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Hard time deciding: zeon 12 or 10-S or SB X20

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#1 ·
I want to stay close or lower than 1100 for a winch.

I was looking at the zeon 12 or 10-s. My thought is to get the 12 and use it for a year, then putting a synthetic rope in it. Pros of the 12 is the extra pull and price. Cons is the added 30lbs more that the 10s up front, the need to upgrade, and possible cable snap.

4wd parts was pushing the new smittybuilt x20 gen2 12k synthetic which is $649. It's also very similar looking to the zeon.

Any thoughts or things you believe I should think about? When I think winch, I think Warn but maybe I'm putting too much faith into the name.

I have 3 things left until I get into the crap (prorock 44 and lockers)....winch, powertank, and PSC rear bumper (or armor)
 
#2 ·
My opinion; get the Zeon 10s and move on. start with the synthetic cable now. A year from now you might not have the $200 for synthetic cable. With a snatch block you can double your pulling power if you need to. That way you start light right off the bat.

I have the VR10000s. And that thing has pulled me out some real bad situations. The 10s will be good power.
 
#4 ·
I dunno but I was looking at your sig line. You seem to be building a nice jeep with quality parts. I would ask you why you would chose to be putting on Pro Rocks and then have a smittybilt instead of a warn. I owned a smitty for a short time and sold it. It just seemed cheaply made. I replaced it with a warn. I will be getting a warn for my 13 when the time comes. The Smitty might be just fine, but for a couple of hundred bucks more on a 50K jeep build it just doesn't make sense to me. A 10S makes more sense to me.
 
#6 ·
I have a Warn 12K, luv it..

IMHO, you can never have 'too much' winch. (get stuck in a tough mud hole & you'll quickly discover the value of quality & 'bigger')
I have no problems with steel cable, as a matter of fact, I prefer it for it's durability..
I have been in/around the towing business for 35yrs & have never seen a properly used/maintained steel cable break (to all you cable haters, I'm not saying they can't break, I'm just saying I've never seen it happen personally).

Aside from some specialty Firefighting/EMS rigs, every professional tow/recovery rig I've ever seen has steel cable.
Because synth rope originated in the boating industry, I used to think it was just for hobbyists/weekenders who couldn't be bothered checking their gear (ie-cable) all the time (not that boaters don't check their gear, it's just cross-over stuff usually happens for some 'convenience' aspect).
Synth rope has come a long way since those days tho.. but it's still too over-priced for an old time steel cable guy like me..
 
#7 ·
I have a Warn 12K, luv it..

IMHO, you can never have 'too much' winch. (get stuck in a tough mud hole & you'll quickly discover the value of quality & 'bigger')
I have no problems with steel cable, as a matter of fact, I prefer it for it's durability..
I have been in/around the towing business for 35yrs & have never seen a properly used/maintained steel cable break (to all you cable haters, I'm not saying they can't break, I'm just saying I've never seen it happen personally).

Aside from some specialty Firefighting/EMS rigs, every professional tow/recovery rig I've ever seen has steel cable.
Because synth rope originated in the boating industry, I used to think it was just for hobbyists/weekenders who couldn't be bothered checking their gear (ie-cable) all the time (not that boaters don't check their gear, it's just cross-over stuff usually happens for some 'convenience' aspect).
Synth rope has come a long way since those days tho.. but it's still too over-priced for an old time steel cable guy like me..
I agree with this. I have the Warn 12K with steel cable sitting on the front bumper. I keep the cover on it full time. Only used it once, but comforting to have.
 
#10 ·
I'll run rope through it after a year or 2
I doubt it..
After running cable, & seeing all those folks with shredded/knotted synth rope that needs much washing/care after every use/dunking, you won't change-you'll see... ;)

Never seen any hardcore 4wheelers switch from cable to rope.. heard about it on websites, but never seen it myself...
 
#16 ·
Thanks. I purchased the 12 last night since I got it for a very good price. Im honestly not sure if theres such a thing as too much winch. Snatch blocks ect. can be used but the difference between 10-12k lb could save me or others in a situation....now if I was going with a 17-20k lb winch then I would agree.
 
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