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Old 01-04-2014, 01:56 PM   #1
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Can you integrate a back up camera into. 430n Nav on a 2014 JKU?

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Just curious to the above.. A friend of mine has done this with an aftermarket Kenwood navigation system.. Has anyone done this without having to replace the nav?

I have a brand new 2014 JKU Sahara, and loving it so far!

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I just installed one in my 2013 jk using the mygig lockpick. Works awesome and also let's you enter addresses in the gps without stopping the vehicle.
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I installed the NavTool VIM in mine. Works great. Backup cam activates on screen when you put it into reverse. You can also activate the Video in Motion (VIM) function which allows you to have the DVD player function while moving as well as overide the GPS entry lockout when moving. What I like about the NavTool version is that you activate the VIM function by pressing the center button on the rear, left side of the steering wheel controls. This tells the vehicle it's not moving and allows the 430n to operate as though you're stopped. You can deactivate it by pressing 3 times again. Not sure if other devices allow you to active/deactivate on the fly. The reason I like this is that none of your estimated arrival time, etc., with your GPS will work if it thinks you're stopped. By activating it to punch in an address or search for something while moving, and then deactivating it when you've entered your destination, you still get all the functionality of the GPS. Of course, if your passenger is watching a DVD, it's a moot point since, but I got mine so I could easily use a backup cam without having to activate at the dealer and have full functionality with my GPS.

It was very simple to install. No cutting, splicing at all at the headunit. All plug and play.
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I installed the NavTool VIM in mine. Works great. Backup cam activates on screen when you put it into reverse. You can also activate the Video in Motion (VIM) function which allows you to have the DVD player function while moving as well as overide the GPS entry lockout when moving. What I like about the NavTool version is that you activate the VIM function by pressing the center button on the rear, left side of the steering wheel controls. This tells the vehicle it's not moving and allows the 430n to operate as though you're stopped. You can deactivate it by pressing 3 times again. Not sure if other devices allow you to active/deactivate on the fly. The reason I like this is that none of your estimated arrival time, etc., with your GPS will work if it thinks you're stopped. By activating it to punch in an address or search for something while moving, and then deactivating it when you've entered your destination, you still get all the functionality of the GPS. Of course, if your passenger is watching a DVD, it's a moot point since, but I got mine so I could easily use a backup cam without having to activate at the dealer and have full functionality with my GPS. It was very simple to install. No cutting, splicing at all at the headunit. All plug and play.
Great information!! Can you please share how much the parts cost, as well as labor? Where about's did you purchase this?
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I did, but if I had to do it all over again I would put in a separate trail cam system. There was one reviewed not too long ago in JP magazine, but I can't remember who made it. You can use up to 4 cameras anywhere you point them or just use the one for a backup camera.

Much more versatile and would have been way cheaper. The whole set up was less than my NavTool.
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I did, but if I had to do it all over again I would put in a separate trail cam system. There was one reviewed not too long ago in JP magazine, but I can't remember who made it. You can use up to 4 cameras anywhere you point them or just use the one for a backup camera. Much more versatile and would have been way cheaper. The whole set up was less than my NavTool.
Found it. It's the Rubicam by Red Peak. There is a write up in the January 2014 JP magazine.
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What I like about the NavTool version is that you activate the VIM function by pressing the center button on the rear, left side of the steering wheel controls.
Isn't this the button to cycle through the presets? Does that function get disabled?
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Found it. It's the Rubicam by Red Peak. There is a write up in the January 2014 JP magazine.
It would be perfect If their camera could plug into the 430 monitor harness, that would be a big boost for sales, lots more sales.
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Great information!! Can you please share how much the parts cost, as well as labor? Where about's did you purchase this?
Labor was free (installed it myself). Takes about 10 minutes to pop the dash off the Wrangler and remove the 4 bolts holding in the headunit, then plug in the NavTool to the wiring harness. Plug in your camera RCA cable and run it to the back (route it however you like, I went back thru the passenger side). Then figure out how you want to install your camera and rig it up (some install in bumper cover, etc.). Splice red camera wire into one of the backup light wires and ground the black wire. Plug it in and you're done.

Here's the link to where I purchased.

JEEP WRANGLER UNLIMITED 2007-2013 NavTool video interfaces

You can purchase any backup camera you like on ebay for anywhere between $12 & $100. Personally, I'm on the $12 side of it. I've installed several in multiple vehicles and if you're using it for backing up 99% of the time, they'll do just fine and are easily and cheaply replaced if you get moisture in it. When shopping for camera make sure that it has guidance lines (or not if you don't want them), night vision (look at the lux rating to determine how low light conditions it will work) and the width of angle (wider is better). Also, usually if they're listed as backup cameras, the image will be reversed (which is what you want), but check the listing just to make certain.
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Isn't this the button to cycle through the presets? Does that function get disabled?
Yes, it is, and it will change thru three presets, so the functionality is the same, just the inconvenience of having to flip back to the station you want.
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Yes, it is, and it will change thru three presets, so the functionality is the same, just the inconvenience of having to flip back to the station you want.
So the scrolling through presets still works?
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So the scrolling through presets still works?
Yes.
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Does anyone have any pictures of their back up camera installed?
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Hello folks,

Just curious to the above.. A friend of mine has done this with an aftermarket Kenwood navigation system.. Has anyone done this without having to replace the nav?

