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Old 01-09-2014, 03:20 PM   #1
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Installing Tuffy under driver seat

Hi all. Won a $120 tuff on eBay for under $50. Pretty jacked about it.

From the install instructions I saw online you just take off the two bolts on the seat bracket, lift it up, put Tuffy down, and put it back on, right?

So essentially if someone wants to steal it all they have to do it do that, right? Has anyone reinforced it at all? If so, what did you do? I truly doubt any thief will a) have a wrench on him or b) want to go through that to steal it, but if so, what did you do?

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LOL...

Yeah....try getting those bolts undone with just a wrench!

Congrats on the win....get yourself a strong ratchet and breaker bar to get it undone.

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Well I guess that makes me feel better. Ha. Are they able to be reached with an impact or do you need a breaker?

If they're that strong and hard to get off I guess I shouldn't need to reinforce if.
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I saw that auction on there. Was it from Acme Parts? Congrats on the good buy.
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Well I guess that makes me feel better. Ha. Are they able to be reached with an impact or do you need a breaker?

If they're that strong and hard to get off I guess I shouldn't need to reinforce if.
Off the top of my head, I don't think you can get there with in impact. Plus..if a theif has tools to the point where they are carrying in impact gun...(and you don't hear it)...your stuff is as good as gone anyway.

I had a 3 foot piece of iron gas pipe that I used as a breaker bar. I think I needed an extension as well (to get over the seat).
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I can take mine off with an impact wrench but I have a 2010 with the old interior/seats. Not sure about 2012+.
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You're welcome. I was going to bid on that but some other things kept me from getting on ebay this morning. Enjoy the Tuffy box. Eat your spinach and bring a breaker bar to that party. I had to remove the seat last year for another project and thought I was going to break the bolts or strip the threads before I was done.
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You'll want a breaker bar (long) and ratchet. Once you get them moving, swap over to the ratchet.

You'll need to completely remove the front two bolts and just loosen the two rear so you can tip the seat back a bit. Just installed my passenger side a week ago.

Just to put your mind at ease, these are fine thread bolts (since they anchor your seats to the Jeep) and are stout and tight. You'll also want a torque wrench so you get them back to spec after you re-install the bolts.

Like anything in any vehicle, if someone wants it, it can be taken. Frankly, they could drill out the tumbler as easily as unbolt and steal the box, but your typical break-in for cars are looking for things that are sitting out and can be taken in seconds. Unlikely anyone will readily have the tools with them and want to spend that kind of time to steal a box that they have no idea what's in it. If they're that sophisticated, they'll just steal the Jeep and take to to the chop shop.
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I can take mine off with an impact wrench but I have a 2010 with the old interior/seats. Not sure about 2012+.
Could be a 2dr/4dr thing as well if the seats sit farther back on the track. Or maybe....like an idiot...I didn't think to use my impact gun and try it.
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I was thinking there is an option bolt that goes through the floor but I could be mistaken.

Tuffy usually has this extra security option on most of their products.
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I was thinking there is an option bolt that goes through the floor but I could be mistaken.

Tuffy usually has this extra security option on most of their products.
Yes, that option is there on the Tuffy for sure...
I didn't use it as I wasn't about to drill a hole in the floor of my brand new Jeep.
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I was thinking there is an option bolt that goes through the floor but I could be mistaken.

Tuffy usually has this extra security option on most of their products.
There is. Have to drill through the floor. Instructions should be in there. I didn't do it yet but I plan to for piece of mind.
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Yes, that option is there on the Tuffy for sure...
I didn't use it as I wasn't about to drill a hole in the floor of my brand new Jeep.
Beat me to it!
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I got something right! 5 internet points for me.

I should know. I have 3 tuffy products in my rig and have plans to add more.
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Installed one in my 2013 Sahara JKU last weekend. Front two bolts are tough to get out. I am 6'5" 230 pounds and it took all of me to loosen them up. I didn't drill throughout the floor as I didn't feel it was necessary. Good luck.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:48 PM   #16
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Take 2 aleve. Then muscle pull city as u crank on breaker bar. I didn't need to loosen back bolts though on my 2013. Good luck and great product !!
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I don't know too much about welding, but id imagine you can get someone to weld the bolts somehow if you never plan on taking it back out. Even if you do that I am sure there is a way to break the welds to remove the seat
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I thought about putting a dab of jbweld on a couple sides of each bolt head. That way, they'd need a grinder to get it off. I figure it would only take 5 min with a grinder... But what thief would have a breaker bar AND a grinder?

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I think most thiefs are looking for a quick, easy, quiet way to snatch something. The tuffy box, even without modification done to it will not be quick and easy.
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I can tell you this: you're not getting into that box without key or combo or demolition equipment.

PO of my 07 tried to reset the combo before I bought it and forgot the new numbers.

I plan to drill out the lock and replace with a keyed one soon.
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Congrats. They make great stuff. I have the Tuffy JK Security Glove Box.
This thing is rock solid but the directions stink. But their tech support is A1.





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