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Old 08-13-2014, 07:24 PM   #1
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Hey Jeep peeps

Don't have a Jeep Wrangler yet. In the process of picking a 2 door or 4 door. Just not sure yet, some people with Jeeps don't recognize the 4 doors and some do. I am of course looking to lift it, I am in Mass and am not sure of how pesky they are about lift laws. I went to a dealership in Millbury Mass that has a few all lifted on the lot, but never heard of Rugged Ridge suspension. Any insight would be great, because I do tons of research before buying, and would never buy one already lifted from a dealer. Because you will pay a lot for the aftermarket stuff they put on. Thanks for any help you can offer.


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Old 08-13-2014, 07:35 PM   #2
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Honestly I haven't bears of ruged ridge suspension. Remember you don't want to go cheap on lift kits.

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Old 08-13-2014, 07:44 PM   #3
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I googled it and looked on Ebay. But it does seem very cheap. I will be coming from a lifted 2010 Tacoma. So to me money in lift / tires I don't mind spending thousands to get good quality. So recommendations on a full complete everything needed in one lift.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:55 PM   #4
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I wouldn't sweat the 4 door, most old school Jeepers look at the 2dr and 4dr JK's all the same.. Suspension is entire dependent on how high you want to go..
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:18 PM   #5
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Screw what others may or may not think of YOUR jeep, get what YOU want.
The dealer by me pushes the rugged ridge also but I didn't look into their stuff, I told him I just wasn't interested in their aftermarket stuff and we went onto what I wanted.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:34 PM   #6
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I believe that Rugged Ridge was also called ORV. I have a friend that has one on his but I really dont think he does much in terms of wheeling. Really you get what you pay for and with a liift it is always better to invest in a quality kit. Teraflex, Rock Krawler, AEV, Currie, Metal Cloak, ect. Like its stated above, it is your Jeep make it yours. Dealerships and many places build cookie cutter Jeeps and you just end up looking like every other jeep out there.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:36 PM   #7
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That first sentence sums it up , well put Moab
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:51 PM   #8
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Thanks guys and gals. What is the standard and easiest height to deal with? As far as the Tacoma 3 inches was pretty much the norm, but I never wanted to do the 6 inch. Because you would have to do the drop bracket garbage, and always deal with the UCA isssues. So geometry wise what is best for our beasts.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:03 PM   #9
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3" lift is perfect. I have a 4 but you have to mess with more things.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:29 PM   #10
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What size tire will fit with that without issues? Tacoma to fit true 33's on it you had to cut the cab mount and such. Pain in the butt. And best choice of 3 inch you would recommend?
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What size tire will fit with that without issues? And best choice of 3 inch you would recommend?
Some lifts such as the Rubicon Express 3.5" lift claim to clear 37's, others don't so 35's are normally the standard choice with a 3-3.5" lift. At 37" on a manual is when a regear is necessary, at 35" is when it starts to become necessary for automatics. 3.5" lift is also the beginning of having to extent your drive shaft, 3" you should be fine. Some drive and wheel on the stock DS forever while others snap them right away. Brand and type of lift all depends on what you plan on doing with your jeep. Just a tip I wouldn't recommend buying the shocks that come with the lift, get some rancho 9000XL shocks
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35's will fit on a 2" with fender trimming. 3" you should be able to clear 37 with trimming.

I run the rancho 2" sport with trimmed fenders and 35's with no issues and yes I wheel it.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:34 AM   #13
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Rugged Ridge makes a lot of products that are OK but suspensions systems is not their strength. There are plenty of good choices and some of the best: Teraflex, RockKrawler, AEV and MetalCloak. Start there and work your way down one notch if you must but stay away from the rock bottom kits. They will cost more in the long run.

