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Old 02-14-2017, 08:29 AM   #1
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Good tips for Vandal/Plasma/Bulgin switchpod wiring.


Hey guys there isn't a huge wealth of info on wiring these as a switchpod. I've seen pics here and there of it done, but nothing behind the scenes. Instead of going with a Spod (may regret, lol), I have a waterproof Bussman fuse relay setup coming and 5 16mm Vandal switches from Oznium.com.
I plan on mounting them in the drivers switch panel. They are bare so I will have to figure out the best way to connect them. Not sure if I should use 18 gauge or 16, because will be tight and these are small.

https://www.oznium.com/anti-vandal-led-switch

I have found 2.8mm connectors and I plan to do 1 ground and power wire, and make harness pig tails to chain the switches.


Any tips or help would be great. I don't aim to fail and hope this will help anyone else who want to wire up their switches this way. I'm also an Amateur when it comes to wiring. YouTube is amazing.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:32 PM   #2
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Good tips for Vandal/Plasma/Bulgin switchpod wiring.

Here we go! Make sure to cover the aesthetic side of your a pillar cover with a few layers of blue painter tape. Trust me one plastic shard from drilling will scratch it up! I used silver marker, and went in between the grooves, using them as a guide for measurements. Mark your holes and drill your pilot holes. Take your time and let the bit cool in between holes. Exacto off the grooves in two spots where the switch will seat. Here are my supplies, (5/8 bit) along with a vice to hold a piece of wood to drill into.

Remove the tape from the 5/8 holes and clean them up. No sanding or filing needed. They will be a perfect fit for the 16mm. They slide right in. Line the connections up at a good spot and tighten.

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Old 02-16-2017, 04:21 PM   #3
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Anti-vandal switch website.

https://www.oznium.com/anti-vandal-led-switch
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:07 AM   #4
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These switches are meant to trip a relay, not power anything that has a high current draw. They only have a 3A current rating, if you put anything that draws more than that you risk a meltdown. You will be fine using 18ga wire for them. You can run one +12v and one ground to where the switches are and chain them together, but you will be running each brown wire (referencing their wiring diagram) to each relay that powers the accessory you want to control. You want to keep the power and ground wires the same gauge. I would recommend putting a fuse in the power line that runs to the switches and keep the fuse as close to where you tap into power as you can. Since you are running 5 switches you can go as high as a 15A fuse, 10A would probably be sufficient. Use the wiring and fuses that comes with the Bussman relays, they built it and should know the best as to what it needs. When connecting the relays to the accessories, look at the power draw and connect it to the appropriate fuse. Don't hook a CB to a 30A fuse and don't connect a 50" light bar to a 5A fuse. Common sense but sometimes things get overlooked. Lastly when running wires through a firewall, use existing grommets or make sure you grommet any holes you drill to protect the wires from getting skinned and causing a short. Wire loom is also your friend, it protects the wiring and makes the job look pretty.

Good luck, take your time, ask questions.
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Good tips for Vandal/Plasma/Bulgin switchpod wiring.

The power wire to the switches will be on one of the 5 constant connections on the Bussman/relay. So it will be fused and relayed to prevent meltdown.

Yea the diagram is as just an example of the daisy chaining. That 3rd daisy chain is for another switch function in that picture.

Thanks for your help!
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:22 AM   #6
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Here's a quote from Brian who made the Bussman box and is helping me with some setup.

"Those are a very low current switch at 3a so they more of less are only useful with a relay. Each relay is going to draw less than .5a. When using a relay all the high current goes through the relay contacts instead of the switch. The relays in the bussman are rated at 35a but are limited by the bussman fuse which is a maximum of 30a"
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:33 AM   #7
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Good tips for Vandal/Plasma/Bulgin switchpod wiring.

Also I will be going through the foam filled ole on the drivers side. Only 6 wires need to go through. Then I will reseal around it with firewall seal.

Snowdogs brings up a great point too. Make sure you have a plan as these are 3amp switches. Putting the power wire on a fused relay will solve the issues with amps.

Everything will be nice and wireloomed or heatshrunk
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Looks like you are under control, don't forget to post pictures when you get it done. I'm going to use those same switches but am not sure where I'll put them. Winter was nice because it is easy to say "It's too cold to work on the Jeep" but now it is warming up and I'll have to get started on the stuff.
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Good tips for Vandal/Plasma/Bulgin switchpod wiring.

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Looks like you are under control, don't forget to post pictures when you get it done. I'm going to use those same switches but am not sure where I'll put them. Winter was nice because it is easy to say "It's too cold to work on the Jeep" but now it is warming up and I'll have to get started on the stuff.


Thanks and glad you chimed in. I haven't wired auto since my teens lol. I'm 39, so I appreciate the help! I have been reading and watching tons of videos. I forgot how much I love this stuff and so nostalgic.

I will definitely post pics! Supposed to be 60 tomorrow. Love it
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Thanks and glad you chimed in. I haven't wired auto since my teens lol. I'm 39, so I appreciate the help! I have been reading and watching tons of videos. I forgot how much I love this stuff and so nostalgic.

I will definitely post pics! Supposed to be 60 tomorrow. Love it
54 here and I haven't wired a car since I was in my late 30's. Still work with circuit boards though in a controlled environment and not having to twist under a dash.
You sound close to us, SW PA here and to be close to 60 tomorrow also. Going to wash the car and Jeep, rotate the tires and hopefully get to Pgh for a tattoo show.
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Good tips for Vandal/Plasma/Bulgin switchpod wiring.

Little heads up to anyone following. These switches need 2mm connectors, not 2.8mm!! They can be found on eBay from China. I should have measured when I got the switches Wednesday to be sure.
For now I am going to find a rocker that fits the current 5/8 (16mm) hole on amazon, until I figure out what I'm doing. I tried to solder, but I have a tremor on my right hand that is preventing me from soldering this small connection. It was bad.. lol. I will either return these or order the 2.8 connectors and make a piggy harness. Or I can return and order pre wired.
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Back in business! An old classmate's husband responded to my FB post for help. Facebook is worth something.. I just got a message they are all wired up
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Good tips for Vandal/Plasma/Bulgin switchpod wiring.

Added male connectors to the ends the to aid in Maintenance and changeout.

Made pigtail links for the power and ground.


I premeasured and aligned everything to "weave" together for best clearance


And done. I had to heatshrink the connectors due to my crimpers piercing the connectors insulation. I should have used noninsulated but my crimpers are supposed to do Both. Oh well.



The installation fits perfect on the Jeep even with the Bluetooth speaker harness there. Just have to do the switch wires and mount her in place.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:08 PM   #14
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Make sure your switch wires hang down at least 4"


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