I have a brand new 2014 JKU Sahara, and loving it so far!

Thanks,

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OP, I just ordered this back up camera, with my 35" BFG all I see is mostly tire in my rear window.
This is a really decent replacement for the stock review mirror. You can also add a front camera with this set up. I have the 730n radio with Uconnect, so I ordered the non Bluetooth model.$250.00 shipped to my front door.

METRA® - OEM Style Rearview Mirror and Back Up Camera

A much cheaper option to consider, hope this helps.
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OP, I just ordered this back up camera, with my 35" BFG all I see is mostly tire in my rear window.
This is a really decent replacement for the stock review mirror. You can also add a front camera with this set up. I have the 730n radio with Uconnect, so I ordered the non Bluetooth model.$250.00 shipped to my front door.

METRA® - OEM Style Rearview Mirror and Back Up Camera

A much cheaper option to consider, hope this helps.
If he doesn't want to integrate into the existing head unit, it opens up all options. You can purchase a small monitor and camera for less than $25. I actually did this in my last truck that didn't have a head unit with a display. Worked great for a backup camera solution. You can also go with the integrated mirror/camera option that you posted (read reviews though, most don't like the rear view mirror since the mirror isn't visually like a standard rear view mirror, so you might not like it).

Like Billet Silver posted, there are many options, but the only options using the 430n are setting up the camera and going through the dealer to activate the option or going with one of the aftermarket units to integrate with the head unit. For me, the NavTool VIM device best fit my needs because it gives me full use of the GPS when moving, which was important to me.

I'll post a pic of my camera mount later. I mounted it on the spare tire carrier with an aluminum mount so that it looks out the spoke of the wheel of my spare tire. Made a simple "L" bracket out of the aluminum about 5" high, drilled the 1" dia hole for the camera near the top. Drilled two screw holes in the mount and drilled and tapped two threaded hole in the tire carrier. used some stainless screws and split washers to attach the camera mount to the spare tire carrier.
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I installed the Lockpick which goes in between the factory headunit and the wiring harness and accepts up to 3 video inputs. I now have the backup camera as well as a front camera which I can turn on on-demand to help me see the ground just in front of the front tires when the going gets rough.
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I installed the Lockpick which goes in between the factory headunit and the wiring harness and accepts up to 3 video inputs. I now have the backup camera as well as a front camera which I can turn on on-demand to help me see the ground just in front of the front tires when the going gets rough.
How do you select cameras to display? Never mind, I'm reading the website.
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I installed the Lockpick which goes in between the factory headunit and the wiring harness and accepts up to 3 video inputs. I now have the backup camera as well as a front camera which I can turn on on-demand to help me see the ground just in front of the front tires when the going gets rough.
That looks like a great system, I'm assuming it works for 2014s with unconnect?
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Does anyone have any pictures of their back up camera installed?
Here's some pics of the camera mounted on the tire carrier. A little more description in my earlier post above.
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Does anyone have any pictures of their back up camera installed?
Installed mine on the rear bumper just above the trailer hitch
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Definitely interested.. thanks for all info!
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My concern with going through the head unit for the back up camera is that if you ever have an issue with the head unit not working properly after you plugged in lockpick or nav tool you may have a challenge with a dealer for warranty repair. Then again if your out of warranty it really does not matter. Of course this may never happen, but if it does heads units are big $$$ to replace. Some dealers just need a good reason not to provide warranty repair especially on electronics if you changed, altered or installed other than OEM products. This was another reason I went with the review mirror LCD back up camera. I had the review mirror camera in a previous pickup truck and it was perfect.

Sure wish Jeep and all auto makers would make backup cameras standard equipment. Just another view point.
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Here's some pics of the camera mounted on the tire carrier. A little more description in my earlier post above.
Nice clean install, no need to drill into the bumper. I like that it's up high and away from road spray. This is where I plan on mounting my camera....right over top of my AEV led brake light. Well done Nuke83.
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I have the Nav-tv harness and the av add-on harness from them. It works great. Seems a little more expensive than some other solutions noted here so you may want to use one of those. I have about 300 in wiring + 75 for quality camera. I used a trailer pigtail and mounted on my spare on a tag relocation bracket along with my 3rd brake light. Here is a bad pic, hopefully you can get an idea of what I've done. One cool thing is if I press the power twice on the 430n, it will turn on the backup cam while driving down the street to give a view for tight lane changes or very heavy traffic. It also plays DVDs and allows Nav inputs that others have noted.
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You don't "need" any harness or devices. Just plug your camera into the OEM ports and have the dealer flash the radio with the Starscan tool if you just want normal backup camera operation. If you want other things to over-ride such as video-in-motion, extra cameras (inputs), add features, then get some module. For ease-of-use and options, I would recommend Nav-TV.

About to install the Nav-TV to allow my iPhone to appear on my 430n display. If it ever warms up enough, I'll install it quickly!

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