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Old 12-27-2013, 11:49 AM   #1
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AEV 2.5" lift possible issue?

Installed the 2.5" dualsport in my '14 JKUR over the past couple days. I buttoned everything up and went for a test drive. Everything felt great. Later on, I was backing out of a space and cutting the wheel pretty hard and felt a hard clunk in the steering. After inspection, one of the bolts on the tie rod had hit the new AEV sway bar bracket. After that hit, I can turn the wheel lock to lock no problem. Do I have the bracket in wrong? Any insight into this?? See pics.



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Couple better pics from the top. Definitely tight clearance wise



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Couple better pics from the top. Definitely tight clearance wise



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Can you roll the clamp on the Tie Rod? It looks like if you roll that clamp you'll gain clearance between the bolt and the bracket.

You may be able to rotate that clamp 90* and get yourself some more clearance.

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They are usally pretty close, loosen and rotate the clamp towards the front of the Jeep.
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Old 12-27-2013, 01:52 PM   #5
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Get rid of those POS brackets. Order two of these and install them instead of the OEM sway links and those dumb brackets. Problem solved.

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Get rid of those POS brackets. Order two of these and install them instead of the OEM sway links and those dumb brackets. Problem solved. Crown Automotive 52060011AB - Rear Sway Bar Link for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec P.S. Yes I know I linked you to a rear sway link...these are what you want for the front of your JKUR with your new lift.
Yep. I agree 300%

That's a great idea. We installed the backs on front and used TF links for the rear. Another option is disco's

I don't know why dafuq AEV uses those stupid brackets up front
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Ah ok. I've read a bunch of times about using rear links on the front and it didn't make sense until now. Appreciate the help!
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take a grinder and knock the corner of the bracket off. I did away with my aev brackets and added the rear links.
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I have an extra set of rear links I will sell for $30 shipped. They are off a 12 jk.
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I have an extra set of rear links I will sell for $30 shipped. They are off a 12 jk.
Fair price. Will you include some fine Montana backstrap?
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Fair price. Will you include some fine Montana backstrap?
only from roadkill which is now legal to harvest in Montana. I expect to see the sale of heavy duty bumpers sky rocket as ammo has gotten too expensive lol.
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I have an extra set of rear links I will sell for $30 shipped. They are off a 12 jk.
Thanks for the pics and offer. I already ordered the rear links from Quadratec though.
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only from roadkill which is now legal to harvest in Montana. I expect to see the sale of heavy duty bumpers sky rocket as ammo has gotten too expensive lol.
Sweet! Sounds like your whole state is going to start playing bumper cars with these beasts. As for ammo prices, just wait until the lead ammo ban goes nationwide. Thanks Obama!
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Sweet! Sounds like your whole state is going to start playing bumper cars with these beasts. As for ammo prices, just wait until the lead ammo ban goes nationwide. Thanks Obama!
I am just waiting for a heard of Elk to get taken out by a Honda civic lol.

I am down to about 2000 rounds of 9mm I need to start stock piling again. local ammo manufacturer HSM (thehuntingshack.com) told me they have enough orders to work for a year without taking another order. yup BO has been awesome for gun owners and health care providers, at least he has been creating lots of jobs.....
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I had the same issue and the previous posts are correct in upgrading the components! I added a JKS front trac bar-JKS quick discos!
And have had no problems with lock to lock and drives like a dream.........
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Installed the 2.5" dualsport in my '14 JKUR over the past couple days. I buttoned everything up and went for a test drive. Everything felt great. Later on, I was backing out of a space and cutting the wheel pretty hard and felt a hard clunk in the steering. After inspection, one of the bolts on the tie rod had hit the new AEV sway bar bracket. After that hit, I can turn the wheel lock to lock no problem. Do I have the bracket in wrong? Any insight into this?? See pics.
I had read about this issue as well as seen a few photos of it but figured that when I installed AEV's 2.5" kit on my new '14 that is simply wouldn't happen to me. On my first test drive after completing the install a few weeks ago I heard and felt a pop or bang when making a turn. I wondered if it was this. Upon inspection after arriving home I saw that I did indeed have the same issue. For the short term I'm still running the bracket but with the corner ground off.



I simply don't understand AEV's reluctance to address the issue. The CNC cut, stamped, and powder baked bracket can't be lining AEV's coffers with more money than were they to include a set of factory rear links to be used up front instead of the brackets. While I'm happy with the AEV kit I'd like to see them fix issues such as this.
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I had read about this issue as well as seen a few photos of it but figured that when I installed AEV's 2.5" kit on my new '14 that is simply wouldn't happen to me. On my first test drive after completing the install a few weeks ago I heard and felt a pop or bang when making a turn. I wondered if it was this. Upon inspection after arriving home I saw that I did indeed have the same issue. For the short term I'm still running the bracket but with the corner ground off.



