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Old 01-12-2014, 09:17 AM   #1
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Is this supposed to be bent?

I'm no mechanic, so I need some help fellas. My 07JKU is lifted with 35s. After I went off roading I started experiencing bad wobble while accelerating up to 40mph. Where I would have to slow down all the way. Now if I'm driving normal around 35-40 if I hit a little bump it will start to wobble again. My teraflex stabilizer I had to take it off due to it leaking. So I'm currently without it. Here are some pics. I'm thinking this got damaged. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:30 AM   #2
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That's you tie rod. Your toe in is most likely way out of spec and def causing your issues.
Assuming your steering wheel is turned too?

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Old 01-12-2014, 10:39 AM   #3
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Look closely at photos 1, 2, 4 kjeeper10....

what I think I'm seeing is a bent shiny piston shaft of something other than the tie rod.....but I don't have my geezer goggle lenses cleaned yet this AM.

I'll have to crawl under mine to see what the dern thing is.....
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Look closely at photos 1, 2, 4 kjeeper10.... what I think I'm seeing is a bent shiny piston shaft of something other than the tie rod.....but I don't have my geezer goggle lenses cleaned yet this AM. I'll have to crawl under mine to see what the dern thing is.....
Yea... I did see that, but I thought he removed the SS. Given the wobble and contacting the SS, I assumed the tie rod was bent as well.
If his tie rod is bent the steering wheel would be crooked. This will be the tell tail
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:38 AM   #5
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The steering wheel is straight for sure. I went off roading through very thick ice, which I shouldn't have. I'm thinking I may have damaged it. There is not steering stabilizer on at all though. maybe if I put on a new tie rod and a new SS it will fix the issue????
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Thanks again guys
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Do you have the mechanical ability to check toe In yourself, or a shop that can check alignment for you ? You still might have knocked out alignment. I would def go through and check all the Tre's, bolts and bushings for play. DW or shaking will cause harm to the front end.

Edit: the more I look at the pic, it looks to be bent pretty good. Your SS is raised so it's obvious you took a high hit. Def consider a new tie rod. If you want to go aftermarket, that's up to you.
My recommendation is the Synergy tie rod. Chrome-moly tubing, metal on metal joints that are grease-able and easy to adjust,
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:22 AM   #8
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Do you have the mechanical ability to check toe In yourself, or a shop that can check alignment for you ? You still might have knocked out alignment. I would def go through and check all the Tre's, bolts and bushings for play. DW or shaking will cause harm to the front end. Edit: the more I look at the pic, it looks to be bent pretty good. Your SS is raised so it's obvious you took a high hit. Def consider a new tie rod. If you want to go aftermarket, that's up to you. My recommendation is the Synergy tie rod. Chrome-moly tubing, metal on metal joints that are grease-able and easy to adjust,

Thanks a lot buddy! I'm going to buy an aftermarket dual steering stabilizer and get an alignment, hopefully that solves the issue. It looks as if the tie rod is fine. But maybe I will put a new one on anyway? are they easy to install?
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Thanks a lot buddy! I'm going to buy an aftermarket dual steering stabilizer and get an alignment, hopefully that solves the issue. It looks as if the tie rod is fine. But maybe I will put a new one on anyway? are they easy to install?
as i look at your pictures, i don't think your tie rod is fine...it looks like it has one hell of a bend in it, and some twist maybe...

if your tie rod is bent, you have not only reduced the distance between the tie rod ends, you have introduced some elasticity in the system...and i think that equals not good!

listen to kjeeper10...he knows this stuff inside and out...and he will correct me if i'm wrong...

i have come to understand that a dual steering stabilizer might be putting one more weak link down there to get damaged...i think i understand that a single high quality is better in the long run...
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:48 AM   #10
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The steering wheel is straight for sure. I went off roading through very thick ice, which I shouldn't have. I'm thinking I may have damaged it. There is not steering stabilizer on at all though. maybe if I put on a new tie rod and a new SS it will fix the issue????
...i am confused...that sure looks like a steering stabilizer...
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1) You DO NOT need, nor do you want, dual steering stabilizers. This is addressing a problem that doesn't exist and won't help you one little bit....not even an iota. A steering damper performs a similar job up front as shock absorbers do at ever corner of your vehicle and is not in place to constrain or locate the axle. Therefore, it's not part of the problem and is certainly not part of the solution.

