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Old 01-03-2014, 07:01 PM   #1
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Different Bilstein 5100 Options

Bilstein 5100 shocks come in a few different options.

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Fronts are for lifts of 1.5" to 3" or from 3.5" to 5" (short arm or long arm).
Collapsed length is 14.98" or 16.41", extended length 24.63" or 27.56".

Rears are for 2" lift or 4" lift.
Collapsed 15.39" or 16.96", extended length 25" or 27.36"

I'm getting the Rancho 3" lift on a 2 door and expect to net a bit over 3". I'm also putting on big heavy bumpers and 35's.

My question is this: Which shocks should I get, and what would the difference in application be? I'm at a loss.

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Old 01-08-2014, 10:42 AM   #2
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Bump. Anybody have any info on the applications and implications of different lengths of shocks? Qtec told me yesterday that if I use the wrong ones I would blow them out, but wouldn't say on extension or compression then he disconnected the chat. Rancho could only give me Rancho options.

Am I really that much better off just going with the Rancho RS900 shocks?

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Go with the 9000's or 7000's which are like the 5100's A 10" or 11" travel shock is what you want

With 3" lift and proper bumpstops, the shocks won't get ruined.
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Old 01-08-2014, 12:06 PM   #4
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So, the "blowing them out" answer I got from Qtec was when the shock was compressed too much then?

A)Front PN 24-146708 (1.5"-3" lift) has 9.65" of travel
B)Front PN 24-186995 (short arm lift 3.5"-5") has 11.15" of travel
C)Rear PN 24-146715 (2" lift) has 9.61" of travel
D)Rear PN 33-186887 (4" lift) has 10.4" of travel

From what you're saying, I should get options B and D if I go Bilstein, but you recommend the Rancho shocks instead? Is your reasoning quality-based or is it fitment-based?

Sorry for the hailstorm of technical questions, but I think my questions have annoyed the people at Rancho, Qtec, 4WD, and Bilstein. Nobody wants to explain shock fitment to me in detail. So I thank you for taking time to answer my question (yet again).
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Yes and yes.

Shock length will give you down travel. Lifting 3-4" and running the 9" travel shock makes no sense.

I personally don't care for the 5100's. Heavier 4 doors seem to do better and are popular.

I ran both the 9000, 5100 and now 7000

The 7000's are a firmer more controlled shock but not as firm as the 5100's. The 9000's are kinda in a league of their own being adjustable.
I would run them again for sure.

For the 9000
Rancho 9000 31xl front
Rancho 9000 32xl rear
These are 10.7and 10.4 iirc

7000's I dont have the part #'s on hand but it think the bolt on Shock for the JK runs a bit shorter. (4" shocks)
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Thanks so much for the advice!

I'll probably get the 9000s for the adjustability. I want a smooth ride on the road, but I like that I could adjust them to be stiffer when wheeling.
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Thanks so much for the advice! I'll probably get the 9000s for the adjustability. I want a smooth ride on the road, but I like that I could adjust them to be stiffer when wheeling.
X1000 you will love them. There's a in cab controller available too.
Actually .... I heard Rancho is designing a new Myride.
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We'll crap. I was pretty sold on the 5100s with the AEV 2.5" lift for my 4dr but I keep hearing these ranchos are really good. Any difference with ride quality between the 5100 and 9000/7000? Also would it be worth doing AEV springs and ranchos or just staying with the AEV kit?
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We'll crap. I was pretty sold on the 5100s with the AEV 2.5" lift for my 4dr but I keep hearing these ranchos are really good. Any difference with ride quality between the 5100 and 9000/7000? Also would it be worth doing AEV springs and ranchos or just staying with the AEV kit?
Big difference IMO .... Here's the guy you should talk to NFRs2000NYC
He's installed AEV 2.5, sold the 5100's and used the 9000's
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We'll crap. I was pretty sold on the 5100s with the AEV 2.5" lift for my 4dr but I keep hearing these ranchos are really good. Any difference with ride quality between the 5100 and 9000/7000? Also would it be worth doing AEV springs and ranchos or just staying with the AEV kit?
The 5100s are tuned for the AEV springs. They are a better option for the AEV kit. Many other lifts do not have a tuned set of shocks so the 9000s are popular so you can pick one the adjustable settings.

Adjustable shocks have been around for a while and most owners just pick a setting and leave it there. The 9000s have presets not really independent adjustments. Complete adjustability causes more problems than benefits for the average owner. Of course none of those average owners belong to this forum.

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