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Old 06-05-2014, 04:55 AM   #1
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3rd light lens removal 2012 JK

Hey, guys- how do I get the 3rd eye lens of my '12 JK off without breakin' it? Thanks!

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Depends on how far down you want to go. The light is held into the bracket with two screws from the jeep side. If you want to get rid of the light and bracket, then you need a hack saw to cut the bracket. The third way is to take the spare tire carrier off.

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Hey, guys- how do I get the 3rd eye lens of my '12 JK off without breakin' it? Thanks!
Are you looking to get to the LED lights underneath, or just remove the brake light from your Jeep?

If you just want to remove the third brake light, there are 4 screws on the tire carrier. You remove those and the plastic light assembly will come out, but you will still have the metal arm section backing. The only way to remove that is by cutting it off.
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Thanks guys for your help!!! I never would have thought to look on the Jeep side... but then again there are a lot of places I don't think to look. My wife says I'm "just an old grump and need to look on the bright side."
Really, it may seem a bit daft, but I want to put a blue dot on the lens, like we did the ol' hot rods. When ya step on the brake, the light goes purple. Blue dots on a Jeep? Yeah, I put blue dots on everything- my son's Rubicon, my daughter's Forerunner, my wife's Jetta... blue dots are way cool.
When ya get to be my age, ya start thinkin' 'bout the ol' days. When ya get to be my age, with or without a good day of Jeepin', ya fart dust. But thank God I got to be my age!
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Get any older and you wont remember the old days!
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It sounds cool, but are you sure you want to risk altering a federally mandated safety feature from the universally accepted color for brake lights (red) which means STOP, to purple which means ???

If someone were to rear-end your jeep, their lawyer might take notice. Your insurance company might also have an issue with it.

I ran without a third brake light completely for about 6 months when I put on a 35" spare, but paranoia led me to add it back to eliminate that risk. Just something to think about (from another old coot).
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Thanks guys for your help!!! I never would have thought to look on the Jeep side... but then again there are a lot of places I don't think to look. My wife says I'm "just an old grump and need to look on the bright side."
Really, it may seem a bit daft, but I want to put a blue dot on the lens, like we did the ol' hot rods. When ya step on the brake, the light goes purple. Blue dots on a Jeep? Yeah, I put blue dots on everything- my son's Rubicon, my daughter's Forerunner, my wife's Jetta... blue dots are way cool.
When ya get to be my age, ya start thinkin' 'bout the ol' days. When ya get to be my age, with or without a good day of Jeepin', ya fart dust. But thank God I got to be my age!

I'm not sure if you can take just the lens off the light. I think it's a sealed component.
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It sounds cool, but are you sure you want to risk altering a federally mandated safety feature from the universally accepted color for brake lights (red) which means STOP, to purple which means ???

If someone were to rear-end your jeep, their lawyer might take notice. Your insurance company might also have an issue with it.

I ran without a third brake light completely for about 6 months when I put on a 35" spare, but paranoia led me to add it back to eliminate that risk. Just something to think about (from another old coot).
3rd brake lights are federally mandated to manufacturers to include... not to have equipped after being sold. Same thing goes for TPMS and other "safety" items. While changing the color is a bit odd... removing them entirely is not illegal and cannot be used in the court as negligence. Having broken taillights (which are required) however can be.
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3rd brake lights are federally mandated to manufacturers to include... not to have equipped after being sold. Same thing goes for TPMS and other "safety" items. While changing the color is a bit odd... removing them entirely is not illegal and cannot be used in the court as negligence. Having broken taillights (which are required) however can be.
I've heard that argument, but I've also heard some claim that there are individual states that require the third brake light to be maintained just like certain mirrors must be maintained. I'll admit I haven't seen proof of that. With California being the nanny state that it is, I'd at least want to know the state requirements.

In any case, I'm not sure I'd be willing to be a test case, especially when it comes to altering the color of a brake light, but to each his own.
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Wow, "back in the day" it was the thing to run Blue Dots on our Harley's in my neck of the woods! We must be old! Haven't heard using blue dots for years! Anyway, I know back then, it was an issue in PA, but we didn't care...Bike's gone, wife's gone , now I try to keep an eye on things that draw attention with my new passion, Jeep's!... Are they not illegal in Ca. ? Haven't seen them in years!

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3rd brake lights are federally mandated to manufacturers to include... not to have equipped after being sold. Same thing goes for TPMS and other "safety" items. While changing the color is a bit odd... removing them entirely is not illegal and cannot be used in the court as negligence. Having broken taillights (which are required) however can be.
This is actually a commonly perpetuated false statement. They are federally mandated in all 50 states to always be equipped. Some states choose not to enforce this law, which is fine, but there is huge statistical correlation between 3rd brake lights and fewer accidents. Not to mention if you get rear ended by a legal-savy person in a state that requires it, you can be cited for not having one which can make the accident your fault(been there).

