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Old 12-23-2013, 10:09 PM   #1
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Ow can you increase towing capacity on a Rubicon? I love the 2014, would love one. 6 speed manual and 3:73 be the way to go? Thanks, Will

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Buy the 4 door rather than the 2 door

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Buy the 4 door rather than the 2 door
Thanks. I do love the 4 door, thats the one I want,

How much extra over the GCWR can they handle?
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Thanks. I do love the 4 door, thats the one I want,

How much extra over the GCWR can they handle?

3500lbs for 4 door
2000lbs for 2 door
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So toeing 5,000 on an occasion would not be good?
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So toeing 5,000 on an occasion would not be good?

It's all up to you, some will say no, some will say it's ok.
I personally have towed more than what my Jeep is rated for, is was on backroads never over 45.......Like I said, some interweb police will come in and say don't, some interweb Supermen will say they've pulled a house at 80mph down the interstate
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Thank you! I have had my truck over capacity a fes tomes, drive cautious.
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A Wrangler will pull 5000 lbs. I wouldn't want to try to stop with 5000 lbs behind one.
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A Wrangler will pull 5000 lbs. I wouldn't want to try to stop with 5000 lbs behind one.
Trailer brakes are a must for sure!
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The engine and transmission can easily handle it, they do in other Chrysler applications. Having said that it is the chassis, suspension, and braking system used that give it the lower rating. Trailer brakes and using your head are a must if you decide to exceed the recommend tow weight.
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4 door, 4:10 ratio......
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The engine and transmission can easily handle it, they do in other Chrysler applications. Having said that it is the chassis, suspension, and braking system used that give it the lower rating. Trailer brakes and using your head are a must if you decide to exceed the recommend tow weight.
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4 door, 4:10 ratio......
these 2 guys answered it all!

i have pulled more than i should, but i'm in the flatlands...think cow peein on a flat rock when it rains...and i truly can drive 100 miles and never see another vehicle...

...wouldn' tow even the rated limit in the twisties with hills and other drivers....
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4 door, 4:10 ratio......
Agreed! an Unlimited with 4.10:1 gears will definitely pull 5000lbs. As others have said, make sure that trailer has good brakes. My 2014 can barely stop itself, let alone an additional 5k.
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If you want to tow more than 3500lbs, get a vehicle rated for the job. Towing more than the recommended amount puts you and everyone else on the road at risk. Anyone who is suggesting otherwise is a fool.

When you get in a wreck and injure or kill someone what wil your defense be? Someone on the internet said it was okay?
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If you really need to tow weight get a Ram 1500 +. If I needed a vehicle to tow, I have to say that a JK would be one of my last choices.
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I agree that getting a vehicle that is actually rated for the job is a good idea. Which is why I said this:

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Trailer brakes and using your head are a must if you decide to exceed the recommend tow weight.
If I was looking to tow 5,000 or more pounds I'd use a PU truck. As far as the engine and transmission being able to handle 5000 lbs, no problem, it's everything else you have to worry about.
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Ow can you increase towing capacity on a Rubicon? I love the 2014, would love one. 6 speed manual and 3:73 be the way to go? Thanks, Will
I have also heard that Canada does pull roadside inspections on private vehicles when towing, and if the limits are exceeded, they park you until a properly rated tow vehicle is used. I don't know this for fact, but worth checking out before getting in a pickle. It could be just rumor.
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it depends on what country you look at the specs in.
In Australia it is a 4400lb towing capacity
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The problem with the Jeep isn't the power, it is the wheel base.
The reason the 2 door is rated lower then the 4 door is simple physics.
When you nail the brakes, all that weight on the trailer keeps pushing forward and this is where the wheel base comes into play.
VERY basically, the longer the wheel base, the more the vehicle can tow.
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I tow a tractor on a flatbed that puts me at 3900 & change and I hate it. When I do tow that load, it's only local and I travel slowly and pull over to allow people behind me to pass.

