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Old 02-03-2014, 06:46 PM   #1
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Complete newbie to the Jeep world and just got my 2014 JKU. I'm looking at lifts and want to go 2.5". Unfortunately I'll do very little offroading and it's my daily driver. I'm going to be getting 17" rims, but don't know if I'll go 33 or 35s (most likely 33s so I don't destroy my gas mileage).

What is the benefit of going with the AEV 2.5" kit for $1000 vs going with the TF 2.5" BudgetBoost for $500? I think since I won't do much offloading, the BB would be fine, however if it will make it ride and drive like a log wagon I'll gladly spring for the AEV.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm been searching for all day and I think I'm more confused than I was.

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Old 02-03-2014, 07:24 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum This is my experience only. I have a 2DR with AEV 2.5 and 33.9 on stock rubicon wheels. The tires are narrow so the stock wheels will work. I have it fully loaded with front/rear bumpers and winch in front. The AEV on the highway is very stable and tight. On the trails its handles good. No crazy rock crawling or anything. But for medium trails it works out very nice.

Depending on what gears/ratio you have you might not want to go bigger than 35' tires.

The AEV is a complete kit plus bracket and the TF is not completehttp://www.quadratec.com/products/16190_2501_07.htm

I'm not sure which TF you were thinking of.

It also depends on what you want to to with the jeep ? If you have a 1k budge for a lift excluding install you have alot of options.

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Old 02-03-2014, 07:31 PM   #3
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It honestly sounds like you should save some money and just get a rough country kit if you are not planing on wheelin. You will get a better highway ride with their softer springs. I just did a teraflex kit and love it. I was in the same boat your in and trust me one you pic a kit and buy it you will feel better. My buddy just got a RC kit and I must say it is much smoother on the road than my TF kit but he won't be able to add extra weight later on like I can.


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if you're thinking 33s maybe a simple leveling kit will suffice. 33s will fit in a JK win no lift if the wheels are properly back spaced. a leveling kit might give you just the look you're after.
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:38 PM   #5
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No such thing as a dumb question. I wondered the same thing when I lifted my '13. I read a ton of threads, looked at a gazillion web sites, and even went to a local 4X4 specialty shop to get their input. What I found was that no one agrees. The only people that said they didn't like a particular lift were the ones who had bought it, and then spent the extra money to replace it with something they liked more. One person will say that a particular lift / shock combo gives a much improved ride over stock. The next will have the same combo and complain about how harsh it is and the shop suggested a lift that, after a little research, appeared to be of very low quality, though they indicated it was a premium setup. For what it is worth, I ended up with a RockKrawler 2.5" Max Travel. I'm not intimately familiar with either kit you are looking at, but a budget boost makes no corrections for the increased suspension height, where a spring lift with control arms, track bar bracket, etc. does compensate. Based on the prices you quoted, I'm doubting either kit you are looking at is this complete, but they are both from companies with good reputations.

I've got a buddy that put a budget boost on his JK and warned me to get a dual steering stabilizer when I lifted mine. I've driven mine since the lift without a stabilizer with no issue. It's my opinion that he needs the heavy duty dual stabilizer because his suspension geometry is out of whack due to his lift.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and most of them stink, but I'll share mine anyway. My weekend warrior spends more time on the street than in the dirt or on the rocks, but I went with a more complete kit with the belief that by doing so, I improved / maintained my street manners as well as increased my off-road ability. Suspension is a way too important component / system to take the cheap route on.
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:14 PM   #6
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Thanks for all of the help. The AEV kit I'm looking at is this one: American Expedition Vehicles - Brute Kit, V8 HEMI, Aftermarket Jeep Conversions, Products, Wheels, Accessories and Highline Kits for Jeeps (TJ, JK, WK, XK). and the BudgetBoost is this one: TeraFlex JK Wrangler 2.5 inch Performance Budget Boost W/Shocks . I've looked at the leveling kits, but I haven't gotten a true consensus on if they actually lift the Jeep or just raise the front. I don't want to run into trouble if I put 33s on.