I simply don't understand AEV's reluctance to address the issue. The CNC cut, stamped, and powder baked bracket can't be lining AEV's coffers with more money than were they to include a set of factory rear links to be used up front instead of the brackets. While I'm happy with the AEV kit I'd like to see them fix issues such as this.
AEV's argument was apparently the front links would be available should you break one. this makes no sense as the rear links should be just as available. Seems like they could add a few dollars to the price of the kits and supply the better links. They do in the right hand drive kits.
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AEV's argument was apparently the front links would be available should you break one. this makes no sense as the rear links should be just as available. Seems like they could add a few dollars to the price of the kits and supply the better links. They do in the right hand drive kits.
I wouldnt be surprised if those links would cost AEV the same or less money than those brackets. There is simply no good argument for those brackets. IF you have a break on the trail of a sway link, you can literally find a nice straight stick, chop it to length, widdle away two holes, put the bolts through, and drive home (you can technically drive home without the links, but still.) Their argument with availability is ridiculous.
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I'm pretty surprised at this oversight in the kit too. Seems pretty damn simple to reshape the bracket a bit and avoid this problem. Or just include different links. Kind of like how the directions just tell you to install the passenger side shock, and leave out the fact that it's damn near impossible without some unconventional methods
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I wouldnt be surprised if those links would cost AEV the same or less money than those brackets. There is simply no good argument for those brackets. IF you have a break on the trail of a sway link, you can literally find a nice straight stick, chop it to length, widdle away two holes, put the bolts through, and drive home (you can technically drive home without the links, but still.) Their argument with availability is ridiculous.
I agree. it would add a few dollars at most to the kits. I am close to AEV's r&d shop (the company started here and the owner lives here) they are nice people but I am starting to feel less inclined to get the 2.5 dualsport kit when I upgrade from their 2" lift. I think sometimes when one gets too successful they may loose their edge. My good buddy is the owners insurance agent and he told me that Dave has done very very well finance wise.
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I'm pretty surprised at this oversight in the kit too. Seems pretty damn simple to reshape the bracket a bit and avoid this problem. Or just include different links. Kind of like how the directions just tell you to install the passenger side shock, and leave out the fact that it's damn near impossible without some unconventional methods
Most people forget that AEV lifts aren't actually made by AEV/designed by AEV. They are an acquisition from a company called Nth degree, which did the engineering. AEV simply left the lift as is, and is just making excuses for bad parts so that they don't need to re-tool and change the lifts. The only reason why I'm not b!tching is that I knew that for $950, you are not going to get a fully complete lift. Something will always be missing. In my eyes, a nice 2.5" lift that is 100% complete and done right (my definition of "done right) costs around $1300-$1500.
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I agree. it would add a few dollars at most to the kits. I am close to AEV's r&d shop (the company started here and the owner lives here) they are nice people but I am starting to feel less inclined to get the 2.5 dualsport kit when I upgrade from their 2" lift. I think sometimes when one gets too successful they may loose their edge. My good buddy is the owners insurance agent and he told me that Dave has done very very well finance wise.
Im sure Dave is doing VERY well. I still think that the lifts (although not made by AEV) are great when fully completed with accompanying mods, and no lift for $1000 comes with everything, so its not big deal. All products that are designed/built/thought of by AEV are the best in the business (front/rear bumper, fuel caddy, tire carrier, corner armor, hemi conversions, etc.)
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AEV's argument was apparently the front links would be available should you break one. this makes no sense as the rear links should be just as available. Seems like they could add a few dollars to the price of the kits and supply the better links. They do in the right hand drive kits.
I argued those exact same points at AEV's forum and got no response from AEV.

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There is simply no good argument for those brackets...Their argument with availability is ridiculous.
I could not agree more.
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I wouldnt be surprised if those links would cost AEV the same or less money than those brackets. There is simply no good argument for those brackets. IF you have a break on the trail of a sway link, you can literally find a nice straight stick, chop it to length, widdle away two holes, put the bolts through, and drive home (you can technically drive home without the links, but still.) Their argument with availability is ridiculous.
This post is full of win rofl
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Can you guys take a tape and measure how long the rear links are. As well as how long the fronts+ bracket are please? Are they the same or is it close?

I'm about to purchase this lift but don't want to add the rear links if they are "close enough".

Also seems silly this lift isn't as complete as I would expect from AEV.
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Can you guys take a tape and measure how long the rear links are. As well as how long the fronts+ bracket are please? Are they the same or is it close?

I'm about to purchase this lift but don't want to add the rear links if they are "close enough".

Also seems silly this lift isn't as complete as I would expect from AEV.
Its not about the length...its about strength, clearance, and the angle the links sit at because of these stupid brackets.
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the AEV brackets are ball park at best simply because the 2.5" kit shares the same bracket as the 2" kit, if they were precise they would have longer brackets in the 2.5" kit. The stock rear links are slightly longer then the the stock front links with aev brackets, which seems like a good thing otherwise with the 2.5" kit your swaybar is not going to be level as it is not level with the 2" kit. The stock rear links measure ~8.75 eye to eye. the fronts and aev brackets are ~8.5"
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the AEV brackets are ball park at best simply because the 2.5" kit shares the same bracket as the 2" kit, if they were precise they would have longer brackets in the 2.5" kit. The stock rear links are slightly longer then the the stock front links with aev brackets, which seems like a good thing otherwise with the 2.5" kit your swaybar is not going to be level as it is not level with the 2" kit. The stock rear links measure ~8.75 eye to eye. the fronts and aev brackets are ~8.5"
Awesome. Thanks for taking the time to do that and the speedy reply.
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Just to follow up- I received the rear links and installed them in place of the factory front links+AEV bracket. The rears are pretty much the same length as the crappy bracket setup, and look so much cleaner. The pics below will show the two side by side. Thanks again for the awesome advice on here!



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Just to follow up- I received the rear links and installed them in place of the factory front links+AEV bracket. The rears are pretty much the same length as the crappy bracket setup, and look so much cleaner. The pics below will show the two side by side. Thanks again for the awesome advice on here!
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