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Old 03-03-2014, 08:57 AM   #1
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Banks "ram air" system

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Does anyone have this? Wondering your thoughts on it. Also it says up to 09 but I have a 2010.. Is there a major difference or would it still work? It looks like in one of the reviews someone installed on a 2011 but they could have clicked the wrong link so I want to make sure before I buy

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3.8 is a 3.8. I don't think there's any difference.

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Old 03-03-2014, 12:15 PM   #3
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That's what I'm thinking too but you know know if they randomly relocated something between one year or the other or something like that
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Had one installed on my 13 3.6L and drove down the street and OMG unless your say 18-22 and ENJOY THE NOISE... Don't do it! I love banks and thought I'd love that air intake-too loud!!! Just my .02 Uninstalled and SOLD ASAP.
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Had one installed on my 13 3.6L and drove down the street and OMG unless your say 18-22 and ENJOY THE NOISE... Don't do it! I love banks and thought I'd love that air intake-too loud!!! Just my .02 Uninstalled and SOLD ASAP.
Lol 24 and my other car is a loud mustang
Did you have it long enough to notice any difference in MPG?
I'm getting 10 right now so I'm trying to see what I can do to squeeze a little more out of her
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:32 PM   #6
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I have an 09 manual and installed it, I can't tell if I gained or lost MPG. I don't drive that much. It does sound "cool" shifting gears and hearing the "woooosh" sound LOL. It does "look" better than stock .

I'm actually going to sell it and go back to stock , cause I'm paranoid about driving it in the sand. I heard internet "rumors" of it not being good in dusty / sandy conditions and that's most of my driving in the summer out in Moab , Co and AZ.

I received it as a xmas gift.

I think for the price , you can probably get a better MOD for the Jeep than CAI..just my .2
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Save your money for other MODS.

Your Wranglers air induction system is already designed for the maximum CFM air flow and efficiency, plus the correct absolute micron filtration rating. So what you already have right out of the factory, is the optimum for performance and filtration..........
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:54 AM   #8
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Well but I'm thinking about it more for mpg than for performance per say...
I'm literally getting 10 mpg and I know you don't buy a jeep for fuel effenciency but I'd still like to get better than 10
I put a CAI and throttle body on my mustang and it helped a lot so that's why I'm thinking of starting there

Also I'm in Chicagoland so not a lot of sand here either.
I know swapping the wheels for more practical daily driving wheels/tires would help but honestly I love having the option of driving anywhere I want at any time lol

And I'm not so sure if the computer has been calibrated for them big wheels either
(Bought it used with these wheels/tires)
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A gear swap can help the MPG by allowing the motor to work in its optimal range. Do you know what gear ratio it's running?
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Lol 24 and my other car is a loud mustang
Did you have it long enough to notice any difference in MPG?
I'm getting 10 right now so I'm trying to see what I can do to squeeze a little more out of her
If you are doing this for mileage, it will take about 18.768 years to pay out.......if ever. My experience with an aftermarket intake vs stock is that the stock got better mileage......slightly
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10 mpg????
I just got a gently used '09 with only 28,000 miles on it. I had heard about the bad mileage on these, but my 2000 Chevy Express 1500 w/5.7 Vortec gets a whopping 10 to 11 in the winter, so I figured.....how bad can the Jeep be.
Well, I'm pleasantly surprised! I'm getting anywhere (according to the avg mpg comp) 18 to 20 mpg!!!!!!!
But I admittedly drive it like a bit of a poo-say. Sort of like I had an egg under the pedal.
Hell, if I want fast I'll jump on my 181 RWHP ZX11.
And then have to worry about getting an "award" from Johnny Law.

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10 mpg???? I just got a gently used '09 with only 28,000 miles on it. I had heard about the bad mileage on these, but my 2000 Chevy Express 1500 w/5.7 Vortec gets a whopping 10 to 11 in the winter, so I figured.....how bad can the Jeep be. Well, I'm pleasantly surprised! I'm getting anywhere (according to the avg mpg comp) 18 to 20 mpg!!!!!!! But I admittedly drive it like a bit of a poo-say. Sort of like I had an egg under the pedal. Hell, if I want fast I'll jump on my 181 RWHP ZX11. And then have to worry about getting an "award" from Johnny Law. Chris
I'm driving that way now. I'm still getting used to it also so I'm hoping once I'm more used to it it'll get better. I've been driving small manual cars for the last 4 years and now I have big automatic jeep lol my entire left side is pretty useless feeling lol

Do you have the stock wheels on yours?
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A gear swap can help the MPG by allowing the motor to work in its optimal range. Do you know what gear ratio it's running?
No I'm not sure
I bought it used, it's a 2010
I think it's an Islander edition