Would you remove air bags and seat belts? Why remove other safety equipment?
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If you drive a Jeep because it is fashionable then there is a real concern for airbags, auto-brake, auto-park, ABS [B.S.], stability control power steering, and automatic everything. But a Jeep is not a Prius... if you are truly using the vehicle for what it was intended, a rollbar and a good set of seatbelts are all you need. Federally mandated ANYTHING is so much non-sense. We need Gov't out of our bedrooms, off our necks, and out of our backseats. Buckle-Up for safety.
If you want a street car, buy a Suburban, or a mini-van. Jeeps are not for you, you might break a fingernail.
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And yes, Ed- blue dots are illegal in California... that's why we run 'em.
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Yeah, my Prius had a tough time pulling into the parking spot at the mall last weekend.





Seems to me you're the one trying to make the fashion statement with purple brake lights. Here's a thought, let's paint STOP signs green, and maybe we change the lenses on traffic lights to blue, purple, and aqua. It's just government meddling to require standard colors on traffic control devices to improve safety.

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This is actually a commonly perpetuated false statement. They are federally mandated in all 50 states to always be equipped. Some states choose not to enforce this law, which is fine, but there is huge statistical correlation between 3rd brake lights and fewer accidents. Not to mention if you get rear ended by a legal-savy person in a state that requires it, you can be cited for not having one which can make the accident your fault(been there).

Would you remove air bags and seat belts? Why remove other safety equipment?
You are completely correct about the brake light legality. I looked it up after you posted and was surprised at how wrong I was.

You may be incorrect however in regards to airbags. I am finding conflicting info on that (think replacing steering wheels). Seatbelts for sure cannot be removed.

To me, I hate nanny-states. If I want to die in a car accident due to not wearing a seatbelt or not having an airbag... then so be it, its my choice. I however am not that kind of person but I dont like choices being taken away from me.
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@CoreyZ: let's be friends- I like the way you think!
@Brighton: Your not-knowing how cool blue dots are make me have a feeling I was driving my GPW around the Mojave and Black Rock Deserts when you, well... weren't even born yet. My JK is my 7th Jeep in my lifetime. No matter, you DO make a very good point that my blue dots are somewhat of a fashion statement: I agree. Your UnLtd. is pretty neat and it looks like you DO get it. I dig it. But it looks like your tires might stick out past the fenders? That's probably illegal and very unsafe for other motorists... my son's Rubi is the same color, a little different set-up and he has two child carseats in the backseat. How come you have a top on in Florida? Here, in California we go topless all year.
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@Brighton: Your not-knowing how cool blue dots are make me have a feeling I was driving my GPW around the Mojave and Black Rock Deserts when you, well... weren't even born yet. My JK is my 7th Jeep in my lifetime. No matter, you DO make a very good point that my blue dots are somewhat of a fashion statement: I agree. Your UnLtd. is pretty neat and it looks like you DO get it. I dig it. But it looks like your tires might stick out past the fenders? That's probably illegal and very unsafe for other motorists... my son's Rubi is the same color, a little different set-up and he has two child carseats in the backseat. How come you have a top on in Florida? Here, in California we go topless all year.
First, I'm probably as old as you, or close to it. Let's just say I've lived a good long life, including spending 35 years in the traffic engineering/traffic safety field. Much of that time was applying standards to improve highway safety, so I do take it seriously. I've been in court testifying when people do stupid things (not to say that applies to you). Now that I'm mostly retired, I get to spend a lot of my time taking jeep trips throughout the Southeast because, quite frankly, jeeping in the mud and swamps in Florida gets boring.

As far as my jeep, to the best of my knowledge, everything on my jeep is completely legal in Florida, including my tires and fenders, but thanks for looking out for me.

I ride topless about 8 months of the year, but in the summer I tend to leave it up because it rains just about every day, and I get tired of putting it up and down several times a day if I'm using the jeep. Where I'm at, from October to May, it's top down weather. June through September, and my top is mostly up except when I'm driving on the beach, or taking a ride at night in the cool breeze.

Oh, and while I've had 4x4's in the past, this is my first jeep (not counting the Liberty I had before the JKU) and I love it. I waited much too long in life to buy my first jeep, but in the 4 years I've owned it, I've been making up for lost time. I envy people like you that had a lifetime of jeeps.
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@Brighton, you seem like a nice guy, truce! Let's be pals. I'm just in a really foul mood as of late, I think I may need to change my anti-depressants! I love Florida... Marco Rubio & Jeb Bush... excellent! The hope for our country comes from Florida! [and Kentucky] Out here, we just have liberal lunatics, Jerry Brown, and the Sierra Club- I just use my 4low to forget about the world for awhile. My son's Rubi is the same color as yours- fact, they are nearly the same in outward appearances.
My JK is dozer because I like to go quietly, undetected through the rocks of the San Bernardino Mountains!
I hope we talk again.
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coony, we may be more alike than you may think. California has some fantastic places, but the politics in Florida are more to my liking, especially Rubio, hopefully our next president..although I'd vote for Jeb in heartbeat. Best governor we've had since I've been here. Actually got to meet him and talk to him briefly when he was governor.

Now back to the topic of jeeps...

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