I'm coming from the land of sports cars, so lift kits are not my forte. Like I said, I'd rather save the money for something else if the BB kit will do what I want, but I've already spent $40k on the Jeep, so if the ride is going to suffer significantly, I'll spent the $500 extra for the AEV. This is the look I'm going for (which is AEV actually)...the stock "soccer mom" look isn't quite working for me. I have a 3.73 auto and I'm looking at 17x9x4.5BS Fuels or KMCs with Duratrac 285-70-17 at the moment.


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Old 02-03-2014, 08:17 PM   #7
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This is not a dumb question. Actually more new owners that don't understand the difference should ask it.

The BB will affect handling slightly but not ride, so don't worry about that. The AEV will improve ride and handling on and off road.

If you want to save money just go with the TF kit.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:11 AM   #8
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Just did the AEV 2.5 lift on my Rubi. I also did the Geo relo brackets with this kit so everything lines back up closer to the stock angles. I am running 35's. On the road with tires at 35 the ride was bit stiff and bouncy. Was a bit darty too liking to follow every grove in the road. Aired the tires down to 30 PSI and it rides like a caddy now. Very impressed. Ride and handling are now better than stock. Toyo AT II's make way less noise then the stock BFG MT's. Off road she was a beast. Not doing any extreme rock crawling so this will handle about anything I will put it up too. It is used in town as a DD so wanted to get 35's under the rig but keep it low and not hurt the in town ride. Mission accomplished in my opinion. Good luck.
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Complete newbie to the Jeep world and just got my 2014 JKU. I'm looking at lifts and want to go 2.5". Unfortunately I'll do very little offroading and it's my daily driver. I'm going to be getting 17" rims, but don't know if I'll go 33 or 35s (most likely 33s so I don't destroy my gas mileage).

What is the benefit of going with the AEV 2.5" kit for $1000 vs going with the TF 2.5" BudgetBoost for $500? I think since I won't do much offloading, the BB would be fine, however if it will make it ride and drive like a log wagon I'll gladly spring for the AEV.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm been searching for all day and I think I'm more confused than I was.
Not a dumb question at all! Congrats on the new Jeep. Post some pictures when you can! If you're not going to do any wheeling, I would go with the 33's and a small leveling kit. You can fit 33's under your Jeep with a simple Teraflex Leveling Kit that will give you 2" lift blocks up front and 1" in the rear to level the Jeep and give you a bit of lift all the way around.

If you like a taller lift, you can go with the Teraflex 2.5 Inch Budget Boost Kit you mentioned. That will serve a similar purpose but give you more lift. Let me know what questions you have or if I can send you a quote!

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Not a dumb question at all! Congrats on the new Jeep. Post some pictures when you can! If you're not going to do any wheeling, I would go with the 33's and a small leveling kit. You can fit 33's under your Jeep with a simple Teraflex Leveling Kit that will give you 2" lift blocks up front and 1" in the rear to level the Jeep and give you a bit of lift all the way around.

If you like a taller lift, you can go with the Teraflex 2.5 Inch Budget Boost Kit you mentioned. That will serve a similar purpose but give you more lift. Let me know what questions you have or if I can send you a quote!

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Old 02-05-2014, 09:27 AM   #11
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Ok, so it looks like I'm going to bite the bullet and buy new rims and tires. I've got 17x9x4.5bs rims on the way but I can't decide between 285 or 315 Duratracs. I've got a 3.73 auto, but I don't want it to be a dog since it is my daily driver. I've read the new 3.6 is ok with 315s though with a 3.73?

I'm looking at a 2.5" Teraflex lift (either Budget Boost or Coil Lift - pros/cons?) and I know the 315s will look better. What's all required if I switch to the 315s instead of the 285s other than the procal?
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Ok, so it looks like I'm going to bite the bullet and buy new rims and tires. I've got 17x9x4.5bs rims on the way but I can't decide between 285 or 315 Duratracs. I've got a 3.73 auto, but I don't want it to be a dog since it is my daily driver. I've read the new 3.6 is ok with 315s though with a 3.73?