Before you decide on how lift, read a few of the threads on the benefits of 2.5" lifts which will fit 35" tires and then decide if you really want to go higher. This is one of the best starting points for learning:

Newby's guide to lifting your JK
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:32 AM   #14
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Hey Raswank....before you buy, check out Acton Chrysler Jeep in Acton Ma. They gave me an absolutely great deal when I bought my '13 JK. No hassle, no back and forth on pricing......Just a great price up front. I drove 3 hours to get to the dealership because of their pricing. Check it out.
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:53 AM   #15
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Thanks everyone, And thanks Vt rider I will check them out. I figured for a good lift I would put aside 1,000.00 to 1,500.00 for just the lift if that is enough. Then another 1,500.00 to 2,000.00 for tires and wheels. How bad of a hit do you guys get on the gas mileage front?
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Thanks everyone, And thanks Vt rider I will check them out. I figured for a good lift I would put aside 1,000.00 to 1,500.00 for just the lift if that is enough. Then another 1,500.00 to 2,000.00 for tires and wheels. How bad of a hit do you guys get on the gas mileage front?
a good rule of thumb for smaller lifts is down 1 mpg per inch you lift up until about a 3" lift
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Wouldn't think lift would do anything in regards of gas mileage. But I would imagine a 33 inch would cause some change, and then 35 would cause more. Just a thought
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:42 AM   #18
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Who give a crap if some people do not recognize 4 door Jeeps. Get what you want and/or need and don't worry what others may think. I got a 4 door because I have 2 kids and I needed the space. My JKU has a 2" lift and 33" Trail Grappler tires and I bet it can just about any place that a 2 door Jeep can.

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Old 08-14-2014, 11:51 AM   #19
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I love my 14' 4 dr soft top. I had a 07' 2 dr and I must say other than the turning radius I love the 4dr much more. Best part is that you can fold back the soft top, takes less than a minute, and its a huge sun roof. I couldn't do that with my 2dr.

For me it came down to practicality. The 4dr is bigger, more storage space, more room for passengers, and if you have (or gonna have) kids in the next 5-10 years the 4dr is the way to go.
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:52 AM   #20
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As for Rugged Ridge, I agree with some of the past comments. They have good products for small mostly cosmetic things like grille inserts, headlight trim, taillight cover, etc. but for anything mechanical or electrical I would not use them. Good luck with your lift
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:06 PM   #21
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As for the two door vs four door question, go to a dealer and drive both of them. I've owned both two door and four door JKs. For me, I prefer the handing and peppyness of the two door JK. It feels a lot more sporty, and less like a truck. Just buy the one that you like the best.
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Old 08-14-2014, 02:09 PM   #22
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MOPWR2U How's the gas mileage with the 35's? Not even sure how big the tanks are, but what are you getting to a tank?
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Also do people prefer 6 speed manual or 5 speed auto? The Tacoma 6 speed had nothing but throw out bearing problems. And reading this site it seems the same with Jeep
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Most people average 16-18 with 35's pending terrain and gear ratio. I've seen 19.5 on the highway doing 68 mph average and that's with heavy bumpers and armor. 4:88 gears with a 6 speed manual. 4 doors have 22 gallon tanks. I would say 275-300 miles per tank average?
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So a 3" with 35's wouldn't require any re gearing? Or would it? I don't want to have to get into re gearing at all. I know I have a lot of questions but I go through everything before I buy.
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So a 3" with 35's wouldn't require any re gearing? Or would it? I don't want to have to get into re gearing at all. I know I have a lot of questions but I go through everything before I buy.

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Old 08-14-2014, 05:47 PM   #27
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Wow thanks what ratio do they come stock with? I just went on Jeep and built a 4 door Rubicon and couldn't find anything in the standard about the ratio. I like manuals but do a lot of people have issues with them?
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Anything below the yellow means a regear is highly recommended
That chart is for 3.8L engine, the 3.6L is slightly different
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That chart is for 3.8L engine, the 3.6L is slightly different
True I didn't even realize that thanks, the ratios are not too far off though.
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Wow thanks what ratio do they come stock with? I just went on Jeep and built a 4 door Rubicon and couldn't find anything in the standard about the ratio. I like manuals but do a lot of people have issues with them?
Rubicons come with 4.10's, I had a TOB problem that was due to the clutch disk wearing unevenly which could happen in any car/jeep/truck. This all happened at 61k miles so after smoking the clutch countless times, that was about when the whole clutch was going to go out. I wouldn't say that what happened is a problem associated with a jeep just because of how common that problem is throughout any vehicle

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