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Fox ATS or hydro with 37's?

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#1 ·
So is the hype with the ATS really legit? It's certainly a pretty penny for an SS, but I'm just trying to weigh everything out from a cost/benefit standpoint. Hydro assist is certainly a bunch more, but when you're dumping over $300 into an SS, I just want to know if it's worth it to save up and get hydro. My steering isn't bad with 37's, but I feel like it could be better. A buddy of mine has the ATS and says it's great on the highway when there is a lot of wind. He claims thing feel more stable and planted.

OR should I just get some plain-Jane SS and call it a day?

Thoughts?
 
#2 ·
I contemplated the exact same thing.

$300ish(I think really closer to 350) for the ATS and $100 for a sector shaft brace so somewhere in the 450 range.

OR $550 and go to redneck ram hydro steering.

I went the extra $100 and went to redneck ram. The only thing that kind of sucks is either figuring out logistics of sending your factory box to them and being down for 2-3 weeks OR paying the 200-400 core charge(200 was for a chinese box, 400 for a Delphi box) IF they have a box in stock.

Now if you are talking the 2300 bucks for the full PSC kit with pump and all the goodies, then thats a completely different ball park.
 
#5 ·
I would say I do majority of my driving on the highway during the week and off-road pretty moderately on the weekends. No overland stuff, but I'm also not crawling over boulders, so it sounds like the ATS might be the route to take.

However, is the ATS really head and shoulders above a $80-$100 SS? I know it's adjustable and all.
 
#11 ·
The Fox ATS and hydro assist do different things. The ATS is a steering stabilizer, but it does not add any assist at all. So if you need to be able to steer easier with the front diff locked, get the hydro.

I've got the Fox ATS, and I think it does help some with on road handling. But its hard for me to say because I have a PR 60 Unlimited front axle that has more castor than a stock axle, and it is 1 1/2" wider on each side. I like the ATS because it is adjustable, and it is nice to dial in how much damping you want. I've never had a Jeep that feels so solid over uneven bumps that tend to induce bump steer or death wobble. Part of that may be the ATS. But the biggest improvements I noticed with on road handling was having proper air pressure in the tires, and changing from wheels with 4 1/2" backspacing to wheels with 5 1/4" backspacing.
 
#12 ·
The Fox ATS and hydro assist do different things. The ATS is a steering stabilizer, but it does not add any assist at all. So if you need to be able to steer easier with the front diff locked, get the hydro. I've got the Fox ATS, and I think it does help some with on road handling. But its hard for me to say because I have a PR 60 Unlimited front axle that has more castor than a stock axle, and it is 1 1/2" wider on each side. I like the ATS because it is adjustable, and it is nice to dial in how much damping you want. I've never had a Jeep that feels so solid over uneven bumps that tend to induce bump steer or death wobble. Part of that may be the ATS. But the biggest improvements I noticed with on road handling was having proper air pressure in the tires, and changing from wheels with 4 1/2" backspacing to wheels with 5 1/4" backspacing.
Are you saying that if I were to install 1.5 inch wheel spacers, my handling would get worse? I'm sorry to jack the thread I just really like the wide stanced look.
 
#17 ·
Hey could you explain more about the "negative zone" on scrub radius. I would like to learn more about that, if you don't mind.

When I first drove my Jeep with the Pro Rock 60 axles on it, the first thing I noticed was that the steering felt "different". It felt kind of heavy in the middle. Or perhaps a better way to describe it was that it felt like it had understeer when the steering wheel was anywhere between 1/3 left and 1/3 right from front dead center. But once you got past that point in either direction if felt like it had oversteer. I first thought that was from the increased castor, because it is only that way at low speed. At highway speed it drives fine, and is steady as a rock. I also thought it could be the ATS, but I dialed the damping all the way down, and it made no difference. A friend has also owned a JK with Pro Rock axles that have increased castor, and he said his felt the same way, so I figured just live with it.

Well, when I put on the wheels with more backspacing that tendancy to feel slow and heavy in the middle of the steering zone completely went away. It feels "normal" now, which is fantastic. I think the increased scrub radius was contributing to the problem.

So explain this scrub radius thing if you can.

Thanks.
 
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