2) Your steering stabilizer is bent in your picture. Get a new one and install it. This is very easy to do.

3) If you have wobble issues, then you need to determine what isn't doing its job of locating and constraining the axle housing and/or steering knuckles. This is very easy to do but requires a little logical thinking on your behalf and requires you to get in front of your Jeep and do a little detective work. If you are capable of this, please say so and we'll move on to the actual analysis step. Your alignment factors such as toe have a lot less to do with your problem than some seem to think. That is secondary to the cause of your problem.

4) You don't have to be a 'mechanic' to perform these tasks, nor does that title automatically entitle one to have the capacity to truly understand how this stuff functions. In other words, never have I encountered an ASE certified mechanic who understands suspension, steering, and overall vehicle dynamics at the level of some non-ASE certified mechanics I know. Someone who can think for themselves, is reasonably logical, and can perform some deductive reasoning can do all of this themselves, including the 'alignment.'
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:17 PM   #12
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1) You DO NOT need, nor do you want, dual steering stabilizers. This is addressing a problem that doesn't exist and won't help you one little bit....not even an iota. A steering damper performs a similar job up front as shock absorbers do at ever corner of your vehicle and is not in place to constrain or locate the axle. Therefore, it's not part of the problem and is certainly not part of the solution. 2) Your steering stabilizer is bent in your picture. Get a new one and install it. This is very easy to do. 3) If you have wobble issues, then you need to determine what isn't doing its job of locating and constraining the axle housing and/or steering knuckles. This is very easy to do but requires a little logical thinking on your behalf and requires you to get in front of your Jeep and do a little detective work. If you are capable of this, please say so and we'll move on to the actual analysis step. Your alignment factors such as toe have a lot less to do with your problem than some seem to think. That is secondary to the cause of your problem. 4) You don't have to be a 'mechanic' to perform these tasks, nor does that title automatically entitle one to have the capacity to truly understand how this stuff functions. In other words, never have I encountered an ASE certified mechanic who understands suspension, steering, and overall vehicle dynamics at the level of some non-ASE certified mechanics I know. Someone who can think for themselves, is reasonably logical, and can perform some deductive reasoning can do all of this themselves, including the 'alignment.'
- yes I am capable. First things first, change the steering stabilizer, correct?
- it doesn't look that complicated under there, I'm only unfamiliar with main components on my jeep. brakes, rotors, calipers and spark plugs are all things I am capable of. I just never messed with the other stuff. Thank you for your time and help
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I too recently was pushing 4" chunks of ice spanning the width of the jeep stacked to the top of the wheels while trying to break trail for our crew out of a frozen creek (see avatar). I'm confident my tie rod is bent as well and plan on ordering one tonight, Synergy in fact! Steering wheel required a 15deg left hold after to go straight down the road!

I'd check out your toe. You can do it reasonably well with a tape measure, and there's some great write-ups if you google them. If it's bent, replace it. It's even more important than the stabilizer. Excessive toe in will wear your tires faster, the bent rod will wear your ball joints faster, you'll potentially get death wobble, and can wear out your entire front end faster.

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I do agree with what's all been said. Start with what you know is wrong. That's where I was going. You hit your tie rod/SS and then started having issues.... Correct ? Check alignment and install new tie rod if needed.
Well crap ... It still shakes
You have a 07, ball joints. Have they been replaced ? Stock JK ball joints are garbage.
I've actually seen trashed ball joints show out of spec camber on a alignment rack. (Including me)

Then continue to do a 100% inspection following PlanMan's sticky on DW/wobbles.
The track bar, bushings, loose bolts, oval hole. Any of these are the biggest contributor to DW.

Yes ... A dual SS is def not needed. The last thing you want to do is MASK the issue. What happens is DW or the shaking returns and the shocks are ruined.
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:49 PM   #15
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Thanks for all of your help guys! Check out the stick stabilizer. And then a picture of a new one!
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:17 PM   #16
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Meant to say steering stabilizer! one to many beers during this installation
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Lol nice !!
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:36 AM   #18
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It was pretty bent! How's it drive now?
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:49 AM   #19
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It was pretty bent! How's it drive now?
It's hasn't given me the wobble yet and doesn't feel like it will. The wheel Shakes a little but at 55mph but I think it's my tires, I'm going to need new ones soon. Also I could use an alignment.

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