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Old 01-26-2014, 11:07 AM   #1
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Having a problem with a Ripp Supercharger

I have a 2013 Wrangler, with 3,000 miles on it, and recently installed the Ripp Supercharger. The transmission will not shift gears on its own. When I want it to shift gears I have to let off the gas. Otherwise, it stays in gear. After about 20 min of driving like this the "hot oil" warning light comes on. No matter how gentle I am on the accelerator the hot oil light still comes on.

This has been a problem since installation. It didn't just pop up. I got about 20 miles, after having it installed, and had to have it towed to a Jeep dealer. They checked the tranny and said it was fine. I'm wondering if anyone else has had this issue or any transmission related issues? If so, what was the fix? Thanks!

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did u contact ripp???
Yes. They seem stumped and say they haven't seen this before.

Just want to be clear. They are looking for a solution and I have not given up on them. I'm just curious to know if anyone has had a similar experience. Maybe I am the only one but that seems unlikely.
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That's the trouble with being on the cutting edge of things; not a whole lot of user experience out there. RIPP is basically having to wait for things to go wrong and fix them as they comes up, especially for a product that will see low volume sales such as a $6000.00 supercharger kit. If you've had the transmission checked out, it may very well be an electrical/drive computer issue.

Overheating your oil may likely be a result of the constant high revs you'd experience from missed shifts/manual shifting, aggravated by the fact that the engine is now running a bit hotter than manufacture specs with your new forced induction system.

Were you required to change the oil when you installed the turbo? Has the oil temp sensor been re-calibrated to take into account the higher operating temp? Just throwing some ideas out there.
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How does the RIPP perform otherwise? Any gains, mileage that are noticeable. Just curious if it does something over a CAI since those don't do much by themselves.

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That's the trouble with being on the cutting edge of things; not a whole lot of user experience out there. RIPP is basically having to wait for things to go wrong and fix them as they comes up, especially for a product that will see low volume sales such as a $6000.00 supercharger kit. If you've had the transmission checked out, it may very well be an electrical/drive computer issue.

Overheating your oil may likely be a result of the constant high revs you'd experience from missed shifts/manual shifting, aggravated by the fact that the engine is now running a bit hotter than manufacture specs with your new forced induction system.

Were you required to change the oil when you installed the turbo? Has the oil temp sensor been re-calibrated to take into account the higher operating temp? Just throwing some ideas out there.

I'm leaning towards the tune not being sorted out yet. Besides the issue with the tranny it runs rich in some areas and lean in others. Ripp claims this to be normal and said that the ECU should adjust. I hope so.

I just get nervous when told that I'm "the only one" out of thousands installed. I've been modifying cars for 20 years and have heard that too many times.

I'm willing to be patient but this has been dragging on for a bit and the response from Ripp, so far, hasn't eased my concerns.
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How does the RIPP perform otherwise? Any gains, mileage that are noticeable. Just curious if it does something over a CAI since those don't do much by themselves.

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Honestly, I haven't been able to get on it yet. The tranny has been an issue from the very beginning.
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I wouldn't get too worked up about being the only one. If my experience with my Superchips tuner is any indication; Chrysler spits out new tunes all the time, and it's a scramble on the aftermarket side to keep up with updates and de-conflict programming. In my case; my PCM was bricked for over a week and I was left in a no-start condition until everything could be ironed out on the manufacturer's side. Superchips was awesome about keeping me informed and the final product was well worth it, but it was a little hair raising considering my Jeep had less than 500 miles on it.

If I remember correctly, the very first supercharger kits for the 3.6L Pentastar only came out a couple of months ago. I can't imagine they've sold more than a couple hundred since then. So many variables between vehicles of the same make/model these days, I expect RIPP will ultimately fix the problem, but it will take time.
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How does the RIPP perform otherwise? Any gains, mileage that are noticeable. Just curious if it does something over a CAI since those don't do much by themselves.

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I don't think a CAI would even come close to comparing to a supercharger.
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I have a 2013 Wrangler, with 3,000 miles on it, and recently installed the Ripp Supercharger. The transmission will not shift gears on its own. When I want it to shift gears I have to let off the gas. Otherwise, it stays in gear. After about 20 min of driving like this the "hot oil" warning light comes on. No matter how gentle I am on the accelerator the hot oil light still comes on.

