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Old 07-21-2010, 08:16 AM   #1
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Zipper question

When you first start a zipper, both ends are inserted into a small block looking thingy (see attached photo). I need at least two of them. I can find the pulls and the ends and the whole zipper,etc. I think I can fix the zipper if I can find the ends. I have searched the internet to no avail. I know the zipper is YKK 10c Ziplon. Local unpholsterers want to put in a new zipper. If I do that I am gonna buy a whole new top. Right now I just want to buy some time. I'll drop a dollar in a minute if I know I can get two back but they are talking $200 for new zippers-no way. I can find repair kits but they don't have that little block shown in the picture. Perhaps some of you have ran across this problem and can help. PS: I stayed up until 1am this morning reading a lot of forums. Very good stuff on here.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:29 AM   #2
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Your zippers are toast. Either replace the zippers ($200 is out of the question) or go with the new top.

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Old 07-22-2010, 07:34 AM   #3
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You are probably right. They look like toast too. Since this is our first jeep and we are learning I think I will use the old ones to learn on and fine tune my aggravation factor on these. Then I hopefully will have learned the shortcuts when I get the new one. Everyone I have talked to tells me they can't be fixed. If I could just find what I am looking for I can peice meal them until.... I did fix my sun visors instead of buying new ones. Did a good job too. But, I am retired now so I have time to piddle. Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:06 AM   #4
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The piece you are missing is called the "box"
the piece that slides into it is called the "pin"
Here's a source for hard to find zippers ZipperSource



Here's a place where you MAY be able to order just the parts you need:
Stans Sewing Supplies
Or they may be able to steer you to where you can find the parts.

I would also check with a marine upholstery or canopy making company to see if they can help you find the parts. Marine upholstery shops are also well setup for this sort of repair including zipper replacement.

google the heck out of things like "zipper repair parts" "zipper box replacement" and so on, you may get lucky enough to find what you need.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:38 PM   #5
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The zipper CAN NOT be fixed. Sorry. You can, however, "get by" for a while if you don't want to take the piece compleatly off. You can start the zipper then put a safety pin in that end so it can't come apart on you. Not a fix, and a little iffy I know, but I'm afraid that's all you can really do with it. They make parts to shorten the zipper, and replacing the pull is easy enough, but if the top (box) is broken or any teeth are missing you can't repair that. You might be able to replace the zipper yourself depending on where it is. It's not too hard to do. Zippers are not to expensive. Just mark where the old one is and sew the new one in the same place. What do you have to lose? ;D
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:06 PM   #6
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I have always - ALWAYS had a problem with people telling me that I CANNOT do something.

I bet that it can be fixed, might be more trouble that it's worth, but I bet that if I were determined enough, I could do it.

It's not my Jeep though, so I'm not going to spend a bunch of time looking for parts or a solution.
I'll let the OP do that.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:07 PM   #7
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Ohhhhhhh...
lookie here!

Zipper boxes!
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Thanks guys, I have some queries out on the box issue. I have been in my shop thinking off and on all day. I am going to try real hard to do what I am told I cannot do. But all the time considering the obvious and that is that this is a quick fix. Eventually I will buy a new top. It just won't be this year. In the meantime.......this old fart is gonna keep thinking. I appreciate all of you. Now if your sun visor hinge (plastic) is broken, I can fix that too. Didn't have to buy a new set.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:21 PM   #9
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I'm just suprised those YKK's blew up like that.
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OK, the short of it all; I sent out a few emails to the folks that makes and supply these various zippers. They all conclude, if the box is gone you HAVE to replace the whole zipper. Well, that's their answer. Today I made me a box, put it on the zipper. It works well and I have bought me some time. I know now if the box comes off, save it. It can be put back on. If the box is missing, make a new one. PIECE OF CAKE. Kate, we think alike. Don't tell me I can't do it. LOL
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:12 AM   #12
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Hey Kel - GOOD ON YA!!!
I could jump up and down and hug your neck!

Do you have ANY idea how much trouble I have gotten into during the course of my life because parents, boyfriends, husbands, children, employers and friends have told me that I "CAN'T" do something? OR you HAVE to do it THIS way, that's another one that always got me.

Yea, you just made my day!
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Use a slider as the box

Hi,
I was was searching about, seeing how people fixed their separating zippers when the box was broken or missing. I never did find a description of how anyone fixed theirs. Well, I just found a way to fix mine: use a second slider as a replacement bottom box. The "closed" end of the slider is just the right shape. I bought a zipper of the same size as the one I wanted to fix at the sewing store. The cheapest one I could find was $1.99. I cut the zipper and removed the slider. Then I trimmed away the old broken box on my old zipper and glued the new slider on in its place. Works like a charm!
Cheers,
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:08 AM   #14
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I never thought of doing it that way. I can see where it would work. I finally ordered me a new top from JC Whitney (Bestop) and installed it just this past week. Almost did it by myself but needed the wife to do some tugging and/or pushing for me. If I ever install another one it will be in the hot summer heat, not a cool winter day. My old top was not in bad shape, just the zipper issue. I am trying to give it away to a needy jeeper. (it being the season to be generous)

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