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19/60 Coil Spring Question

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#1 ·
I came across a few old threads regarding our coil springs. Mine up front end in 13, and I haven't checked the rear coils. Down the road I'll be adding a new bumper and winch. I'd like to minimize front end sag as much as possible. No desire for a full on lift right now....just the winch and bumper.

What are the part numbers needed to order these springs, and is there a preferred place to get them?

Thanks.
 
#2 ·
Those are Rubicon springs the best thing would be to just watch the for sale section here, other jeep boards and your local craigs list. It is very common for people to add a lift as soon as they get their new jeep or very shortly thereafter. I am pretty sure I have seen brand new take off Rubicon springs and shocks sell many times for about $200. I have even seen some given away for free.

Not exactly what you are looking for but here is a set of 18/59 and a set of 18/60 for $75 each set:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f770/rubicon-springs-1409410.html

Another that is close to what you want 19/59 $120:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f770/a...haft-shocks-springs-wheels-tires-1434145.html
 
#3 · (Edited)
You have the option of changing springs, or just adding spacers.

As for the springs, the higher the number on the spring tag, the more lift you will receive. This is the last two (2) digits of the spring tag. The highest numbers available are 19 front and 60 rear.

The only factory installed springs that will still give you still more lift, are the 10A springs.
68196006AA Front and 68196009AA Rear.

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^^^This is what the spring tags look like. This one happens to be a 59 rear.

craigslist is the best place to find these. Oh, and the Rubicon springs are no different from the other models. But the Rubicon shocks are a upgrade.

Good Luck in your search...:thumb:
 
#16 ·
Oh, and the Rubicon springs are no different from the other models. But the Rubicon shocks are a upgrade.

Good Luck in your search...:thumb:
FYI there is no such thing as "Rubicon springs". The spring rates are based on the weight of the vehicle from the factory. Nothing whatsoever to do with Rubicon, sport, sahara, etc. The heavier the vehicle from the factory, the beefier the springs. So a very basic 2dr sport soft top has the lowest spring rates. A 4 door gets an increase. Max tow gets an increase. AC gets an increase. Factory hard top gets an increase. And the 10A package has an increase. The increases balance out the weight giving you the same ride height and handling.

If you take the springs off a heavier package, say a 4 door hard top, and put them on your lightweight 2dr soft top, you end up gaining lift. Bigger springs with less weight on them.

How much lift is not an exact science. It is roughly 1/4" per numeric increase. So going from 14 to 18 is numeric increase of 4 x 1/4" = roughly 1 inch of lift. It can vary up or down a bit based how heavy your Jeep is over stock, and how worn the new springs are. If you're loaded up with heavy bumpers, a winch, and gear, the lift result will be a little less. If the springs are old and worn, it could be a little less. If you're bone stock empty, it could be a little more.

The only thing that is "rubicon" is the red shocks. I think they're a little bit stiffer and maybe 1/4" longer. The difference is pretty small, but usually they come with the springs if you buy take-offs from someone online or craigslist.

Those are Rubicon springs the best thing would be to just watch the for sale section here, other jeep boards and your local craigs list. It is very common for people to add a lift as soon as they get their new jeep or very shortly thereafter. I am pretty sure I have seen brand new take off Rubicon springs and shocks sell many times for about $200. I have even seen some given away for free.

Not exactly what you are looking for but here is a set of 18/59 and a set of 18/60 for $75 each set:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f770/rubicon-springs-1409410.html

Another that is close to what you want 19/59 $120:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f770/a...haft-shocks-springs-wheels-tires-1434145.html
Sorry, Old Dogger and Pedals2Paddles are right about the springs not being specific to the Rubicon or other model of Wrangler of course, my bad.

Take offs are the way to go I see them advertised all the time very cheap.
 
#4 ·
Thanks guys. I have a parts guy at a local dealer who loves to look up prices for me. Not that it really matters, but because my Jeep only has 279 miles on it, I'd rather replace the springs with newer stuff rather than older take offs. At this point I'm just looking to level it out especially when I add the weight of a bumper and winch.

Would spacers be an effective way to accomplish this? Is one method preferred over the other?
 
#5 ·
Thanks guys. I have a parts guy at a local dealer who loves to look up prices for me. Not that it really matters, but because my Jeep only has 279 miles on it, I'd rather replace the springs with newer stuff rather than older take offs. At this point I'm just looking to level it out especially when I add the weight of a bumper and winch. Would spacers be an effective way to accomplish this? Is one method preferred over the other?
you can find low mileage takeoff springs from people also adding a lift right away. The heavier duty springs are a very economical way to get exactly what your looking for. Minimal sag when extra weight is introduced. A spacer will still allow the softer springs to sag quite a bit under load.
 