This has been a problem since installation. It didn't just pop up. I got about 20 miles, after having it installed, and had to have it towed to a Jeep dealer. They checked the tranny and said it was fine. I'm wondering if anyone else has had this issue or any transmission related issues? If so, what was the fix? Thanks!
Your problem is Gear/tire calibration. Your transmission is currently locked in 3rd.

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Your problem is Gear/tire calibration. Your transmission is currently locked in 3rd.

Call our tech line in the morning at 718-815-1313 ext.11 and we can give you a walk through.

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I appreciate it. Will give you a call tomorrow.
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I used to buy vehicles and start changing everything right away; tires, suspension, electronics, looks...you name it, I would do it. My experience was that after doing all of that, things never turned out right. Always some new problems would appear or I simply spent $ to make my ride worse. I learned my lesson after spending much to make things worse. Now I avoid doing things and simply enjoy what I get, the way I get it. Amazing the amount of money (and head aches) I have saved by not doing these stuff anymore! Learned my lesson the hard way.
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I used to buy vehicles and start changing everything right away; tires, suspension, electronics, looks...you name it, I would do it. My experience was that after doing all of that, things never turned out right. Always some new problems would appear or I simply spent $ to make my ride worse. I learned my lesson after spending much to make things worse. Now I avoid doing things and simply enjoy what I get, the way I get it. Amazing the amount of money (and head aches) I have saved by not doing these stuff anymore! Learned my lesson the hard way.
Laughed when I read this because I know exactly what you mean. I've had the mod bug for as long as I can remember. I've had some really good experiences and two terrible experiences. I did a Cummins swap on an H1 Hummer that was just a nightmare. Had a Porsche GT2 and spent more modding it than I paid for the car. It never ran right again! You'd think I'd learn but, nope!

Lots of folks have had a good experience with Ripp so I'm optimistic.
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Your problem is Gear/tire calibration. Your transmission is currently locked in 3rd.

Call our tech line in the morning at 718-815-1313 ext.11 and we can give you a walk through.

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It's not locked in third.
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Your problem is Gear/tire calibration. Your transmission is currently locked in 3rd.

Call our tech line in the morning at 718-815-1313 ext.11 and we can give you a walk through.

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Just spoke with the shop who did the installation out here in Colorado. The tire gear/calibration has been tried several times. The problem has not been resolved. I'm officially really frustrated.
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The tune should only address fuel/air issues, not shiftpoints. Did you have this problem before the RIPP system was installed? Is your speedometer working correctly? How about your tach? I don't understand how a supercharger can mess with your shifting, I don't think the supercharger is the problem. Sound like you did something when you installed it (like unclipped a harness, snagged a wire, broke a sensor, etc.) It just appears the supercharger is the cause since the problem appeared after it was installed, but it's something else that was done during the install that's causing it. Did the dealer run a diagnostic on the computer to make sure everything is fine? Did they update the firmware or something?
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It's not locked in third.
Can you describe the symptoms in greater detail? You start the jeep, put it in D...is it in 1st? Will it just redline first and not upshift? Can you manually shift up/down?
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The tune should only address fuel/air issues, not shiftpoints. Did you have this problem before the RIPP system was installed? Is your speedometer working correctly? How about your tach? I don't understand how a supercharger can mess with your shifting, I don't think the supercharger is the problem. Sound like you did something when you installed it (like unclipped a harness, snagged a wire, broke a sensor, etc.) It just appears the supercharger is the cause since the problem appeared after it was installed, but it's something else that was done during the install that's causing it. Did the dealer run a diagnostic on the computer to make sure everything is fine? Did they update the firmware or something?
Are you saying that an engine tune file can't mess with shift points?
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Can you describe the symptoms in greater detail? You start the jeep, put it in D...is it in 1st? Will it just redline first and not upshift? Can you manually shift up/down?
It starts in first gear as it should. It will rev to redline if I let it. Doesn't matter if I floor it or go easy on the go pedal. I have to let off the gas or it will not shift gears on its own. This causes the tranny oil to overheat after a while. I can put it in manual.

