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Old 03-28-2008, 02:35 PM   #1
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6 Speed or Auto?

Before I place my order for my JK 4-door Sahara I wanted to get some expert opinions on which way to go. My jeep will be used as a daily M-F and will likely see some trails on the weekend. I don't foresee any major off roading. I'm also thinking 10 years from now.......when and if I decide to sell, what's going to sell 6sp or auto? Also, are there any other pros/cons with either because it is a Jeep?

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Automatic Wranglers are just wrong.........IMO, I wouldnt even consider owning an automatic Wrangler.

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off the road an auto tranny is mch better.
the more difficult the terrain the better it is with an auto tranny.

and go with the 2.8 CRD diesel. itīs more powerful than the V6 gasoline-engine.
i drove both engines and the V6 always needs more RPMs and doesn't have that much torque.
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My 6-speed manual transmission 3.8 V-6 gives me 25.4 mpg.....nuff said!!

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if a good milage is the only thing you want donīt buy a jeep.
it needs more fuel than nearly all other cars, it deosnīt matter whether it has a gasoline or diesel engine or a manual or auto tranny.

all people i know buy off-road vehicles (especially jeeps drivers) because they want to drive off the road. they want a jeep with the best off-rod capabilities. the mileage is of secondary importance.

if you want good off-road cpabilities and a good mileage, buy the 2.8L CRD with auto tranny.
it has a mileage of +30 mpg on the highway and +25 mpg in the city during rush-hour.
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Nic, quit it already will you! We can't get the diesel here, stop rubbing it in! You are killing me!
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Soupy, you get 24mpg?! Thats a big jump from TJs..
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Nic, quit it already will you! We can't get the diesel here, stop rubbing it in! You are killing me!
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Nic, quit it already will you! We can't get the diesel here, stop rubbing it in! You are killing me!
I was in Canada the other day, it occured to me to check and see if they are keeping the Euro-spec diesel JK's a secret up there, but if so, they are doing a REALLY good job, cuz no one there knows about them either!
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Nic, quit it already will you! We can't get the diesel here, stop rubbing it in! You are killing me!
is it my fault that you can only buy the low-power V6 in the US...?


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I was in Canada the other day, it occured to me to check and see if they are keeping the Euro-spec diesel JK's a secret up there, but if so, they are doing a REALLY good job, cuz no one there knows about them either!
here are some facts about the 2.8 CRD.

Cubic Capacity 2777 cc
Configuration 4 cylinders in line
Bore x Stroke 94.0 x 100.0 mm
Compression Ratio 17.5:1
Fuel Delivery Diesel direct injection
Maximum torque 295 lb ft @ 2000-2600 rpm
Maximum power 174 bhp @ 3800 rpm
Gearbox 5 speed automatic
Fuel Type Diesel


CO2 Emissions 255 g/km
Combined Cycle 29.1 (9.7) mpg (l/100 km)
Extra Urban Cycle 34.4 (8.2) mpg (l/100 km)
Urban Cycle 23.3 (12.1) mpg (l/100 km)


check the UK jeep site for some more info: www.jeep.co.uk
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Nic, quit it already will you! We can't get the diesel here, stop rubbing it in! You are killing me!
If you really want a diesel, this may be good news for you.

http://blogs.jpmagazine.com/6238293/...ate/index.html
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if a good milage is the only thing you want donīt buy a jeep.

it needs more fuel than nearly all other cars, it deosnīt matter whether it has a gasoline or diesel engine or a manual or auto tranny.

all people i know buy off-road vehicles (especially jeeps drivers) because they want to drive off the road. they want a jeep with the best off-rod capabilities. the mileage is of secondary importance.

if you want good off-road cpabilities and a good mileage, buy the 2.8L CRD with auto tranny.
it has a mileage of +30 mpg on the highway and +25 mpg in the city during rush-hour.
The OP is about transmissions.
There are very few times when I think an auto tranny would have been nice. But thats usually in the city when I've got a cup of coffee and trying to talk on the phone. They (autos) are better for rock crawling, but how many rocks do you have where you are? I personally like the manual transmission because it doesn't roll away on decents and I don't mind shifting into the gear I need to be in.
The diesel is not a debate here in the States, its just not available. If your going to do a motor swap, go for real power and get a V8.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:38 AM   #13
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Diesel is great, the prices stink! I don't know about jeeps but the knew trucks have new emission ratings so they don't get the great mileage anymore. I know a few people who have bought new diesels and overlooked that. In the Chicago area, diesel is running 4.19 and up per gallon.

Answering the original question...I bought automatic transmission, it's my daily driver and I am long past thinking stick shift is fun, at the end of the work day I just want to relax and cruz home.

Mileage sucks but I went with the rubicon so I knew going in. What I didn't consider is mpg vs tank size, I really hate pumping gas and now I get to do it more often.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:40 PM   #14
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I would go auto, you get to enjoy the terrian more with worrying about what gear your in.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:49 PM   #15
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Manual trans make it more fun to drive.
Maybe for Rock crawling it is better an automatic tranny but the rest I will go with a manual tranny.
Each time that we go to a trail after heavy rain al the automatic TJ's,Zj's and Yj's has to change their transmission fluids.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:48 AM   #16
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I had a new Mini Cooper fry it's Getrag manual several times on me; BMW bought it back and asked me what specs I wanted on the new car. I opted for the 6-speed semi-auto box --- the added benefit being that my wife could drive it too, making dealer visits and whatnots easier.
Fast forward a few months and we're grocery shopping on a Sunday morning. My heart went into v-fib and I had a massive heart attack at the tender young age of 44. Because I got the AT, she got me to the local ER in less than 1 minute (she's been to race school too at Talledega).
Just something else to think about. Can your spouse drive it if she had to?
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:14 AM   #17
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I drove my kid's 99 manual the other day. Had a blast in it and thought dang, I wish I went manual....then hubby said, What about me? He shattered his left leg a few years back in a 4 wheeler accident. Wouldn't be as fun for him, so while I had a regret or a brief moment, I'm still good with the auto.
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:41 AM   #18
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I ordered a manual on my new Rubicon and love it. It's quite fun driving with the stick and wouldn't change for the world. In fact, someday when I will need to replace my current Wrangler, I'll get a stick on that one too. There are some drawbacks... it's harder to drink my coffee or use a phone while driving (unless I get to a long enough patch of road where I can cruise for a few minutes).
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, if it ain't a stick it ain't legit! Save the auto's for the mini van crowd. And yes I do rock crawl with a manual, it just takes some fancy foot work.
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I also went back and forth on the 6 speed vs. auto decision. After numerous hours of contemplation I opted for the automatic. The main reason behind my decision was based on my daily commute. I couldn't imagine dealing with constant shifting during stop & go traffic. Just my reality I suppose! Jeeps are great regardless of the tranny!
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P.s.:

As per my first post in this thread, I note:

The 25.4 I got on my trip to Florida, which is a relatively "flat" drive, was 23.4 going to Ohio, which is a relatively hilly drive.

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For an everyday driver, a relaxing off-road vehicle, and because I live in a big city (Phoenix) and always have a coffee and / or a cell phone going... Automatic is the way to go. Oh yeah, I like to Jeep with a beverage in my hand... need an auto for that for sure. If non of the above applies... stick is the way.
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Its a Chrysler....I wouldnt own an automatic Chrysler...Ive replaced to many of em......The only real reliability prob with the 6 speed is reverse and if ya have a brain ya wont break that ...Gary
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I think Smeg said this once, "autos is for girls"
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