When I need to bring the tractor to the shop for service over and above my capabilities, I have a friend who'll lend me his truck or I tell the shop to stop by and grab it when they're driving by the area. I just have it on the trailer waiting and it disappears one day and reappears the next.
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Buy a truck.

Seriously, I don't think they want us towing with these. Euro spec is rated for 3500 KG yet same set up in the states is only 3500 lbs. if you look at how these are equipped, it should be rated for more in the US when compared to a Cherokee that is rated to 5000 lbs.
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I have friend who posts here from time to time who will be getting a Rubicon which will occasionally pull his 5,000 lb boat & trailer up a ramp. He plans on using 4L which will help with the wet ramp. The low gearing of that transfer case will provide plenty of low end power. Once he's got it out of the water maybe 30-50 yards total pull distance, he plans on hooking it up to his 2WD pick up. In a situation like this I see no problems, in fact its a good idea because he wants the Rubi and has no intentions of replacing the pick up. Other than that I wouldn't exceed their tow ratings.
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Thanks! I will stick with my GMC Sierra, get a new one in a couple of years.

A jeep would be a nice second vehicle, but it will not replace a truck.
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The problem with the Jeep isn't the power, it is the wheel base. The reason the 2 door is rated lower then the 4 door is simple physics. When you nail the brakes, all that weight on the trailer keeps pushing forward and this is where the wheel base comes into play. VERY basically, the longer the wheel base, the more the vehicle can tow.
Very interesting, you are the first person to mention this. Seems to make sense though. Why would a 2 door with all the same equipment be less capable in the towing aspect then 4 door which is equally equipped? The force and power distributed over a larger surface area= a higher payload
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I have a tow related question. If 32s and 3.73 gears, on the 4door the rating is 3500 lbs, if I go to 35's, what gears do I need to keep the same rating? Would the minimum then be 4:10?
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Very interesting, you are the first person to mention this. Seems to make sense though. Why would a 2 door with all the same equipment be less capable in the towing aspect then 4 door which is equally equipped? The force and power distributed over a larger surface area= a higher payload
short wb=squirly and also vehicle weight. 4door weighs a bit more. If you want to tow buy a Toyota Tundru I see they can pull the space shuttle and that thing is heavy lol.
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short wb=squirly and also vehicle weight. 4door weighs a bit more. If you want to tow buy a Toyota Tundru I see they can pull the space shuttle and that thing is heavy lol.

Lmao, yeah i forgot about that commercial. Great marketing though!!!
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Very interesting, you are the first person to mention this. Seems to make sense though. Why would a 2 door with all the same equipment be less capable in the towing aspect then 4 door which is equally equipped? The force and power distributed over a larger surface area= a higher payload
Yes and no to a point on the wheelbase thing. A JKU that has basically the same WB but weighs more than a Cherokee but still has a lower tow rating.
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The JK or JKU has a much higher center of gravity too. I don't know much about the new Cherokee's, but I had a 1991 model for a while. They had the 4.0 engine and 3.55 gears, but came with 28"-29" tires and sat much lower to the ground. The torque was at much lower RPM and the small tires along with 3.55 gears actually works out to more power getting to the pavement than 4.10 gears and 32" tires on new Wranglers.

The wheelbase is just part of a complex set of factors. Lots of folks get away with towing more than they should, for a while anyway. My BIL owns a body shop. One of his customers used to tow a 3500-4000 lb boat a lot with his JKU. Always being careful. But one day someone pulled out in front of him and he had to attempt a quick stop. The front brakes held, the trailer picked the rear tires up off the pavement and spun the jeep around creating a jack knife.

Don't always assume a PU is better. Check the specs carefully. A 1/2 tons weight ratings can range from 4500 lbs to over 11,000 lbs. Many aren't much better than a Wrangler.
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I have a tow related question. If 32s and 3.73 gears, on the 4door the rating is 3500 lbs, if I go to 35's, what gears do I need to keep the same rating? Would the minimum then be 4:10?

The gears WILL NOT change the rating......gears will only make it feel not so sluggish with the bigger tires

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