The Jeep had 3,000 miles on it when the kit was installed. It didn't have any issues. Speedo and tach work fine.
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On a different note.....what was the dealers thoughts on the supercharger and the chip.....sounds like it may cost you a lot of money if the dealer fixes it. It would be ez for the dealer to blame any warranty work or lack there of, on the mods. Hope you get it figured out and if all else fails I will give you $2500 for the RIPP.
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Are you saying that an engine tune file can't mess with shift points?
Yes this is what I am saying. Tuning for forced induction is fuel management (flow, duty cycle, etc etc) and has nothing to do with the transmission or shiftpoints.
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It starts in first gear as it should. It will rev to redline if I let it. Doesn't matter if I floor it or go easy on the go pedal. I have to let off the gas or it will not shift gears on its own. This causes the tranny oil to overheat after a while. I can put it in manual.

The Jeep had 3,000 miles on it when the kit was installed. It didn't have any issues. Speedo and tach work fine.
So you are saying that if left in D the jeep stays in 1st but if you bump the gear lever you can manually upshift all the way to 5th?
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Yes this is what I am saying. Tuning for forced induction is fuel management (flow, duty cycle, etc etc) and has nothing to do with the transmission or shiftpoints.
That's incorrect.
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So you are saying that if left in D the jeep stays in 1st but if you bump the gear lever you can manually upshift all the way to 5th?
Yes.
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Yes this is what I am saying. Tuning for forced induction is fuel management (flow, duty cycle, etc etc) and has nothing to do with the transmission or shiftpoints.
Totally wrong. The ripp tune reteaches the trans when to shift.

I watched this process up close, and this quote may have been accurate in the 80s and 90s but today, its incorrect. The RIPP tune teaches the engines computer to deal with the extra air, AND teaches the transmission's cpu when to shift.
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Totally wrong. The ripp tune reteaches the trans when to shift.

I watched this process up close, and this quote may have been accurate in the 80s and 90s but today, its incorrect. The RIPP tune teaches the engines computer to deal with the extra air, AND teaches the transmission's cpu when to shift.
Something isn't matching up. I'd love to hear ripp comment on this. To this day, no one (including Diablo and the rest of the tuner companies) have been able to adjust the shift points of the 2012+ wrangler. I want to hear them say that they have been able to modify the shift points on a 3.6L, because as of right now, I know that no one has been able to do it. I've been tuning/getting tuned for over a decade, and never once have I EVER seen any tune that reprograms shift points (on a bolt on kit.) Forced induction tunes are fuel and engine only. There is absolutely no reason to adjust shift points when adding forced induction (under normal circumstances.) Also, are you telling me that ripp has different kits for manual/auto (programming wise)?
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Something isn't matching up. I'd love to hear ripp comment on this. To this day, no one (including Diablo and the rest of the tuner companies) have been able to adjust the shift points of the 2012+ wrangler. I want to hear them say that they have been able to modify the shift points on a 3.6L, because as of right now, I know that no one has been able to do it. I've been tuning/getting tuned for over a decade, and never once have I EVER seen any tune that reprograms shift points (on a bolt on kit.) Forced induction tunes are fuel and engine only. There is absolutely no reason to adjust shift points when adding forced induction (under normal circumstances.) Also, are you telling me that ripp has different kits for manual/auto (programming wise)?
they are different tunes. Yes.
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they are different tunes. Yes.
Again, I'd love to hear Ripp comment on this because according to Diablo, the trinity is not capable of adjusting shift points (according to them, not my words) so I'd love to know how/what they adjusted. Hopefully they will chime in again. (I PMed them to come back here.)
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I *believe* that my Diablo was able to adjust my shift points on my 2013 GC SRT8. Is it somehow unable to do this on our 3.6L JK's?
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I *believe* that my Diablo was able to adjust my shift points on my 2013 GC SRT8. Is it somehow unable to do this on our 3.6L JK's?
I can't speak for the GC, but I've been trying to find a unit that can change shiftpoints and none of them can do it on the Pentastar JK (not sure about 2011 and down.) If there was a unit that did it, I would own it as I want to adjust mine to shift a bit later.

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