I'm looking at a 2.5" Teraflex lift (either Budget Boost or Coil Lift - pros/cons?) and I know the 315s will look better. What's all required if I switch to the 315s instead of the 285s other than the procal?
Couple Things to consider:
Are you going to add bumpers and other weight later?
If yes get a spring lift. I put 285/70r17 on my Auto 13 JKU and liked the look, but as soon as I added a front bumper and winch the front sagged about an inch. I was going to do a leveling kit, but from my research an actual lift was better for the weight.

Do you care if your tires stick out about 2" from your flares?

I specifically picked out wheels and tires that would stay just even with my flares because the side of your jeep will get pelted with crap and in NJ they will give you tickets for your tread sticking past your flare. I know many people get away with it, but I don't want to venture down that road.

Do you care about MPG?
285/70r17 will be better on gas than 315/70r17.



I have the AEV 2.5" lift it fit my bill nice. I also got the rancho geometry correction brackets which I would highly recommend with whatever kit you get.

If I were to do it again, I would have waited to get tires and got 285/75r17 (34s) instead of the 285/70r17 as they do fit the 2.5" lift much better.
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I forgot to add if you are going for looks and not offroading and have no need for heavy bumpers and winch, Go with 285/70R17 and a Spring Leveling kit. It will level out your Jeep give you a nice ride and a more aggressive NON Soccer mom look.

I have some pics of a JKU with 285/70r17 Duratracs with stock suspension, Then with heavy bumper, and finally with lift if you want.
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I forgot to add if you are going for looks and not offroading and have no need for heavy bumpers and winch, Go with 285/70R17 and a Spring Leveling kit. It will level out your Jeep give you a nice ride and a more aggressive NON Soccer mom look.

I have some pics of a JKU with 285/70r17 Duratracs with stock suspension, Then with heavy bumper, and finally with lift if you want.

Those would be great! I like the advantages of the 285s as far as gas mileage and only needing a leveling kit, but I just don't want to get them and wish I had spent the extra to get the bigger tires when the price difference is minimal at that point. What offset wheels did you get?
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Those would be great! I like the advantages of the 285s as far as gas mileage and only needing a leveling kit, but I just don't want to get them and wish I had spent the extra to get the bigger tires when the price difference is minimal at that point. What offset wheels did you get?
I got 5.2 on 8.5 wide wheels.

The First one is stock suspension with 285/70r17 duratracs
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Well I may have more time to decide on a lift now. The wheels I want are backordered until March.
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Ok I ended up purchasing a set of 35" tires (err 34") and 4.5BS rims. I'm going to get the TF 2.5 BB, however do I get the one with the shocks or the one with just the extensions? I will be 90% on road unfortunately, but I don't know how ride will suffer with just extensions. Also, do I need the exhaust extensions (or anything else? spacers?) with either kit?
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Ok I ended up purchasing a set of 35" tires (err 34") and 4.5BS rims. I'm going to get the TF 2.5 BB, however do I get the one with the shocks or the one with just the extensions? I will be 90% on road unfortunately, but I don't know how ride will suffer with just extensions. Also, do I need the exhaust extensions (or anything else? spacers?) with either kit?
A good option is rubicon shocks using the extensions. These are a good upgrade over the stock black shocks.
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X2 on the Rubi shocks. They are not as good as good aftermarket shocks but they are better than the stock Sport shocks.

When you install the coil spacers you are effectively raising the height of the coil perch on the axle. Geometry is affected but not the the not ride characteristics of the springs. The same thing holds true for the shocks. The shocks raise the mount of the shock to compensate for raising the perch. Using taller/stiffer coils to raise the Jeep and shock extensions has more of an impact but it is still mild.

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