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Old 04-19-2014, 11:11 PM   #1
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Best 3-4" lift

So I have a question, doing too much reading and my head it spinning.

I have a '14 JKU.

eventually I want to upgrade the tires to 33 or so. But I have changed the wheels and now I want to lift.

I don't want to do any driveshaft or exhaust work for this.

I want to retrain the best road mannerisms

I want to take it off road, but not much around here and noting extreme anyway.

Reasonable price, what's your recommendation?
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:16 PM   #2
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Read a few threads on lifts and you will find that 2.5" will usually provide more lift than advertised and any more lift leads to other mods and repairs in the medium to long term.

There is nothing wrong with a taller Jeep, just understand the ramifications, but if you with a 3"+ make sure it is high quality (TF, RK, RE, AEV, MC) and 33" tires will look disproportionately small (the roller skate look). Take a look at some of the picture threads and you will see tons of pictures of different tire and lift combos.

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Read a few threads on lifts and you will find that 2.5" will usually provide more lift than advertised and any more lift leads to other mods and repairs in the medium to long term. There is nothing wrong with a taller Jeep, just understand the ramifications, but if you with a 3"+ make sure it is high quality (TF, RK, RE, AEV, MC) and 33" tires will look disproportionately small (the roller skate look). Take a look at some of the picture threads and you will see tons of pictures of different tire and lift combos.
Well said ^
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I was in your same boat and after weeks of reading and research I am going with the RockKrawler lift. The good think I like about RockKrawler is their warranty its idiot proof. Also I have heard a lot of good things about their customer service. I cant speak for the lift as I dont have mine installed yet but as soon as I do I will .

Read Kjeeper's thread for lifts it will help a lot.
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:53 AM   #5
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I just put the Rubicon Express 3.5" standard lift. By the end of the installation I decided to upgrade to the Super-Flex short arm kit to realign the caster without using the cam bolts. My 2014 JKU Polar has 32" tires and I don't think it looks out of proportion. I think it will look better with bigger tires so new wheels and 35" tires are in the works. There's no one kit that works for everyone. You'll get a different opinion from each person here.there are a lot of good kits available. Don't skimp. Realize that you'll have to spend more and more money as your project snowballs from one project to the next. If you get a lift, you'll want tires. If you get a big lift you'll need longer brake lines and drive shafts. Then you'll go. Off roading and realize you want to go bigger and the cycle starts over.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:27 PM   #6
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Check out the link in my signature. I have some RK package deals. Or we can make you a custom package. 4" is way too high for 33's. You can fit 33's with no lift. 4" is good for 37's or 40's. 33's look sweet leveled or on a nice 1.5" lift.

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So far I have learned that I want 2.5" lift, I won't go beyond 33", (MAYBE 35") but I want a lift that will stand the test of time.

Springs and shocks!
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So far I have learned that I want 2.5" lift, I won't go beyond 33", (MAYBE 35") but I want a lift that will stand the test of time.

Springs and shocks!
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Well it is hard to beat Rock Krawler and their triple rate coils. You can't go wrong with RK, Teraflex, MetalCloak, AEV and Synergy for longevity. All those will probably outlast the vehicle. I sell all except MetalCloak. The AEV 2.5" is a good kit for the price. They are priced with shocks.

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Check out the link in my signature. I have some RK package deals. Or we can make you a custom package. 4" is way too high for 33's. You can fit 33's with no lift. 4" is good for 37's or 40's. 33's look sweet leveled or on a nice 1.5" lift. -Dan
I think you can put 35s in there. 4" lift and 35s look awsome!

It all depends on you, your budget, and wht your gonna use it for.
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So far I have learned that I want 2.5" lift, I won't go beyond 33", (MAYBE 35") but I want a lift that will stand the test of time.

Springs and shocks!
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Well it is hard to beat Rock Krawler and their triple rate coils. You can't go wrong with RK, Teraflex, MetalCloak, AEV and Synergy for longevity. All those will probably outlast the vehicle. I sell all except MetalCloak. The AEV 2.5" is a good kit for the price. They are priced with shocks.

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Yup. A good 2.5" lift and 33s/35s is like peanut butter and jelly. No need to go higher unless you're gonna do specialty work.

Personally, I think a 2.5" lift needs 35s, especially on a JKU. But that's just me. Be aware of the difference in 33s and 35s, re cost...the larger tires are gonna cost you $$ in terms of reinforcement (beefed up Cs, mileage, weight, spare tire carrier, ball joint and brake wear, etc). The smaller the wheel size, the cheaper the tire.

Also, you'll likely end up with more than 2.5", with most lifts.

Just more food for thought.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:54 AM   #12
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So, for all those that are subscribed, I am going to go 2.5", keep my stock tires for now and when I financially recover from the lift, i'll go 33's with the Mickey Tompson.

I got a price on Rubicon Express from a local shop, with Bilstein shocks for 1200 installed.

Its, shocks, coils, sway arm links and brake hose relocation brackets.