Unfortunately I bought it at a Kia dealer and not a jeep dealer so basically all they knew was that it was a jeep lol
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Pro-Comp 6-spoke 18', but using stock tires yet.....Bridgestone 255/70 (or75)x18. When it warms up.......3' lift and 315/65x18's.
But, maybe the stick gives me a little better MPG over the automatic.
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Well but I'm thinking about it more for mpg than for performance per say...
I'm literally getting 10 mpg and I know you don't buy a jeep for fuel effenciency but I'd still like to get better than 10
I put a CAI and throttle body on my mustang and it helped a lot so that's why I'm thinking of starting there

Also I'm in Chicagoland so not a lot of sand here either.
I know swapping the wheels for more practical daily driving wheels/tires would help but honestly I love having the option of driving anywhere I want at any time lol

And I'm not so sure if the computer has been calibrated for them big wheels either
(Bought it used with these wheels/tires)
I'm in the south loop, I can let you "borrow" mine, if you like the performance, I'll sell it to you for half off, it only take a few minutes to install. Just PM if your interested
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A vote for gearing. Then ProCal it.

Check for the tag on the rear axle cover bolts. Should state gear ratio. Then google a tire/gear ratio calculator and plug in some numbers. Sounds like you are having to mash on the gas or are shifting up/down a lot and burning excess fuel.
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The best gas savings I gained with my 3.8 is a Diablosport tuner I have 33" tires so I set that on the tuner & Allthough I have 411 gears mine is set to a 87 octane tune which I have better throttle response shift points and all this made a real 3mpg increase with better drivability another thing you can try is turn your overdrive off every time you go anywhere if you have bigger wheels unless you can afford to regear that would be best
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Soo got my build sheet
I have 3.73 gears
(Unless the PO changed them which I doubt. I don't think my baby has ever been off-road)
And BF measured wheels yesterday and I have 35s
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Soo got my build sheet
I have 3.73 gears
(Unless the PO changed them which I doubt. I don't think my baby has ever been off-road)
And BF measured wheels yesterday and I have 35s
I bet your computer hasn't been adjusted for your new wheel size. Your fuel economy, odometer, and speedo are probably understated.
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I bet your computer hasn't been adjusted for your new wheel size. Your fuel economy, odometer, and speedo are probably understated.
That's what I'm thinking too Is the effect on the mpg a lot if you aren't going off of the computer on the jeep? I have an app on my phone tag I've used for all of my cars, Carminder
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Gears will do it. If you want to spend the money on your intake get a snorkel. It will give you some ram air and is a true CAI. But you realy need to get a Pro Cal or Superchip or anything that can adjust for your tire size.
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Yes, get it re-calibrated for your tire size, and forget about a different air cleaner system, (DON'T DO IT)...........
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That's what I'm thinking too Is the effect on the mpg a lot if you aren't going off of the computer on the jeep? I have an app on my phone tag I've used for all of my cars, Carminder
The relative impact will be exactly the same because no matter what because your odometer is off. Even if you are hand calculating how many miles you are getting per tank, it is still the wrong number because you are traveling more miles than you odometer is actually showing....so you are really getting more miles per gallon than you are calculating.
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Had one installed on my 13 3.6L and drove down the street and OMG unless your say 18-22 and ENJOY THE NOISE... Don't do it! I love banks and thought I'd love that air intake-too loud!!! Just my .02 Uninstalled and SOLD ASAP.
My 13 came with the Banks. It gets 30% more MPG and 20% more HP so I'll sell you mine

I dont know before and after but like Andrews its too annoying for me. Im installing OE back soon.
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My 13 came with the Banks. It gets 30% more MPG and 20% more HP so I'll sell you mine I dont know before and after but like Andrews its too annoying for me. Im installing OE back soon.
I'm buying jax's but thanks
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The factory installed filtration system, is by far the best for your engine.
These after market systems, are just sales gimmicks. They are hoping to be able to sell to the portion of the market place, that are gullible enough to be sucked in!
It's very sad to see this happen to people!!!!!!
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The factory installed filtration system, is by far the best for your engine. These after market systems, are just sales gimmicks. They are hoping to be able to sell to the portion of the market place, that are gullible enough to be sucked in! It's very sad to see this happen to people!!!!!!
I'm buying it. Period
I don't know what the deal is with this forum. Everyone is all nice till a cold air intake is mentioned and then it's war.

I don't plan on suba diving in my jeep and it's my DD so it's going to be spending most of it's time on the road.
And most importantly it's mine.

At this point my decision is made I'm just trying to get input on my gas milage but I didn't want to make another thread on the issue. If anyone has any ideas that don't involve not having this "ram air" let me know.
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The factory installed filtration system, is by far the best for your engine. These after market systems, are just sales gimmicks. They are hoping to be able to sell to the portion of the market place, that are gullible enough to be sucked in! It's very sad to see this happen to people!!!!!!
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I have an after market CAI installed, i have a wrap shield that keeps any excess spray water out, and its tested. I love mine. i have the stock so i can always .. put it back on
and head to the dealer if needed, but after 2 years of using mine. no issues, works great, easy to clean, etc. i do it each time i change the oil.

i agree. first hand experience is worth alot.

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