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Old 03-26-2014, 12:51 AM   #1
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CB advice?

I'm looking to get a CB, and I was thinking about doing this type of install:

http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-...nd-model-1001z

My question is what would anyone recommend for models?

I also was thinking about getting a splitter so my radio could use the CB antenna, are here ways to mount the CB antenna in the stock antenna location?

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I'm looking to get a CB, and I was thinking about doing this type of install:

Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Affordable Jeep JK Wrangler CB Radio SolutionMidland Model-1001Z

My question is what would anyone recommend for models?

I also was thinking about getting a splitter so my radio could use the CB antenna, are here ways to mount the CB antenna in the stock antenna location?
Depends on what features your looking for in your radio. If you just looking for a radio that is durable and will work well the uniden 510xl always seems to get good reviews for the price (go with the 520xl if you want the pa feature). you can go all out by all means but that doesn't mean that you will get better performance out of it just more features and a flashier get up.

Yes you can buy splitters for your antenna (i know someone on this forum did it pretty sure there is a write up somewhere for it).

Not sure if anybody makes a mount that fits exactly in the stock location but you could probably buy a universal mount and fab something up. Antenna X makes a "CB style" replacement antenna but im pretty sure it just looks like a cb whip and screws into the original antenna location.

Another option if you just want the antenna on that side of the jeep would be to remove the factory antenna (put a trail rated badge there like is on the drivers side). and put something like this up...

Jeep CB Antenna Fender Mount 2007+ | Right Channel Radios

Or go the more typical mounting locations which would be on the tailgate or in the licence plate holder.

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Excuse my ignorance. Pa? As in loudspeaker? If so how does that work with the jeep?

Also: thanks for the antenna advice.

http://www.antennax.com/p-4820-cb-re...imited-jk.aspx

It says it will work for both radio and CB.
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I just finally wired the Cobra CB I have had sitting in the garage for almost a year. I took it out of my old TJ before I kissed her goodbye.

And yes, I had a PA speaker that I installed last night as well. Plugs right into the back of the CB unit and I can see it coming in handy in more places than just on the trail.

Plus the chicks dig it when you yell at them from a lifted Jeep on a loud speaker, trust me I already tried it tonight!
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I just finally wired the Cobra CB I have had sitting in the garage for almost a year. I took it out of my old TJ before I kissed her goodbye. And yes, I had a PA speaker that I installed last night as well. Plugs right into the back of the CB unit and I can see it coming in handy in more places than just on the trail. Plus the chicks dig it when you yell at them from a lifted Jeep on a loud speaker, trust me I already tried it tonight!
Gettin a CB with a PA is priority as soon as I buy this kit and tires for my TJ

Soooo lookin forward to the debauchery that would ensue with me and a couple buddies behind the wheel with one of those
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Excuse my ignorance. Pa? As in loudspeaker? If so how does that work with the jeep?

Also: thanks for the antenna advice.

http://www.antennax.com/p-4820-cb-re...imited-jk.aspx

It says it will work for both radio and CB.
Oh cool I didn't know u could use theirs to split. Wonder how it is grounded. I may have to look into that.

And yes PA is a loudspeaker feature. Most mount it under the hood or behind the front bumper then like stated above it plugs into the cb and your good to go. You can get waterproof loudspeakers off amazon for next to nothing just have to find somewhere for it then.
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Cobra is a good brand. Just find a truck stop in your area, and they usually will have somebody available to peak it out for you. Then install a 102 inch steel whip on a spring loaded base, and make sure that you have a good ground. The wip can be trimmed, to lower your SWRs. This set up should perform good for you.
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Old Dogger is right, you will likely get the best performance from a steel whip, however i have heard a lot of clubs frown upon using steel whips on trail runs for safety reasons. But for an over the road jeep by all means go for it. (just something to keep in mind thats all).
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When it comes to radios, if it's a name brand like Uniden, Cobra, or similar it will all boil down the features (a.k.a cool factors) and price point you want.

As to the mounting location for the radio a couple of points to consider are the size of the radio you pick and the area where you want to mount it. As such you have indicated that you might like to mount it above the rear view mirror. There are many write ups about how to this (several that don't require drilling holes in the plastic btw) but in my case, the radio was too thick, or the mirror too big (auto dimming, LED map lights, etc) to allow that.

When it comes to antennas I have no knowledge of sharing one with the radio (never thought about it to be honest) and a cursory look at the antenna you linked doesn't reveal much specification wise. That said, keep in mind that you have to tune a CB antenna. When it comes tuning, I was very happy I purchased a Firestik Firefly. These are tuned without having to cut the antenna and that has been a huge help to me because I'm an ID10t and have had to re-tune mine several times. (Basically the antenna is never left on the Jeep except for trailing and I've found that after I remove and replace the antenna I almost always have to re-tune.)

That leaves us with antenna placement. I purchased an antenna mount from Arizona Rocky Road and am very pleased with it. On a JK it bolts right over the right side of the tire carrier using existing bolts and accomplishes one important thing. It gets the base of the antenna up above the metal of the Jeep tub and above the stock spare tire. Obviously this is not required as lots of people run theirs below the tub mounted to bumpers and what not, but getting the base up above metal surfaces and other objects help improve performance. (There's a whole bunch of technical jargon I'm leaving out on why that improves performance.)

There's my .02.