Right direction?
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So, for all those that are subscribed, I am going to go 2.5", keep my stock tires for now and when I financially recover from the lift, i'll go 33's with the Mickey Tompson. I got a price on Rubicon Express from a local shop, with Bilstein shocks for 1200 installed. Its, shocks, coils, sway arm links and brake hose relocation brackets. Right direction?

Also, this isn't necessary but if you do take it off/-road I'd get steering stabilizer relocation bracket.

It will make it higher so nothing hits it.
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Looks like the Rubicon Express kit with Bilstein Shocks will be the ticket.
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All Done

So, its done!

My jeep front fenders were at 37" and now at 41"!

I went with the Rubicon Express 3.5" RE7142 with Bilstein 5100 series shocks. They added a dual shock (Also Bilstein) steering damper. An exhaust extension kit was added and the jeep aligned.

I find it to be so stiff, that the nose doesn't drop during braking, and the ass (Rear is you will) doesn't dip during acceleration. I am sure that the height will settle, and some sway will be evident.

Vehicle seems to be precisely as it was on the road before.

So far so good!
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Know it's time for some 35s
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So what happened to 2.5"? You'll definitely need 35s now.
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I agree, I am selling a few items on ebay to raise the funds. I want the Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 in 33", but may go 35"

Regardless of size, what tires are going to give good, wear, traction and price!
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With that much lift, to make it look good, 35s.......
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So, its done!

My jeep front fenders were at 37" and now at 41"!

I went with the Rubicon Express 3.5" RE7142 with Bilstein 5100 series shocks. They added a dual shock (Also Bilstein) steering damper. An exhaust extension kit was added and the jeep aligned.

I find it to be so stiff, that the nose doesn't drop during braking, and the ass (Rear is you will) doesn't dip during acceleration. I am sure that the height will settle, and some sway will be evident.

Vehicle seems to be precisely as it was on the road before.

So far so good!
that was an interesting choice since RE wasn't one of the lifts recommended when you asked and a simple search will show that RE isn't a high quality lift and that a 3.5 lift will probably cause driveshaft issues eventually and it doesn't include any way to correct your pinion/castor.

I'm guessing the lift was recommended by your local offroad shop. They of course love RE lifts because they get them cheap and as an added bonus they get to sell lots of upgrades and inevitable upgrades once customers realize they need something better.

Btw, I fell for the same gambit when I first got my jeep.
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that was an interesting choice since RE wasn't one of the lifts recommended when you asked and a simple search will show that RE isn't a high quality lift and that a 3.5 lift will probably cause driveshaft issues eventually and it doesn't include any way to correct your pinion/castor.

I'm guessing the lift was recommended by your local offroad shop. They of course love RE lifts because they get them cheap and as an added bonus they get to sell lots of upgrades and inevitable upgrades once customers realize they need something better.

Btw, I fell for the same gambit when I first got my jeep.
Maybe RE isn't of the same high quality as RK but you make it sound as if it comparable to RC.

I agree that it seems to be the case that lower end lift kits tend to offer shops better profit margins enticing some of them to push more frequently.
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I have the same lift sitting on 35's I like how it sits and fills in the space I think you would regret 33's

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I have the same lift sitting on 35's I like how it sits and fills in the space I think you would regret 33's

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Same lift, Any driveshaft issues?
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Same lift, Any driveshaft issues?
Not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when".
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None whatsoever.... Haven't had one issue.... Rides straight, no weird tire wear..... Been happy with it. Every vehicle I've owned except my camaro has been lifted and on 35's and this one rides compatible if not better
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None whatsoever.... Haven't had one issue.... Rides straight, no weird tire wear..... Been happy with it. Every vehicle I've owned except my camaro has been lifted and on 35's and this one rides compatible if not better
I am looking at drive shafts, they aren't hard to do and aren't expensive.

Would I need just the front, or both ?

And tires, I KNOW, I KNOW, tires!
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You shouldn't need driveshafts at 3.5 inches 4 and up is where that comes into play.....
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http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/ne...jk-298665.html

it's really a crap shoot. Too many other variables IMO. 2/4 door, shock length, do your disco?, caster angle, if you installed arms or not
Just flat out Crappy luck.

From the lift link vv

When do you need driveshaft's? Adding lift height steepens the angles the driveshaft's operate at. Adding longer shocks will allow the axles to droop further. Disconnecting the swaybar links-even more. If the driveshaft doesn't contact the exhaust/crossover pipe the cv will eventually fail.
Some of the Fixes-Exhaust spacers/y-pipes/limit straps or a smaller ID driveshaft. There is no magic number that says you will or will not have issues at xx height, too many variables. So just make a habit of crawling underneath and looking for split boots and spitting grease. When you do decide to swap out driveshafts, adjustable arms are now very important to set proper pinion angles. **note** In some cases, running a taller lift and aftermarket Drive shaft, some will have to give up caster for pinion angle to prevent vibes, or worst case-the TC damage. Best bet here is a aftermarket housing with 10* separation. Or like mentioned ... Cut and turn the C's
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Nice lift. Are you going to re gear with the 35's tires.
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Re-gear, no, Tires yes and now looking at the drive shafts using 1310 UJ's.

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