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Old 11-18-2013, 08:52 PM   #1
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Gentlemen. Alignment issue?

So I must admit to recently climbing a mountain and doing a donut or two on top...

If it matters I was in 4L

I noticed that my steering wheel is now slightly turned left while going straight.

It seems like I'm not drifting either left or right just my steering alignment is off?

This is a brand new 2013 JKU with 5k and no mods other than aFe stuff.

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Old 11-18-2013, 09:46 PM   #2
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If you unbolt your drag link you can recenter your steering wheel and bolt it back down

Here is a good link:
http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?3...-End-Alignment

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Old 11-18-2013, 09:48 PM   #3
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I have no idea what you definition of "doing a donut" or two is, who tight turns are usually not recommend in 4L, especially at a high rate of speed.

If you were trying to goof off and spin out, everything about a Wrangler in 4L is designed to prevent that from happening. I'm not sure if that lead to any damage, but it certainly didn't help anything.

If you want to do something like that you should be in 2WD.

That being said, here is a write up that shows how to re-center your steering wheel: Basic Do-it-Yourself Jeep JK Wrangler Front End Alignment
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I have no idea what you definition of "doing a donut" or two is, who tight turns are usually not recommend in 4L, especially at a high rate of speed.

If you were trying to goof off and spin out, everything about a Wrangler in 4L is designed to prevent that from happening. I'm not sure if that lead to any damage, but it certainly didn't help anything.

If you want to do something like that you should be in 2WD.

That being said, here is a write up that shows how to re-center your steering wheel: Basic Do-it-Yourself Jeep JK Wrangler Front End Alignment
I think this gets to the point quite concisely and nicely!

Donuts by their nature cause a high difference (slip) in speed laterally between tires and between the front and the rear. 4L is designed to maximize traction which means minimizing slip. Donuts and other pastries are bad for both the steering system and the driveline.

If there was no damage other than the drag link slipping, consider yourself lucky. I suggest you give whole front end a good inspection; just in case.
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Possible you bent the tie rod ?
I know adjusting your drag link was mentioned, That's fine but you need to know what caused it.

Something's bent or loose.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:57 PM   #6
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I have no idea what you definition of "doing a donut" or two is, who tight turns are usually not recommend in 4L, especially at a high rate of speed.

If you were trying to goof off and spin out, everything about a Wrangler in 4L is designed to prevent that from happening. I'm not sure if that lead to any damage, but it certainly didn't help anything.

If you want to do something like that you should be in 2WD.

That being said, here is a write up that shows how to re-center your steering wheel: Basic Do-it-Yourself Jeep JK Wrangler Front End Alignment
Thank you sirs for your prompt response!

I appreciate it.

I will check everything as I am driving to Tahoe tomorrow and do not want to have any problems. I have been a small sports car guy until this my first Jeep. I am in love and don't want to hurt her... No more donuts in 4L... not good apparently.
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Well it took 10 min and its all better.
Steering is realigned correctly and I checked everything out, nothing seems bent or loose to the untrained eye. I pretty much touched it all and everything felt and looked fine.

Not sure how this happened unless it is normal wear and tear for wheeling?
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Well it took 10 min and its all better.
Steering is realigned correctly and I checked everything out, nothing seems bent or loose to the untrained eye. I pretty much touched it all and everything felt and looked fine.

Not sure how this happened unless it is normal wear and tear for wheeling?
It's not normal and doing donuts is not wheeling.
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Well it took 10 min and its all better. Steering is realigned correctly and I checked everything out, nothing seems bent or loose to the untrained eye. I pretty much touched it all and everything felt and looked fine. Not sure how this happened unless it is normal wear and tear for wheeling?
You adjusted the drag link? Any esp light ?
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Well it took 10 min and its all better.
Steering is realigned correctly and I checked everything out, nothing seems bent or loose to the untrained eye. I pretty much touched it all and everything felt and looked fine.

Not sure how this happened unless it is normal wear and tear for wheeling?
That is not normal!
I suspect that something is bent, and has caused your issue.
Minimally, you should recheck your toe-in!
Re-aligning your steering wheel, is probably just a band-aid, masking the real problem..........
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meh... he probably bumped a rock pretty good and it tweaked the steering. as has been said - donuts in 4Lo isn't smart, and while at full lock - you probably bounced off something and your steering gave a little. it happens.

in the future - do donuts in a car. wheel your jeep.

and frequent trips in the rocks will result in constant drag link adjustments... seems like every time i go out - i have to readjust the drag link.
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Thanks for all the input. I guess there is an exaggerated perspective about donuts. Take a deep breath boys. I was wheeling with a few other Wrangler drivers and mainly learning the ropes to this new world of driving I've become part of. I have always been a track day driver and this is new to me. Donuts will be avoided in the future. I have probably driven 100-140ish miles off road so far. I would assume that suspension adjustments were normal at this volume.

For those still interested, I did only adjust the drag link, no there was no traction control lights or funny business.

Additionally I am in Lake Tahoe this weekend. Does anyone have some suggestions for trails up here. There is about 7" of snow in the last 3 days and there is no more on the forecast?

I hope you all are having a great weekend.
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Thanks for all the input. I guess there is an exaggerated perspective about donuts. Take a deep breath boys. I was wheeling with a few other Wrangler drivers and mainly learning the ropes to this new world of driving I've become part of. I have always been a track day driver and this is new to me. Donuts will be avoided in the future. I have probably driven 100-140ish miles off road so far. I would assume that suspension adjustments were normal at this volume.

For those still interested, I did only adjust the drag link, no there was no traction control lights or funny business.

Additionally I am in Lake Tahoe this weekend. Does anyone have some suggestions for trails up here. There is about 7" of snow in the last 3 days and there is no more on the forecast?

I hope you all are having a great weekend.
Donuts are a right of passage, but preferably in an older model without All the traction control stuff and definitely not in 4L. But nothing ventured nothing learned/gained!

I'd like to expand on the donuts in a car thing by adding IN A RENTAL CAR!

Remember- its a rental, DON'T be gentle

Consider stopping at a reputable shop and gave a service writer or mechanic watch the front end/suspension as you turn the wheel etc. It could be worth the piece of mind knowing what's going on. All that torque in 4L whine wheel cranked could have damaged something
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Donuts are a right of passage, but preferably in an older model without All the traction control stuff and definitely not in 4L. But nothing ventured nothing learned/gained!

I'd like to expand on the donuts in a car thing by adding IN A RENTAL CAR!

Remember- its a rental, DON'T be gentle

Consider stopping at a reputable shop and gave a service writer or mechanic watch the front end/suspension as you turn the wheel etc. It could be worth the piece of mind knowing what's going on. All that torque in 4L whine wheel cranked could have damaged something
Thank you sir!

Done and Done, iiitttt issss wellll with my Suspension!!!
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Thank you sir! Done and Done, iiitttt issss wellll with my Suspension!!!
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