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Old 11-19-2013, 12:44 PM   #1
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For those of you with a Snorkel

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Tell me the benefits of running with your snorkel cap backwards. This is the first time ive seen a rig with it this way.

Sheads water? Enlighten me...

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Old 11-19-2013, 01:14 PM   #3
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I run mine forwards. But from what I heard extra protection from splash in deep water.
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Old 11-19-2013, 01:16 PM   #4
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Helps keep the elements out of it. IE, you don't drive 60 in reverse..
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If you do it at slow speeds it won't make a performance difference although it may provide extra protection. If you drive on the highway with it like this you'll create a vortex of low pressure behind the snorkel opening. This will make it harder for the engine to suck air into it and you'll make the engine work harder giving you less MPG and power for no reason. Snorkels are already designed to she'd water just below the ram air intake. It only needs to be reversed for huge slpashes that could send large amounts in. Rain and snow won't hurt it
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If you do it at slow speeds it won't make a performance difference although it may provide extra protection. If you drive on the highway with it like this you'll create a vortex of low pressure behind the snorkel opening. This will make it harder for the engine to suck air into it and you'll make the engine work harder giving you less MPG and power for no reason. Snorkels are already designed to she'd water just below the ram air intake. It only needs to be reversed for huge slpashes that could send large amounts in. Rain and snow won't hurt it
Alright. Thanks for the clarification. I thought that was awfully weird to have it on backwards. Make sense i suppose.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:39 PM   #7
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I have never seen one ran backward till now. Interesting.
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I believe that in a winter storm, driving with it facing forward would have it packed with snow pretty quick...... but I have no personal experience with snorkles.... they sure look cool....
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I believe that in a winter storm, driving with it facing forward would have it packed with snow pretty quick...... but I have no personal experience with snorkles.... they sure look cool....
Some will go in, but its not a huge opening. Some will fall out where rain is meant to fall out. The rest will melt somewhere in the intake. It won't be enough to jam it up or cause the engine to suck up water. Worst case would be a little puddle in your air box. It'd evaporate quick with engine heat tho
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If you run with a sy-klone pre filter problem solved

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Mmmmm interestimg.... is there any snorkle out there that is basically reversible, where you can remove it without mangled body parts???? I'd really like one but it would be for looks, since there's way way more watreproofing to do, to safely be able to drive hood deep in water than I am interested in doing.

Don't like those who ruin and hide the hood....
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Not sure u want it for looks...mpg will go down slightly. I have the AEV and it is well built. I have mine as I am in as and we have a lot of dust and sand.

Not sure what us are after
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:17 PM   #13
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Rugged Ridge makes one:

No cutting or drilling

Exits through the end cap of the cowl at the windshield - it replaces this small piece of cowl

It's modular. You can extend it to the roofline or cap it low to the hood

Looks good. I want one!
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I will need to find the pics. But when the water is coming up over the windshield frame, the snorkel inlet will get a good dousing too. The missus turns into a submarine commander in the ponds around here. One of the things I do at the staging area is spin the snorkel head. Then spin it back when we get back to the staging area. It's just a thing added to the list.


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Found one. This was one of the first times she hit the pond. It is a great shot. My fender was loose and you can see it flying off. I have other pics of me trying to fish it out of the pond.



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I also have the AEV snorkel! Does a good job, ive been in up over the hood with this snorkel and had 0 problems.

I did add some atv sealer to the snorkel - airbox joint just to make sure it stayed dry. I have had no problems and have not found any water inside the airbox.
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I also have the AEV snorkel! Does a good job, ive been in up over the hood with this snorkel and had 0 problems. I did add some atv sealer to the snorkel - airbox joint just to make sure it stayed dry. I have had no problems and have not found any water inside the airbox.
You should look into getting the prefilter
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You should look into getting the prefilter
Something like this?

Pre-Filter Assembly for JK Snorkel - Body / Exterior - Shop By Category
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Yup that pre-filter is made by sy-klone industries model 8001.

I have one and it works great
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I also have the AEV snorkel! Does a good job, ive been in up over the hood with this snorkel and had 0 problems.

I did add some atv sealer to the snorkel - airbox joint just to make sure it stayed dry. I have had no problems and have not found any water inside the airbox.
Is that an LoD bumper?
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Sorry for the hijack, but if waters coming over your hood wouldn't you have to worry about the battery getting wet? I never see anyone mention anything about it
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Battery what battery....don't you all push start?
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Sorry for the hijack, but if waters coming over your hood wouldn't you have to worry about the battery getting wet? I never see anyone mention anything about it
It's tough to short out a battery. Chances are you'd screw your alternator or fuses or electronic connectors first. If your alternator dies it won't be long till the battery dies
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Please, Tell me the benefits of running with your snorkel cap backwards. This is the first time ive seen a rig with it this way. Sheads water? Enlighten me...
In Afghanistan, all of our vehicles had snorkels and they were all backwards. The sand over there is like baby powder. Supposedly, the snorkels were mounted backwards to help with getting a breath of fresh air to the engine. There was no water anywhere, yet all the vehicles had snorkels, so someone somewhere must decided the backwards snorkel was a good idea.
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In Afghanistan, all of our vehicles had snorkels and they were all backwards. The sand over there is like baby powder. Supposedly, the snorkels were mounted backwards to help with getting a breath of fresh air to the engine. There was no water anywhere, yet all the vehicles had snorkels, so someone somewhere must decided the backwards snorkel was a good idea.
I mean i can see the sand messing up your day, but if you didnt plan on going into any water wouldnt it make more sense to draw air from under the hood?

I guess heat would be an issue in those parts. Now that i think of it... i humvee is an alaround vehicle so if you just happen to stumble upon an oasis... Better have a snorkel.
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I mean i can see the sand messing up your day, but if you didnt plan on going into any water wouldnt it make more sense to draw air from under the hood?

I guess heat would be an issue in those parts. Now that i think of it... i humvee is an alaround vehicle so if you just happen to stumble upon an oasis... Better have a snorkel.
The Humvees I had were a mixture of under hood and snorkels. Even the underhood sucked sand. Usually we just yanked the air filter out completely to keep the trucks running when on convoys. Never thought of running the snorkels backwards.
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It's tough to short out a battery. Chances are you'd screw your alternator or fuses or electronic connectors first. If your alternator dies it won't be long till the battery dies
Thats good to know. I never even thought of that.

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The Humvees I had were a mixture of under hood and snorkels. Even the underhood sucked sand. Usually we just yanked the air filter out completely to keep the trucks running when on convoys. Never thought of running the snorkels backwards.
Yeah i suppose it works quite nice in that scenario

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