I would suggest that you check out FTL Distributing's web site (a supporting vendor). They are kind of a one stop shop for this topic and you can view various radios, antennas, and mounting options.
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Plus the chicks dig it when you yell at them from a lifted Jeep on a loud speaker, trust me I already tried it tonight!
Depends on the caliber of 'chicks' you are looking for.
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my recommendation if looking for a trail use CB, look at the Cobra 19 ultra lll. ive had big radios that were built (connex 3300 and galaxy dx959) and this little Cobra has impressed the poo out of me. for generally under $40 its hard to beat performance wise and is nice and compact. i mounted mine to the side of the center console. overhead is generally a popular place and ive had mine mounted there before, but having a mic cord dancing in your face all the time is a pain. just as trying to put the mic back in the holder if mounted to the side of the CB overhead. im a big fan of Firestik antennas. they tune easily and dont whack around on everything like a whip. whips will by far offer the best performance being a full wave antenna for a 102" whip, but they bang around on everything on the trail. heres my simple setup for further ideas
i made my own antenna bracket out of some 1/8" flat stock. this location isnt the best for performance, but i can at least clear my garage door (7 foot) at home without it beating everything

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<snip>i can at least clear my garage door (7 foot) at home without it beating everything<snip>
There's a lot to be said for that. That's one of the reasons why we never leave the antenna mounted on the Jeep.
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I started poking around on Amazon for a speaker and I came across this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001D0...A19FUVJMKOOQRN
I just put an old cobra in my yj and mounted the old whip just above my tail light. I haven't had much time to play with it but I was listening to some Cajun looney tune the other day and I'm in Massachusetts. I assume he was on a Ham radio. I'll probably drop the money on this speaker and mount it under the Hood.
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As someone who has a cursory background in radios (by no means an expert), I would recommend that you do not try to share the CB antenna with the radio.

While it's technically possible to do it, there are several reasons why it's not a good idea. Every method for sharing the antenna is a compromise that reduces the performance of both the stereo and the CB.

Quite honestly, the antenna is the most important part of the CB setup. The better you can make it, the better your CB will perform. Put a really great antenna on a crap radio and it will still perform well. Put a crap antenna on a top-of-the-line CB and it will perform like crap. It's that simple.

To take that idea a step further, tuning the antenna properly will make as much difference as choosing between quality and crap antennas. An improperly tuned antenna will kill the radio (quite literally if it's bad enough) while a properly tuned antenna can more than double the range of the radio.

And yes, the way the antenna is installed in the Jeep affects the tune. You can buy a used setup that was properly tuned but when you install it in your Jeep, you still need to tune it again.

When you get the radio installed and the antenna set up, take the Jeep to the closest CB shop. You can usually find a good CB shop at or near a big truck stop. Have their technicians tune your antenna for you.

You'll be amazed at how much better the radio is when you have a good quality antenna that's been properly tuned.

And at that point, the only real decision on the radio is what features you want. Pick from any of the big name brands when you find a radio that has the features you want and go with that.
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I forgot to mention, that you can get a quick disconnect for the 102 inch Wip, so it won't be a problem, in and out of the garage!
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Ok, so I have decided on the Uniden 520XL, and the firestik. What size antenna should I get, and where would I realistically be mounting it if I dont want to take it on and off all the time? Do i need a spring for it? what are the benefits of having the spring vs. not?
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The advantage of the spring is, if your antenna hits say a tree limb, then it will deflect/bend over, rather than brake the costly antenna!
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The advantage of the spring is, if your antenna hits say a tree limb, then it will deflect/bend over, rather than brake the costly antenna!
understood.
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Ok, so I have decided on the Uniden 520XL, and the firestik. What size antenna should I get, and where would I realistically be mounting it if I dont want to take it on and off all the time? Do i need a spring for it? what are the benefits of having the spring vs. not?
A lot of people mount antennas on the back door with great success. It's out of the way behind the spare tire but it's still up where you get good signal.

I run a 4 foot tall Firestick on mine.

I just put on an aftermarket bumper and tire carrier to my Jeep so I had to take off the mount I had because it didn't fit with the new tire carrier. It's a Rugged Ridge mount like this one: Rugged Ridge 11503.89 - Rugged Ridge CB Antenna Mount for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

If you want it I'll send it to you for a good discount.
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Subscribed. Lots of good information presented here...thanks for sharing.
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A lot of people mount antennas on the back door with great success. It's out of the way behind the spare tire but it's still up where you get good signal.

I run a 4 foot tall Firestick on mine.

I just put on an aftermarket bumper and tire carrier to my Jeep so I had to take off the mount I had because it didn't fit with the new tire carrier. It's a Rugged Ridge mount like this one: Rugged Ridge 11503.89 - Rugged Ridge CB Antenna Mount for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

If you want it I'll send it to you for a good discount.
Pm sent. It it metal or composite?
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It's metal.

You need a separate ground wire. There's a good write up here: Installed my CB radio. Pics

I think I have a good crimp connector for the ground wire that will fit around the antenna base. I can throw it in the box for nothing.
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You are definitely able to replace the factory AM/FM antenna and just use your CB antenna. I have been running it for over a year now. I am currently running the Firestik splitter but will be replacing it with THIS There has been no reception issues with AM/FM or CB signal, just make sure you use the proper antenna and make sure it is tuned properly. I replaced the factory antenna bezel with another Trail Rated badge to cover the hole up.
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You are definitely able to replace the factory AM/FM antenna and just use your CB antenna. I have been running it for over a year now. I am currently running the Firestik splitter but will be replacing it with THIS There has been no reception issues with AM/FM or CB signal, just make sure you use the proper antenna and make sure it is tuned properly. I replaced the factory antenna bezel with another Trail Rated badge to cover the hole up.
Well now I'm more inclined to just mount a firestik in the factory antenna spot. Arghhh. Decisions!

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