#9 ·
The difference in the springs is approximately 1/4" per number, most find it to be a tiny bit more. So going from a 13 to an 18 would net around 1.5" of lift. You'd want to do the rear also.

Craigslist takeoffs can be had with no miles as some people have the dealer lift before they take possession of their Jeep. I got a set of 18/60's AND the red Rubicon shocks which are an upgrade, all for $75.
 
#11 ·
Tools and equipment are no problem. The knowledge is a different story....haha. I just called my local dealer and got quoted "no more than $300 for all 4 coils. Maybe less, but no more than that."

That does seem a bit high, but what do I know....
 
#15 ·
FYI there is no such thing as "Rubicon springs". The spring rates are based on the weight of the vehicle from the factory. Nothing whatsoever to do with Rubicon, sport, sahara, etc. The heavier the vehicle from the factory, the beefier the springs. So a very basic 2dr sport soft top has the lowest spring rates. A 4 door gets an increase. Max tow gets an increase. AC gets an increase. Factory hard top gets an increase. And the 10A package has an increase. The increases balance out the weight giving you the same ride height and handling.

If you take the springs off a heavier package, say a 4 door hard top, and put them on your lightweight 2dr soft top, you end up gaining lift. Bigger springs with less weight on them.

How much lift is not an exact science. It is roughly 1/4" per numeric increase. So going from 14 to 18 is numeric increase of 4 x 1/4" = roughly 1 inch of lift. It can vary up or down a bit based how heavy your Jeep is over stock, and how worn the new springs are. If you're loaded up with heavy bumpers, a winch, and gear, the lift result will be a little less. If the springs are old and worn, it could be a little less. If you're bone stock empty, it could be a little more.

The only thing that is "rubicon" is the red shocks. I think they're a little bit stiffer and maybe 1/4" longer. The difference is pretty small, but usually they come with the springs if you buy take-offs from someone online or craigslist.
 
#19 ·
Buying OEM springs from the dealer is pretty pointless. You can find takeoffs for a fraction of that. If you're going to spend $250+, you might as well spend it on actual lift components. Springs, sway bar links, spacers, etc. The whole point using larger OEM springs is to get a little bit of lift for dirt cheap. Like <$100.
 
#21 ·
If you're not already, check Facebook for local Jeeper groups. There are usually several in every geographic region. And they almost all have an associated For Sale group
 
#23 ·
19/60 combo will likely cost you more than $100...I know...I looked for a while before buying a matched set off of eBay. Did a swap on my Rubicon JK and it was just the right amount of height for the OEM rims. To be honest it actually rides better than the 16/57 that were on there.
 
#24 ·
I'm also thinking about new springs for my '16 JK 2-door. I want a winch and so need a decent bumper. Here's a couple of links that I've found helpful during my thinking. Mind you, I haven't yet done any of the work, so I don't yet have first hand experience. Still, I hope the links are useful.

This link should take you directly to a method on how to calculate the size of the springs that you need based on the weight that is being added:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/unlimited04s-lj-build-778715/index21.html#post11066169

And this link is for the various weights of after market bumpers:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/stock-vs-after-market-bumper-weight-84074.html

Based on searching various Jeep forums, winches with steel cables are at least 50 pounds minimum. Winches with synthetic cables are around 50 pounds, more or less.
 
#26 ·
I'm in the same situation. I already have a spacer lift with stock 13 springs up front. I was actually gonna replace the from with 17s after I get the bumper and winch on.

Can't I get away with doing just the front after I add that stuff? It's gonna be close to 200 pounds I'm adding.

My thinking is if I do the back to with a matching set the front will be a lot lower.
 
#27 · (Edited)
I'm in the same situation. I already have a spacer lift with stock 13 springs up front. I was actually gonna replace the from with 17s after I get the bumper and winch on. Can't I get away with doing just the front after I add that stuff? It's gonna be close to 200 pounds I'm adding. My thinking is if I do the back to with a matching set the front will be a lot lower.
you can get away with just doing the front, no harm in it. If you like the way it looks and drives just doing the front then your done. The rears are the easier ones to swap. So if you decide to go ahead and swap em out you can decide that at a later time.

Fwiw I saved about 100 pounds vs your setup, but with my winch I dropped very little with 18 springs in the front.
 
#29 ·
I've got a chance to pickup a set of 18/60 springs and Rubicon shocks from a '15 takeoff for $150.

I'm tempted to get them but I'm not sure how involved the swap would be on my '15 JKUS?
 
#30 ·
I've got a chance to pickup a set of 18/60 springs and Rubicon shocks from a '15 takeoff for $150. I'm tempted to get them but I'm not sure how involved the swap would be on my '15 JKUS?
since you already have an unlimited your going to be at the upper end of the spring scale anyways. For you a true commercial lift would be of more benefit in my opinion.
 
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