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Old 11-18-2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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Dealer offering a "Nitro Fill".....

Hey all,
Got some service coupons today from my dealer. One especially interested me.
A nitro tire fill promising better ride, handling and mileage. Anyone ever here of this??
Enlighten me!!! Cost was $25.00

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Old 11-18-2013, 08:40 PM   #2
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Will not improve ride or handeling, nitrogen only has larger molecules so it is more likely to not seep like air will, but really? Is it hard to maintain the air... Also doe don't expand and contract like normal atmospheric air, race tire , a big deal, every day ride not a biggie. Then what happens when you air down, it's gone. Scheme... Then again he air we breath and already in the tires are already mostly nitrogen.

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Old 11-18-2013, 08:42 PM   #3
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Had it on my BMW 3 series when I replaced the tires. Can't say I saw any real benefit although the literature does make a good sales pitch. I don't think I'd want it on my wrangler though. I don't recall for sure, but I think you'd have to air up with the nitro which would make it difficult and inconvenient. Maybe if your Jeep is strictly for the roads it may be worth it, but not if you're going off road at all.
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I use a hybrid combination of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen with 1% misc gasses. It works awesome and considerably cheaper than straight nitrogen.
In all seriousness I feel it is a waste of money. In theory nitrogen molecules being larger don't leak through the rubber and less reactive to temperature changes blah blah blah. I challenge anyone to notice the ride difference in a double blind study. If you ever air down on a trail you have to have nitrogen to fill. If what they say about nitrogen not seeping through the tire when other gasses do then each time I add air I am increasing the concentration of nitrogen in my tires. Btw the above so called hybrid fill i joked about is normal atmosphere. I get it for free from my compressor.
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Another way to take your money...save the $25.
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I use a hybrid combination of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen with 1% misc gasses. It works awesome and considerably cheaper than straight nitrogen. In all seriousness I feel it is a waste of money. In theory nitrogen molecules being larger don't leak through the rubber and less reactive to temperature changes blah blah blah. I challenge anyone to notice the ride difference in a double blind study. If you ever air down on a trail you have to have nitrogen to fill. If what they say about nitrogen not seeping through the tire when other gasses do then each time I add air I am increasing the concentration of nitrogen in my tires. Btw the above so called hybrid fill i joked about is normal atmosphere. I get it for free from my compressor.
X2^. Well said.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:19 PM   #7
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I was suckered by the nitrogen fill on my wife's car. Waste of money and frankly we had more problems with holding pressure and with temperature variations than we do with plain old air. Whatever the theory may be, for a sample size of one, it was worse.

On my Jeep - even if I bought into the idea of nitrogen fill, I air down when I go offroad and back up often enough that A.) I keep a close eye on tire pressure, and B.) nitrogen wouldn't be practical at all.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:35 PM   #8
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I tried it in a fleet of over 300 trucks, that I was responsible for.
There was no noticeable increase in tire life, so save your $25.00!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:23 PM   #9
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Unless you're going to take your Jeep NASCAR racing just save the $25 and have the tires filled with shop air.
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:32 PM   #10
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unless you are driving a C17 hitting the runway at 140mph you dont need nitrogen.
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Biggest load of poop I've ever heard.....

I'm shocked people actually fall for this.
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BTW a normal tire shop it costs about 2 bucks each tire, so if your gonna waste money on nitro waste a lot less. I only know cuz I was curious and asked.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:29 AM   #13
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Hey all,
Got some service coupons today from my dealer. One especially interested me.
A nitro tire fill promising better ride, handling and mileage. Anyone ever here of this??
Enlighten me!!! Cost was $25.00

I would say no, but I could see large difference in tires pressure while temperature drops outside. With nitrogen it should not happen.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:01 AM   #14
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Mine was sold with Nitrogen in my tires and I have over 46K on my 2012 with rotating every 7500K.

Don't think you will notice much a difference though...
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Biggest load of poop I've ever heard.....

I'm shocked people actually fall for this.

LOL
That's EXACTLY what I thought!!
Thanks for all the responses!!!
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:54 AM   #16
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So you pay the extra $25 and how do you know the Dealer didn't just use 78/21/1 air?

One atmosphere is about 15psi. So lets say they filled your tire to 30psi to keep the math simple. They can't vacuum all the air out so you have 1 atm of air and 2 atm of pure nitrogen. That takes the 78/21/1 to 92.6/7/0.3. You still have 7% other gases. No matter how many times you purge you still will not have pure nitrogen in your tires. You'd have to assemble the tire on the rim in a pure nitrogen environment wearing a scuba tank to eliminate the other gasses.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:06 AM   #17
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the dealership where I bought my jeep from will fill up my tires with nitro for free one time. For my first oil change I'll have them do that. I honestly don't care if I have nitro or not. I had it on my 350z because my friend works at nissan and I got it for free. It didn't fluctuate during the winter time but honestly I could have fill up air at the gas station.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:07 AM   #18
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I say go for it , you can call it a mod
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:21 AM   #19
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It was a PITA, if you need to add nitrogen, and you WILL need to than you have to find a place to add it or go back to the dealer. I got it for free on my Challenger and I wished I hadn't. Every few weeks when the pressure light went off I had to go back the dealer instead of just put a pound or two of air in.
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If you are a formula 1 driver in your formula 1 race car it is beneficial because of your tuned suspension/tire set up is so sensitive, for the rest of the world it makes no sense lol.
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:59 AM   #21
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Get it done, help the economy.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:04 AM   #22
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Same results as a CAI. Save your $.
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Tell them to keep the Nitro and fill the back of your Jeep with cases of Beer for $25.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:32 AM   #24
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It's funny. People will shell out $25 for a nitrogen fill but won't use their $2 tire pressure gauge to check their tire pressure. Want to really improve your tire wear? take the pressure every couple of weeks. Fill it with air, nitrogen, argon, helium, whatever the hell you want, but if you don't maintain the proper pressure, it's all for naught.

^^^BTW, DukeDallas is drinking beer that is WAYYYYY too cheap if he's getting cases (plural) for $25.
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I fill my tires with liberal tears
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We have nitro filled on 3 of our vehicles,
Costco fills with nitrogen all the time on new tires.
They charge 25 because they have to unmount all the tires from the rim and then vac and refill.

On the jeep i wouldnt exp if you are going to air down on trails and refill, its pointless
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I would only do it if the dealer threw in a set of deer whistles. That way you will have a full compliment of unnecessary items.
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We have nitro filled on 3 of our vehicles,
Costco fills with nitrogen all the time on new tires.
They charge 25 because they have to unmount all the tires from the rim and then vac and refill.
On the jeep i wouldnt exp if you are going to air down on trails and refill, its pointless
that made me spew diet coke on my key board lol.
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Old 11-19-2013, 01:49 PM   #29
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Save your $25.00, and apply it toward a air compressor, to keep your tires aired up to the recommended pressure.
Just check them once a month, when your tires are cold, like first thing in the morning.

This way you will receive some value, for your $25.00 spent........
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I say go for it , you can call it a mod

I'm saving for a set of Ranchos!!! lol

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