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Old 08-15-2014, 12:32 PM   #1
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Ok everyone,i have searched through this forum for weeks and have read through alot of info but every gives out the same answers and i dont think it is the case in my situation though it sounds similar so let me break down all my info and my problem and hopefully i can resolve this asap! So,I recently bought a 2010 Sahara all stock with about 11k miles on it and it drove great nice and smooth at low and high speed.Last month my buddy did my 3.5" rough country lift and i bought a package of 5 wheels and tires straight from quadratech.com.They are 33" x 12.5 all terrain procomp tires and some 17x9 steely wheels so right there tells me that the wheels were professionally mounted and balanced before they sent them to me.After the lift was installed i had the alignment done the very next day and after a week or 2 of letting the new suspension settle in i noticed the steering wheel was pulling to the left as i hold the wheel straight and there was also alot of shaking in the wheel so i brought my jeep back to my buddy and they did the alignment again free of charge and told me the alignment was off for sure and now the truck steers nice and straight and the shaking is down to a minimum in the steering wheel.My big problem is around 50-60mph the front wheels shake like crazy and its actually more like death wobble preparing to start up but its but its not.Everything underneath is tight bolt wise everything looks good and again all bolts are tight and the front toe of my wheels look pretty good.At this point i have NO idea why the hell my front wheels are shaking now again they are brand new wheels not even 2 months old and i checked the weights and nothing fell off,So what could it be? Anyone? Lol im going to be checking out my ball joints later on today to see if maybe thats the issue,but before anyone comments its not the tire balance and my truck is aligned and the track bar is good cus that was adjusted and tightened twice.Please help!! Im going crazy everyone!

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Try rotating the tires.

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Old 08-15-2014, 01:42 PM   #3
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I wouldn't assume they were balanced correctly to begin with. Try and have them balanced somewhere.
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:48 PM   #4
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Steele wheels, not hub centric. Are you using aftermarket acorn lug nuts? Did you remove the retainer clips off the studs? If yes to the above don't assume they are balanced correctly just cause have weighs on them. Shit happens.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:07 PM   #5
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I would also switch tires front to back to eliminate that for sure.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:23 PM   #6
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Yes i plan on rotating the wheels later on to eliminate that scenario.Its true though i shouldnt just assume they were balanced correctly i think i will have them re-balanced to eliminate that as well.Im using the stock lugs that came on my Jeep.Also,what do you mean by the retainer clip off of the studs,i dont follow lol
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Looky here.... just down the page a little ways!!!!

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Ok everyone,i have searched through this forum for weeks and have read through alot of info but every gives out the same answers and i dont think it is the case in my situation though it sounds similar so let me break down all my info and my problem and hopefully i can resolve this asap! So,I recently bought a 2010 Sahara all stock with about 11k miles on it and it drove great nice and smooth at low and high speed.Last month my buddy did my 3.5" rough country lift and i bought a package of 5 wheels and tires straight from quadratech.com.They are 33" x 12.5 all terrain procomp tires and some 17x9 steely wheels so right there tells me that the wheels were professionally mounted and balanced before they sent them to me.After the lift was installed i had the alignment done the very next day and after a week or 2 of letting the new suspension settle in i noticed the steering wheel was pulling to the left as i hold the wheel straight and there was also alot of shaking in the wheel so i brought my jeep back to my buddy and they did the alignment again free of charge and told me the alignment was off for sure and now the truck steers nice and straight and the shaking is down to a minimum in the steering wheel.My big problem is around 50-60mph the front wheels shake like crazy and its actually more like death wobble preparing to start up but its but its not.Everything underneath is tight bolt wise everything looks good and again all bolts are tight and the front toe of my wheels look pretty good.At this point i have NO idea why the hell my front wheels are shaking now again they are brand new wheels not even 2 months old and i checked the weights and nothing fell off,So what could it be? Anyone? Lol im going to be checking out my ball joints later on today to see if maybe thats the issue,but before anyone comments its not the tire balance and my truck is aligned and the track bar is good cus that was adjusted and tightened twice.Please help!! Im going crazy everyone!
Sorry but that made me laugh.
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Sorry but that made me laugh.
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Did your lift address caster ?
Jeep Jk, Caster and lifting.
How about a front track bar ?
Installing the lift .. Did the installer loosen all suspension bolts and tighten with vehicles weight on the axles ?

Not saying any of this will be the direct cause to your problem, but won't help matters.

These are the problems people have installing a incomplete 3.5-4" + lift kit.
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X2...... Yup!!!
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My wheels/tires came from DT balanced. Some of the weights fell off in the packaging,
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:17 PM   #12
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I guess i just assumed they were properly mounted and balanced coming from a very popular company like quadratec givin how good they made it sound,but i guess thats shame on me right?
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I guess i just assumed they were properly mounted and balanced coming from a very popular company like quadratec givin how good they made it sound,but i guess thats shame on me right?
FYI if the balancing is an issue quadratec should reimburse you for some of balancing cost. If they are a stand up company.

Same thing happened to me when I bought wheels for my 12' mustang gt. Had to get road force balanced and American muscle put a credit into my bank account for the cost.
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Looky here.... just down the page a little ways!!!!

Balancing a tire and wheel, with Road Force and tire truing
My Son just had his road forced balanced, and it works!
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Old 08-15-2014, 10:27 PM   #15
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I had same issues until I removed clips on rotors. There on the lugs holding rotors but not required. They must be removed if using aftermarket wheels.
If I can find a picture I'll post it.
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i had same issues until i removed clips on rotors. There on the lugs holding rotors but not required. They must be removed if using aftermarket wheels.
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That's them, thanks for posting
If putting aftermarket rims n these must be removed.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:19 PM   #18
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You also need to ditch the stock lugs and get some aftermarket conical seat.
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Old 08-16-2014, 08:09 AM   #19
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sounds like the front track bar is loose.
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The OP really needs to come back and look at the link I posted about Road Force Balancing and tire truing before chasing his tail on this matter.
I have seen pickup tires that were over an inch out of round, and when this happens, the only thing one can do is to true up the tire. Now when one goes up to 35's and 37's; they could be even further out than that.

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