause I've been concerned aboutthe whole 4.0 sucking gas thing. DaysyCutter...21 my sounds great to me! Do all 4cyls getthat mpg? If the 4 banger isint any slower than my car (pretty damn slow) Ide be happy with the 4cyl...
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But basicly I wanted a yj for the longest time because there rugged and such...but then I saw the tj and saw it was a bit more civilized! haha.
This right here tells anyone all they need to know about the YJ vs TJ.
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Also I'm inclined to agree with you on the 4cyl....I hadnt really considered it because everyone says it so under powered?? I drive a 4 cylinder 2.2 lieter chevey car that gets 23 mpg consistently....would the wrangler be kinda like that? If it is I dont mind cause I've been concerned aboutthe whole 4.0 sucking gas thing. DaysyCutter...21 my sounds great to me! Do all 4cyls getthat mpg? If the 4 banger isint any slower than my car (pretty damn slow) Ide be happy with the 4cyl...
Mileage between the two engines is actually pretty comparable. I got 23ish when mine was still stock.

You will notice the difference in power though, especially up hills, in the wind, and passing. No question- get a 4.0L.
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Im with the TJ people on this one...
I was all set to get a YJ for my first jeep but the more I researched it the more I fell in love with the TJ. Be patient and don't be afraid to travel. I drove 250 miles just to look at mine, but got it over 4k lower than the same jeep locally (fort wayne is insane).
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You can find prices vary by a lot from place to place. Here in Mississippi, prices are crazy. Ten and twelve year old jeeps go for $10,000 and more. Craigslist has some great deals, but like they said, you have to travel. Good luck.
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:24 PM   #15
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if you can find a rust free YJ in NY, jump on it, you can always trade it for TJ if you find one you like better

if your commute doesn't run you on the freeway, consider a 4cyl
if you have a lot of stop and go traffic, consider an automatic

if you are willing to travel, plenty of TJs are out there
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I really missed out. Went from CJ's to JK.

Now I might have to pick up a TJ and a YJ to make up for it.

Which one first? Hmmmm. Ha!
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:07 PM   #18
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You guys got me thinking about the 4cyl now. I do do some highway driving but the majority is around town. But in reality is the 4cyl that bad on the highway? With my car now I'm used to having to floor it to get past other cars. Ide def get a manual tho do doubt about it. I want the 4.0 but 16 mpg vs 20+ mpg on the 4cyl is a big difference considering the gas prices today.
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But in reality is the 4cyl that bad on the highway?
The max speed my 2.5L Wrangler has been able to attain with stock gearing (4.10) is 54 MPH. That's balls out, 4th gear maxed out going into 5th gear, down hill, nice tail wind, etc. It just runs out of juice. If you're going down a road with a slight (like 4-5 degree) upward grade, you can watch the MPH drop constantly until you need to downshift to keep from stalling.

Granted, this is with 33 inch tires. I'm sure with 29s, it wouldn't be such an issue. None the less, it's one of my greatest frustrations with my Jeep that the extra 4-5MPG costs me the freedom of Freeway driving without regearing. I don't go anywhere far with the Jeep (thankfully) but I'd like the option occasionally.
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Ahh well I guess I'm going with a 6...I'm regularly on new England roads the majority of which are hills so yea I guess it's the 6.
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Ive wrenched on YJs and TJs, YJs are by far less complicated.. TJs are like dealing with a woman on her period..
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Ive wrenched on YJs and TJs, YJs are by far less complicated.. TJs are like dealing with a woman on her period..
Yeah, but the rusted bolts on a 20 year old YJ can be a real C Ya Next Tuesday...
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No rust here
same can be said for TJs though, rust only takes so long to form.. 97 was the first TJ, thats 15 years of rust right there..
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Ya'll aren't gonna believe I can get my 2.4 up to 88mph on the speedo until I post a vid. That's all she's got though, flat ground, low elevation. I have 31's mounted. I suspect the DOHC 2.4's might wind out a bit better than the old AMC 2.5s.


33"s tires are huge. I don't even have those on my 3/4-ton truck. I've had 33"s in the past, on 1970's fullsize 4x4s with V8s, and even those were hurting for power. My old F-100 had a true death wobble. Big tires require a certain amount of understanding and sacrifice.

Just toss one around for yourself one day, a 33" and then a 235/75/15. You'll feel a big difference, and that's what your engine feels, times 4. That's what your shocks feel, your wheel bearings feel, etc.

At this stage in my life, I don't need the big tires or the hassles that come with them. Maybe if I had a designated competition rig... but not for a daily driver. My 31's will get me where I need to go.


At any rate, TJ vs. YJ... I'd focus on value first. IF you want a prayer of having working A/C, then get a TJ. 20 year old A/C is hard to keep cool.
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At any rate, TJ vs. YJ... I'd focus on value first. IF you want a prayer of having working A/C, then get a TJ. 20 year old A/C is hard to keep cool.
I'll give you that. One of the things I do miss occasionally about the TJ was ice cold A/C (and face burning heat).
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you can get a 4cyl or an auto, don't get both

my wife's 95 4cyl 5spd can hit 85 on the freeway on 30s, but it takes it some time to get there, with about 19 mpg

we won't speak about my 88 YJ mpg

my 96 XJ 4.0 5spd just keeping pulling in any gear or grade on 30s and gets 20+mpg regularly
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you can get a 4cyl or an auto, don't get both

my wife's 95 4cyl 5spd can hit 85 on the freeway on 30s, but it takes it some time to get there, with about 19 mpg

we won't speak about my 88 YJ mpg

my 96 XJ 4.0 5spd just keeping pulling in any gear or grade on 30s and gets 20+mpg regularly
I had a 4cyl auto. It sucked. My 6cyl auto rocks!
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my 97 tj is a 4banger and with 31s i can cruse at 110 (km/h) at around 2900 rpm (410 gears) not fun but it will get me there..... shes a fuel slut on the highway though.
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